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Citizenship Application pre-submission questions

planningtogo

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Hi,

I am preparing my documents for my application as well and I just have some questions.

1. Question 11 in Application for Canadian citizenship form. I am working at the same time studying. Is it advisable to add the information like this?:

FROM TO
2017-01 Present Working
2018-10 2019-06 Studying

or is there another way to indicate it?

2. For the Police certificates, I finished my required number of years without leaving Canada and applied for PR. After I got my PR I went home for a month and came back. I DO NOT NEED TO PROVIDE POLICE CERTIFICATE, correct?

3. For the English requirement, I finished a degree in my home country and I studied English 11 and 12 here (I asked a letter from my Adult school principal). Will that suffice or I need to take the English test?

4. I came here July 14, 2014 but on the online calculator it shows 2014-07-02 to 2019-07-02 for the eligibility period. Will that matter?

I appreciate your help on this :)

Thanks!
 

spyfy

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Hi,

I am preparing my documents for my application as well and I just have some questions.

1. Question 11 in Application for Canadian citizenship form. I am working at the same time studying. Is it advisable to add the information like this?:

FROM TO
2017-01 Present Working
2018-10 2019-06 Studying

or is there another way to indicate it?

2. For the Police certificates, I finished my required number of years without leaving Canada and applied for PR. After I got my PR I went home for a month and came back. I DO NOT NEED TO PROVIDE POLICE CERTIFICATE, correct?

3. For the English requirement, I finished a degree in my home country and I studied English 11 and 12 here (I asked a letter from my Adult school principal). Will that suffice or I need to take the English test?

4. I came here July 14, 2014 but on the online calculator it shows 2014-07-02 to 2019-07-02 for the eligibility period. Will that matter?

I appreciate your help on this :)

Thanks!
1. obviously one can both work and study at the same time. Overlap is totally fine. Only gaps are a problem. In other words: You can have a month in which you did 10 things at the same time, just make sure that you have no month where you didn't do anything.

2. You are not giving enough details to answer this. When did you become PR and so on. I am copy pasting the text from the official guide below. Make sure you read it in full. If after reading it in full you still have a question, explain which part is unclear.

3. Again you are not providing essential details. Was the degree in your home country in English? Note: The whole program must have been conducted in English and you need proof that it was. If you say "I studied English 11 and 12 here", do you mean that you took a single course in English? Only if you attended a fully English secondary school or college program in Canada does it count. To clarify: you must have taken more than just English lessons. You must have taken ALL your courses (Bio, History, Music, whatever you studied) in English.

4. The eligibility period is the past five years. the date you arrived is irrelevant.

Before filling out and submitting your application, make sure that you read the entirety of the application guide
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0002-application-canadian-citizenship-under-subsection-5-1-adults-18-years-older.html

Yes it is long, but it seems you haven't done so so far, so make sure you check every detail.

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Text regarding police certificates:
  1. In the past four (4) years, if you spent 183 days or more in a row (since the age of 18) in a country (other than Canada), you must provide a police certificate from each country. Indicate in the chart the name of each country and provide a police certificate. If you can’t get a police certificate, tell us why. The following examples may help you answer this question.

