3rd TRV Rejection (Despite Valid US Visa among others)

[commoner]

Good points but I think what I'm looking for is some sense to all the chaos, some sort of consistency or pattern. I mean, if houses and cars are not enough to convince them, then what does? How many Filipinos own houses and/or cars? Does it mean none of them can go to Canada anymore? Just look at the case of my sister where she is inferior in all aspects except the petition part. It didn't stop them from giving her a visa. We practically have the same travel history but for me it was one of the factors for refusal. I have 2 reasons to visit but she only has one. Same, purpose of visit was one of the reasons. She doesn't have any ties and practically no reason to come back (she's basically minimum wage).

I have no plans to move to Canada. I love it but I cannot live there. Plus I'll earn a lot less there than what I'm earning now. It's been almost 10 years and I really wanna go back for vacation because I like it more than USA. I love the diversity of the food there. Plus it will be with friends AND family. It's really 2 birds with 1 stone and these kinds of opportunity will not happen again.

If I really wanted to migrate illegally, I would have done so in 2011 before I was tried to be petitioned. If the 2015 trip was just an excuse to enter and then overstay in Canada, we wouldn't have spent all that money to tour USA for 2 weeks. My point is, we still pushed through with what we had. USA first then canada for them but home for me. What more semblance of good will do they want to see? I'm trying to show good faith and good will but I cannot show them through documents...

Oh and lastly, they checked "family ties in canada and your home country" back in 2015 but they didn't check it now even if nothing changed. Purpose of visit was also not checked in 2015 even if it was a simple family visit only. Same with travel history. Back in 2015, I had a US visa but was unused. Now I have Japan and Korean visas plus around 12 additional visits to Hong KOng (since 2015) for pleasure/business. Despite all these, they still checked Travel History. WHY.....

 

[commoner]

I’ll comment on your statement saying buying a house and car means you do not plan to stay in Canada illegally. Just to provide a better understanding of how the VO’s mind works. I am in no way insinuating you plan to stay illegally, please remember that.

Okay, so I’ve been here since 2017 only so my experience may be a bit limited BUT out of ALL the Filipinos I have met here, 100% bought multiple houses and cars in the Philippines. My spouse and I have 3 properties and 5 vehicles that we left in the Philippines. The visa officer would know about this culture which is why buying a house and car will not help your application. They know that most Filipinos use Canada to earn money and then retire in the Philippines which is perfectly legal but just shows how having property there has no bearing.

Good luck on your next attempt.

From the people I know and stories I heard, these are the profiles of Filipinos who migrated to Canada legally. They are OK here but want something better. Poeple with these kinds of social standings rarely risk being blacklisted and deported because they have the money to travel around the world if they wanted to. They apply legally.

I'm not that rich but I'm not poor. I'm not poor or desperate enough to risk my records being tainted. I know some people who used various reasons just to enter Canada and they are not anywhere close to my financial standing but it's OK for them and they are willing to take the risk. For me, I am earning enough already so I have no reasons to stay there illegally.

What I'm saying is, they should mix and match the profiles. Why will someone who is evidently fond of traveling allow himself to be locked in Canada for an extended period of time? And risk not being able to go back? Based on travel history, I was hoping they can see this. I don't want to miss out on other countries...

 

[commoner]

I'm so desperate I want to tell them to open my Instagram feed and see for themselves if I will be the kind of person who will do something illegal. Hahahahaha. They will see how fun my work is.

 

[jddd]

From the people I know and stories I heard, these are the profiles of Filipinos who migrated to Canada legally. They are OK here but want something better. Poeple with these kinds of social standings rarely risk being blacklisted and deported because they have the money to travel around the world if they wanted to. They apply legally.

I'm not that rich but I'm not poor. I'm not poor or desperate enough to risk my records being tainted. I know some people who used various reasons just to enter Canada and they are not anywhere close to my financial standing but it's OK for them and they are willing to take the risk. For me, I am earning enough already so I have no reasons to stay there illegally.

What I'm saying is, they should mix and match the profiles. Why will someone who is evidently fond of traveling allow himself to be locked in Canada for an extended period of time? And risk not being able to go back? Based on travel history, I was hoping they can see this. I don't want to miss out on other countries...

My only point is that it is a Filipino culture to maintain a home and vehicles in the Philippines. Legally immigrated or not, it is one of the things we are known for.

As you’ve been advised, the failed attempt to be sponsored to Canada is working against you. Furthermore, there is always another side to every story. The VO is not here to explain theirs. GCMS notes should be able to help you find out some of what the VO is thinking.

 

[nmatter]

I'm so desperate I want to tell them to open my Instagram feed and see for themselves if I will be the kind of person who will do something illegal. Hahahahaha. They will see how fun my work is.

