Choosing the right NOC code

[Operation Canada]

hello
I have a challenging time determining the right NOC code that match my current job responsibilities

Will 0013 - Senior manager category be the right code to choose if I am a member of the Leadership team but not a Vice president by profile name
VP is not a very common term in the retail industry like in financial institutions

How do I prove that I satisfy some or all of the duties attached to this NOC code?

any advise is greatly appreciated

 

[jes_ON]

hello
I have a challenging time determining the right NOC code that match my current job responsibilities

Will 0013 - Senior manager category be the right code to choose if I am a member of the Leadership team but not a Vice president by profile name
VP is not a very common term in the retail industry like in financial institutions

How do I prove that I satisfy some or all of the duties attached to this NOC code?

any advise is greatly appreciated

Honestly, if you have to ask that, then it is probably the wrong NOC code. But if you post your job duties and responsibilities as well as a general description of your company (what it makes/sells and to whom), then we would have a better chance of giving a reasonable opinion : )

 

[vasir004]

Hi,

I got the work permit in 2017 under the NOC2174 Skill Level A but I started to work in Canada only from 2018 for the same company as a Manager with new offer, recently i extended my work permit under this NOC0213 Skill type 0.

Ideally I have 1 year experience as Managerial skill type(0) but the workpermit for this tenure was under Skill Level A
Now the new workpermit is under Skill Type 0.

Now I am applying for Express entry what should i chose for my primary occupation NOC? Kindly advice

Any suggestion or information would be greatly appreciadated!!!

 

[uzzma]

Hello Everyone,
I am also confused with 2 NOC, my primary occupation is Human Resource Professional but for last 2 continuous years ( 3.5 in total) i am managing two NOCs together that is 0112 (HR Manager) and 0114 (Administrative services manager) under the job title of General Manager Human Resources and Administration. Now HR NOCs are not in demand but i have recently come across the demand of 0114, so i am willing to apply for this (as i complete continuous 1 year requirement) what shall i do, shall i make two separate profiles in EE pool or i use both NOCs in same profile, which one to keep secondary and which one to keep primary (considering my original profession is not in demand in any province).

please guide. Thanks in advance!!

 

[jes_ON]

I got the work permit in 2017 under the NOC2174 Skill Level A but I started to work in Canada only from 2018 for the same company as a Manager with new offer,

It sounds like you are saying you were authorized to work under NOC 2174, but changed jobs before getting a new work permit (e.g. worked without authorization). Even if it is with the same employer, if you want to change jobs, you are supposed to get a new work permit before you start the new position.

I would say, the way forward out of this mess depends a lot on the letter that your employer will write regarding your position(s) and job duties/responsibilities, and what your supporting documents (e.g. T4) say (as job title).

 

[vasir004]

It sounds like you are saying you were authorized to work under NOC 2174, but changed jobs before getting a new work permit (e.g. worked without authorization). Even if it is with the same employer, if you want to change jobs, you are supposed to get a new work permit before you start the new position.

I would say, the way forward out of this mess depends a lot on the letter that your employer will write regarding your position(s) and job duties/responsibilities, and what your supporting documents (e.g. T4) say (as job title).

Thanks Jes_ON, from what you say I should have updated obtained new work permit based on the new job role. But It was more like getting promoted from current role, may be I should have consulted earlier in this regards.
For now even though my Title in Job offer says Manager my job role is same as my old work permit (NOC2174) so I'm thinking of choosing my primary occupation NOC as 2174 and get a letter from my employer regarding my position(s) and job duties.

Kindly let me know if that would be correct or you have different suggestion?

 

[gta88]

Hi @jes_ON
Urgent request, really appreciate the help! -
Can you please help to identify the right NOC code? Title - Associate - retail operations.
1. To process work within agreed service level and to the required quality levels.
2. Maintain MI
3. Liaise with other departments across Retail operations
4. Develop an understanding of company's products and businesses as well as the internal and external clients
5. To gain regulatory knowledge and ensure knowledge is maintained
6. To keep supervisor informed of work in progress and escalate any possible issues which will impact on the timeframe to complete
7. To ensure knowledge of procedures are kept up to date, and any new procedures implemented.
8. To identify risks in the team proactively and drive forward ideas to mitigate these risks.

 

[gta88]

Hi @jes_ON
Urgent request, really appreciate the help! -
Can you please help to identify the right NOC code? Title - Associate - retail operations.
1. To process work within agreed service level and to the required quality levels.
2. Maintain MI
3. Liaise with other departments across Retail operations
4. Develop an understanding of company's products and businesses as well as the internal and external clients
5. To gain regulatory knowledge and ensure knowledge is maintained
6. To keep supervisor informed of work in progress and escalate any possible issues which will impact on the timeframe to complete
7. To ensure knowledge of procedures are kept up to date, and any new procedures implemented.
8. To identify risks in the team proactively and drive forward ideas to mitigate these risks.