    Example 1
    You lived in France for one year (365 days) before you became a permanent resident 3 years ago. You did not travel to France after you became a permanent resident. You would answer “Yes” to the question and you would need to provide a police certificate from France if you did not provide one with your immigration application. If you provided a police certificate from France with your immigration application, tell us this in the box provided at Question 10b.
    Example 2
    You became a permanent resident three years and nine months ago. In the past 4 years, you lived in Brazil for 3 months (90 days) before you became a permanent resident and you returned to Brazil to visit family for 4 months (120 days) after you became a permanent resident. You would answer “No” to the question and you would not need to provide a police certificate from Brazil because you did not spend 183 days or more in a row in Brazil.
    Example 3
    In the past 4 years, you took 10 trips to the United States of America (USA). Each trip lasted 3 weeks, for a total of 210 days. You would answer “No” to the question and you would not need to provide a police certificate from the USA because you did not spend 183 days or more in a row in the USA.
    Example 4
    In the past 4 years, you travelled to Singapore four times for work. The first trip was for 30 days; the second trip was for 200 days; the third trip was for 60 days; and the fourth trip was for 120 days. While in Singapore, you took a trip to Malaysia (10 days) and Thailand (10 days). You would answer “Yes” to the question and you would need to provide a police certificate from Singapore because your second trip was more than 183 days in a row. You would not need to provide police certificates from Malaysia or Thailand.
    Example 5
    In the past 4 years, you took one (1) trip to Europe where you visited Portugal (5 days), Spain (7 days), France (10 days), Belgium (3 days), Netherlands (3 days), Germany (21 days), Switzerland (7 days) and Italy (21 days). You took a second trip to Europe where you visited Ireland (14 days), Scotland (14 days) and England (21 days). You went to Germany for a business trip that lasted 60 days. The total time you were outside of Canada was 186 days but you were not in a single country for 183 days or more in a row. You would answer “No” to the question and you would not need to provide police certificates from any of the countries.
    Note: If you were in your country of origin immediately prior to becoming a permanent resident and landing in Canada and this time falls within this four year period, you are not required to provide a police certificate. Please indicate this in the explanation box.

    The police certificate must either have been issued:
    • after the last time you were in that country; or
    • no more than 6 months before the date you sign your citizenship application
    Visit, How to get a police certificate for specific and up-to-date information on how to obtain police certificates from any country.
 

nithin

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Jul 12, 2011
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Hi, citizenship application form item 14a) Have you held travel documents and/or passports during your 5 year period?
My doubt is whether UAE resident/employment visa is a travel document? What is travel documents other than passports?
Thanks
 

Seym

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Nov 6, 2017
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Hi, citizenship application form item 14a) Have you held travel documents and/or passports during your 5 year period?
My doubt is whether UAE resident/employment visa is a travel document? What is travel documents other than passports?
Thanks
That visa is probably equivalent to the work permit here in Canada, not a travel documents.
Most travel documents are passports, but there are others : Nexus Card, refugees travel documents, laissez-passer to a country...
You can check the travel document page on wikipedia.
In practice, there's a high chance you only list your passports there.
 

planningtogo

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Aug 1, 2011
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1. obviously one can both work and study at the same time. Overlap is totally fine. Only gaps are a problem. In other words: You can have a month in which you did 10 things at the same time, just make sure that you have no month where you didn't do anything.

2. You are not giving enough details to answer this. When did you become PR and so on. I am copy pasting the text from the official guide below. Make sure you read it in full. If after reading it in full you still have a question, explain which part is unclear.

3. Again you are not providing essential details. Was the degree in your home country in English? Note: The whole program must have been conducted in English and you need proof that it was. If you say "I studied English 11 and 12 here", do you mean that you took a single course in English? Only if you attended a fully English secondary school or college program in Canada does it count. To clarify: you must have taken more than just English lessons. You must have taken ALL your courses (Bio, History, Music, whatever you studied) in English.

4. The eligibility period is the past five years. the date you arrived is irrelevant.

Before filling out and submitting your application, make sure that you read the entirety of the application guide
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0002-application-canadian-citizenship-under-subsection-5-1-adults-18-years-older.html

Yes it is long, but it seems you haven't done so so far, so make sure you check every detail.

===
Text regarding police certificates:
  1. In the past four (4) years, if you spent 183 days or more in a row (since the age of 18) in a country (other than Canada), you must provide a police certificate from each country. Indicate in the chart the name of each country and provide a police certificate. If you can’t get a police certificate, tell us why. The following examples may help you answer this question.