Your long justification clearly shows how desperately you want to visit Canada (and as said earlier this is red flag)

As senior member says screw Canada and visit some other place (if your friends and family really want than they can visit you in USA as well)

Above is just my point (no offense at all )

 

[gbeee]

a bit away from the original post but after refusal when re applying is it a good idea to mention the previous refusal and the cited reason in the cover letter of the new application?

 

[ankur_bisht]

a bit away from the original post but after refusal when re applying is it a good idea to mention the previous refusal and the cited reason in the cover letter of the new application?

Yes. If you dont declare, you can face a 5 yr ban.

 

[commoner]

Each person has a unique number. I can only guess what kind of records they keep for each applicant.

 

[bellaluna]

Each person has a unique number. I can only guess what kind of records they keep for each applicant.

Hey, you don't have to guess, they're made available publicly, like I said in my previous post here.

Some applicants have had success after ordering the case notes and addressing them point by point.

On paper, I would say you would have the profile of someone who would be approved, but this is also not the first time I've heard of someone with a similar profile get rejected.

 

[commoner]

Update:

My aunt sought the help of their MP. The MP's office contacted the CIC on our behalf and found out that the petition was the real source of the rejections. They gave us a Q&A form for us to answer and also took a look at all the supporting documents I originally submitted.

I guess they felt my case was strong and reasonable so they asked us to construct an appeal letter highlighting the circumstances of the original petition, why I'm no longer interested and why I will come back. My aunt also wrote a letter.

The MP's office filed the appeal on my behalf and after 14 days, I got my passport request letter.

All I can say is, FINALLY. (Hats off to Canadian politics where politicians really work for the constituents...unlike here)

 

[galaxys0]

Update:

My aunt sought the help of their MP. The MP's office contacted the CIC on our behalf and found out that the petition was the real source of the rejections. They gave us a Q&A form for us to answer and also took a look at all the supporting documents I originally submitted.

I guess they felt my case was strong and reasonable so they asked us to construct an appeal letter highlighting the circumstances of the original petition, why I'm no longer interested and why I will come back. My aunt also wrote a letter.

The MP's office filed the appeal on my behalf and after 14 days, I got my passport request letter.

All I can say is, FINALLY. (Hats off to Canadian politics where politicians really work for the constituents...unlike here)

Good job.

Honestly though, it was quite apparent that you were getting rejected because your tried to immigrate there. No amount of ties to your country would have overcome that until you addressed the immigration try.

Better late than never though, I guess.

 

[bellaluna]

Update:

My aunt sought the help of their MP. The MP's office contacted the CIC on our behalf and found out that the petition was the real source of the rejections. They gave us a Q&A form for us to answer and also took a look at all the supporting documents I originally submitted.

I guess they felt my case was strong and reasonable so they asked us to construct an appeal letter highlighting the circumstances of the original petition, why I'm no longer interested and why I will come back. My aunt also wrote a letter.

The MP's office filed the appeal on my behalf and after 14 days, I got my passport request letter.

All I can say is, FINALLY. (Hats off to Canadian politics where politicians really work for the constituents...unlike here)

Good to hear.

I personally wouldn't recommend MP letters, but I'm glad it worked out for you. I think what helped you was that you really do have a strong profile. You were even given a TRV before! Maybe the original visa officer was having a bad day.

Now go have a shawarma wrap when you get here because the ones in the Philippines are just wrong.

 

[Cjay23]

LOL.solid advice on the shawarma

Good to hear.

I personally wouldn't recommend MP letters, but I'm glad it worked out for you. I think what helped you was that you really do have a strong profile. You were even given a TRV before! Maybe the original visa officer was having a bad day.

Now go have a shawarma wraps when you get here because the ones in the Philippines are just wrong.

 

[Cjay23]

Update:

My aunt sought the help of their MP. The MP's office contacted the CIC on our behalf and found out that the petition was the real source of the rejections. They gave us a Q&A form for us to answer and also took a look at all the supporting documents I originally submitted.

I guess they felt my case was strong and reasonable so they asked us to construct an appeal letter highlighting the circumstances of the original petition, why I'm no longer interested and why I will come back. My aunt also wrote a letter.

The MP's office filed the appeal on my behalf and after 14 days, I got my passport request letter.

All I can say is, FINALLY. (Hats off to Canadian politics where politicians really work for the constituents...unlike here)

Congratulations.
Your persistence paid off. If I were in your shoes, i would have said to hell with Canada no longer interested

 

[commoner]

Food is basically the reason why I miss Canada so much. There's very very few places in the world (save maybe New York) where you can get authentic versions of practically all major cuisines in the world. I don't have to go around the world just to taste their food.

And yes I will not forget the taste of the shawarma in a random joint in Montreal.

The tourist spots are only secondary to me, I'm going there for the food and for the laidback lifestyle.

There's a time for other countries. For now, I just want to go back!