Reference Letters: Not provided by company HR

[slashmaybe]

Hi there,

I'm in the process of getting Reference Letters from all my previous companies. The HR of one previous company in which I have 4 yrs. 5 months experience - just clearly told me that they do not provide Reference Letters. She said that I would have to get the Reference Letters through my ex-managers instead.

Right now, it does seem like I can make this happen - fortunately, my ex-managers are still working in the same/more senior positions and they are ready to help. So these Reference Letters I get from my Managers should be enough, correct? The fact that they are not coming through HR, but from the Managers should be ok?

Also, a couple of questions more: The company name I had provided in my EE profile (pre-ITA) is slightly different from the company name now - there is an extra word in the name because it has been acquired by another company. In this case, can I get my HR to explain why the mismatch - explaining the merger etc.?

The Employee ID I had while in the company has also changed - does that require an explanation email by HR too?

Thanks for your help

 

[zagcollins]

Hi there,

I'm in the process of getting Reference Letters from all my previous companies. The HR of one previous company in which I have 4 yrs. 5 months experience - just clearly told me that they do not provide Reference Letters. She said that I would have to get the Reference Letters through my ex-managers instead.

Right now, it does seem like I can make this happen - fortunately, my ex-managers are still working in the same/more senior positions and they are ready to help. So these Reference Letters I get from my Managers should be enough, correct? The fact that they are not coming through HR, but from the Managers should be ok?

Also, a couple of questions more: The company name I had provided in my EE profile (pre-ITA) is slightly different from the company name now - there is an extra word in the name because it has been acquired by another company. In this case, can I get my HR to explain why the mismatch - explaining the merger etc.?

The Employee ID I had while in the company has also changed - does that require an explanation email by HR too?

Thanks for your help

1. Letters from your manager and a notarized letter confirming they are true in the eyes of the law.
2. Company name and employee ID mismatch - provide all documents and explain this in the LoE.

 

[slashmaybe]

1. Letters from your manager and a notarized letter confirming they are true in the eyes of the law.
2. Company name and employee ID mismatch - provide all documents and explain this in the LoE.

Thanks for the reply.

1. Ok so the letters from my ex-managers - and to be clear: a letter (that I write?) notarized by a trusted body. Now, here's another thing - these are companies I worked for in the US 4 years back. I'm currently in India. So, can I make use of online notary services like: https://www.notarize.com/ ? I do not want to burden my ex-managers beyond what's strictly necessary.

2. Are you saying the explanation for the company name mismatch and company ID can come from me (and not the HR necessarily)?

 

[dotslash227]

Hi there,

I'm in the process of getting Reference Letters from all my previous companies. The HR of one previous company in which I have 4 yrs. 5 months experience - just clearly told me that they do not provide Reference Letters. She said that I would have to get the Reference Letters through my ex-managers instead.

Right now, it does seem like I can make this happen - fortunately, my ex-managers are still working in the same/more senior positions and they are ready to help. So these Reference Letters I get from my Managers should be enough, correct? The fact that they are not coming through HR, but from the Managers should be ok?

Also, a couple of questions more: The company name I had provided in my EE profile (pre-ITA) is slightly different from the company name now - there is an extra word in the name because it has been acquired by another company. In this case, can I get my HR to explain why the mismatch - explaining the merger etc.?

The Employee ID I had while in the company has also changed - does that require an explanation email by HR too?

Thanks for your help

Reference letter from your manager should be notarised and should contain your job title and duties. Add your offer letter/relieving/termination letter, and pay stubs too along with it.

You can mention that in your LOE that the companies name has changed from XYZ to XYAZ as it was acquired by some other company. If this can be mentioned by the manager who wrote your reference letter, great!

 

[zagcollins]

Thanks for the reply.

1. Ok so the letters from my ex-managers - and to be clear: a letter (that I write?) notarized by a trusted body. Now, here's another thing - these are companies I worked for in the US 4 years back. I'm currently in India. So, can I make use of online notary services like: https://www.notarize.com/ ? I do not want to burden my ex-managers beyond what's strictly necessary.

2. Are you saying the explanation for the company name mismatch and company ID can come from me (and not the HR necessarily)?

1. Not sure, but I don't see why not.
2. This is a logic-centric question. Think of it as this - The burden of proof lies on you. The more reliable and detailed your information or source of information, lesser the doubt.

 

[slashmaybe]

Ok thanks guys!

 

[asadalirahim]

Hi Guys,

Here is my case. I have a total work experience of 7+ years and I have shown only 4+ while filling out the ee profile and that is all on one single NoC.

My first job had a different NoC and since the declared 4+ years of work experience fetched me the maximum points, I skipped it. However I plan to mention it in the personal history section now post ITA.

Getting a reference letter from this organisation is getting difficult as the people I worked with have all moved out and the HR won't get the letter issued. What is the workaround. Do I mandatorily need to get the reference letter from this organisation even though I haven't declared it in the ee profile to fetch CRS points ? Please guide me. Thanks.

 

[slashmaybe]

I don't think it's necessary to get a Reference Letter from organizations that you didn't mention in your EE profile - but I will wait for the experts to confirm.

 

[vsfedotov]

I have a slightly similar question,
The company I claimed for points provided me with experience letter according to the Canadian format (very good relationship with my former manager helped a lot), but since it's on the official letterhead and with the company's seal, there's an issue: the company's legal name is different from its client-facing name (logo, the name on their website, marketing materials, the name on my LinkedIn page and CV). The legal name is what appears on contracts and letterhead, but nowhere else. The legal name isn't searchable via google in English, etc. It's a common practice in Russia

Should I provide the letter of explanation, as if so, what information should I include there?

 

[mapleleaf987]

Hi Guys,

Here is my case. I have a total work experience of 7+ years and I have shown only 4+ while filling out the ee profile and that is all on one single NoC.

My first job had a different NoC and since the declared 4+ years of work experience fetched me the maximum points, I skipped it. However I plan to mention it in the personal history section now post ITA.

Getting a reference letter from this organisation is getting difficult as the people I worked with have all moved out and the HR won't get the letter issued. What is the workaround. Do I mandatorily need to get the reference letter from this organisation even though I haven't declared it in the ee profile to fetch CRS points ? Please guide me. Thanks.

you dont need to provide documents for the work exp you are not claiming any points for.

 

[mapleleaf987]

I have a slightly similar question,
The company I claimed for points provided me with experience letter according to the Canadian format (very good relationship with my former manager helped a lot), but since it's on the official letterhead and with the company's seal, there's an issue: the company's legal name is different from its client-facing name (logo, the name on their website, marketing materials, the name on my LinkedIn page and CV). The legal name is what appears on contracts and letterhead, but nowhere else. The legal name isn't searchable via google in English, etc. It's a common practice in Russia

Should I provide the letter of explanation, as if so, what information should I include there?

LOE is ok, but even better is an affidavit stating both the names belong to the same company

 

[vsfedotov]

LOE is ok, but even better is an affidavit stating both the names belong to the same company

Thanks! Should the affidavit be notarized, or being signed by the same manager on the same company's letterhead is enough?