    Example 1
    You lived in France for one year (365 days) before you became a permanent resident 3 years ago. You did not travel to France after you became a permanent resident. You would answer “Yes” to the question and you would need to provide a police certificate from France if you did not provide one with your immigration application. If you provided a police certificate from France with your immigration application, tell us this in the box provided at Question 10b.
    Example 2
    You became a permanent resident three years and nine months ago. In the past 4 years, you lived in Brazil for 3 months (90 days) before you became a permanent resident and you returned to Brazil to visit family for 4 months (120 days) after you became a permanent resident. You would answer “No” to the question and you would not need to provide a police certificate from Brazil because you did not spend 183 days or more in a row in Brazil.
    Example 3
    In the past 4 years, you took 10 trips to the United States of America (USA). Each trip lasted 3 weeks, for a total of 210 days. You would answer “No” to the question and you would not need to provide a police certificate from the USA because you did not spend 183 days or more in a row in the USA.
    Example 4
    In the past 4 years, you travelled to Singapore four times for work. The first trip was for 30 days; the second trip was for 200 days; the third trip was for 60 days; and the fourth trip was for 120 days. While in Singapore, you took a trip to Malaysia (10 days) and Thailand (10 days). You would answer “Yes” to the question and you would need to provide a police certificate from Singapore because your second trip was more than 183 days in a row. You would not need to provide police certificates from Malaysia or Thailand.
    Example 5
    In the past 4 years, you took one (1) trip to Europe where you visited Portugal (5 days), Spain (7 days), France (10 days), Belgium (3 days), Netherlands (3 days), Germany (21 days), Switzerland (7 days) and Italy (21 days). You took a second trip to Europe where you visited Ireland (14 days), Scotland (14 days) and England (21 days). You went to Germany for a business trip that lasted 60 days. The total time you were outside of Canada was 186 days but you were not in a single country for 183 days or more in a row. You would answer “No” to the question and you would not need to provide police certificates from any of the countries.
    Note: If you were in your country of origin immediately prior to becoming a permanent resident and landing in Canada and this time falls within this four year period, you are not required to provide a police certificate. Please indicate this in the explanation box.

    The police certificate must either have been issued:
    • after the last time you were in that country; or
    • no more than 6 months before the date you sign your citizenship application
    Visit, How to get a police certificate for specific and up-to-date information on how to obtain police certificates from any country.
Thank you for your reply.

1 and 2 These 2 are good.

3. I graduated BS Computer Science in the Philippines, the medium of instruction was English but since it's not our first language, what will be the best way to prove it? In regards to my studies here, I was doing course upgrades in an adult school here in Vancouver, it is under the Vancouver School board. I took English 11 and 12 courses (structured class, which ran for 9 weeks) and Math 9 and 10 (self-paced). Hope this clears my query.

4. this is good too.
 

nithin

Star Member
Jul 12, 2011
50
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That visa is probably equivalent to the work permit here in Canada, not a travel documents.
Most travel documents are passports, but there are others : Nexus Card, refugees travel documents, laissez-passer to a country...
You can check the travel document page on wikipedia.
In practice, there's a high chance you only list your passports there.
Thanks Seym for reply
 

bellaluna

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May 23, 2014
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Thank you for your reply.

1 and 2 These 2 are good.

3. I graduated BS Computer Science in the Philippines, the medium of instruction was English but since it's not our first language, what will be the best way to prove it? In regards to my studies here, I was doing course upgrades in an adult school here in Vancouver, it is under the Vancouver School board. I took English 11 and 12 courses (structured class, which ran for 9 weeks) and Math 9 and 10 (self-paced). Hope this clears my query.

4. this is good too.
#3. Schools in the Philippines issue a certificate that English is the medium of instruction, if your school's registrar responds to emails and/or you have a proxy in the Philippines who can apply on your behalf there and mail it to you. Don't you also have certificates of completion for adult school?

Here's the list of accepted documents (click through):
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=571&top=5
 

planningtogo

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#3. Schools in the Philippines issue a certificate that English is the medium of instruction, if your school's registrar responds to emails and/or you have a proxy in the Philippines who can apply on your behalf there and mail it to you. Don't you also have certificates of completion for adult school?

Here's the list of accepted documents (click through):
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=571&top=5
I will get in touch with my school's registrar to get that information.

My Adult school gave me a letter that I was a student there and also my grades for the courses that I have taken. Will this be enough as a proof?