Is this NOC 1122?
Also, would it be a misrep if a person changes/modifies his NOC duties with a 2nd application (1st application was refused on the based of NOC code mismatch) @scylla

 

[jes_ON]

Hi @jes_ON
Urgent request, really appreciate the help! -
Can you please help to identify the right NOC code? Title - Associate - retail operations.
1. To process work within agreed service level and to the required quality levels. What is the work that you process?
2. Maintain MI What is MI?
3. Liaise with other departments across Retail operations
4. Develop an understanding of company's products and businesses as well as the internal and external clients
5. To gain regulatory knowledge and ensure knowledge is maintained
6. To keep supervisor informed of work in progress and escalate any possible issues which will impact on the timeframe to complete
7. To ensure knowledge of procedures are kept up to date, and any new procedures implemented.
8. To identify risks in the team proactively and drive forward ideas to mitigate these risks.

Well, based on this, I have no idea what you actually DO. LOL. This is a case where a little more context would be of enormous help - Your title makes it sound like you are in a retail store, but perhaps you work in the corporate HQ of a retail company? If you work with clients, are they the general public, or other businesses?

 

[gta88]

Well, based on this, I have no idea what you actually DO. LOL. This is a case where a little more context would be of enormous help - Your title makes it sound like you are in a retail store, but perhaps you work in the corporate HQ of a retail company? If you work with clients, are they the general public, or other businesses?

Hi @jes_ON sorry for incomplete information- Here is the background of the position-

The company is a mutual funds company and the candidate was in retail operations department and a member in Legal team.
- To process work items related to deceased clients including placing redemption/withdrawal request on behalf of executors, placing blocks on account for safety of client assets, updating name on system for clients, updation of documents received by clients on system and sending communications (Letters) on completion or non completion of the requests.
-Verified the processed work of colleagues and vice versa.
-Send daily completion reports at the end of day to reporting manager for status of queues.
-Anyone facing an issue in their system had to contact tech team to get the issue resolved.
-Learning new processes throughout as new processes were being transitioned from our US counterpart.
-After the completion of work, if any additional request was received with our documents , used to create a case for other team to take an action.
- At times, work required support of other team to take an action first and then we had to proceed.In this situation , used to communicate through emails and calls to another teams . This was about past employer. Here, the applicant is dealing with internal departments.

At current employer who is a well known credit card company , applicant is part of Membership rewards team in Customer fulfillment network.
-We award bonus to card members as per the offer on their card,if system do not credit same .
-Handling customer queries over Emails and on cases set up by calling teams.
-Curing rejected transactions by system manually.
-Placing redemption/withdrawl orders on behalf of executors of deceased card members.
-Transferring points to our partners as per the card member’s request.
-Sending requests to partners received by commpany clients as we also deal in co brand cards.
-Sending letters to card members for completed and non completed requests.
-Crediting other bonus offer points if they are not received.
-Viewing offer documents.
Here, the applicant is dealing with card holders (public)

Please let me know if there are more questions to identify the right NOC code. Aiming for one Noc Code for both the positions.
Thanks again.

 

[gta88]

Hi @jes_ON sorry for incomplete information- Here is the background of the position-

The company is a mutual funds company and the candidate was in retail operations department and a member in Legal team.
- To process work items related to deceased clients including placing redemption/withdrawal request on behalf of executors, placing blocks on account for safety of client assets, updating name on system for clients, updation of documents received by clients on system and sending communications (Letters) on completion or non completion of the requests.
-Verified the processed work of colleagues and vice versa.
-Send daily completion reports at the end of day to reporting manager for status of queues.
-Anyone facing an issue in their system had to contact tech team to get the issue resolved.
-Learning new processes throughout as new processes were being transitioned from our US counterpart.
-After the completion of work, if any additional request was received with our documents , used to create a case for other team to take an action.
- At times, work required support of other team to take an action first and then we had to proceed.In this situation , used to communicate through emails and calls to another teams . This was about past employer. Here, the applicant is dealing with internal departments.

At current employer who is a well known credit card company , applicant is part of Membership rewards team in Customer fulfillment network.
-We award bonus to card members as per the offer on their card,if system do not credit same .
-Handling customer queries over Emails and on cases set up by calling teams.
-Curing rejected transactions by system manually.
-Placing redemption/withdrawl orders on behalf of executors of deceased card members.
-Transferring points to our partners as per the card member’s request.
-Sending requests to partners received by commpany clients as we also deal in co brand cards.
-Sending letters to card members for completed and non completed requests.
-Crediting other bonus offer points if they are not received.
-Viewing offer documents.
Here, the applicant is dealing with card holders (public)

Please let me know if there are more questions to identify the right NOC code. Aiming for one Noc Code for both the positions.
Thanks again.

@jes_ON Hi , Did you have a chance to look at this clarification please? MI means management information system. Thanks for your time and attention.

 

[gta88]

@jes_ON Hi , Did you have a chance to look at this clarification please? MI means management information system. Thanks for your time and attention.

@scylla Hi Scylla, would you be having any comments on this please?

 

[jes_ON]

Hi @jes_ON sorry for incomplete information- Here is the background of the position-

The company is a mutual funds company and the candidate was in retail operations department and a member in Legal team.
- To process work items related to deceased clients including placing redemption/withdrawal request on behalf of executors, placing blocks on account for safety of client assets, updating name on system for clients, updation of documents received by clients on system and sending communications (Letters) on completion or non completion of the requests.
-Verified the processed work of colleagues and vice versa.
-Send daily completion reports at the end of day to reporting manager for status of queues.
-Anyone facing an issue in their system had to contact tech team to get the issue resolved.
-Learning new processes throughout as new processes were being transitioned from our US counterpart.
-After the completion of work, if any additional request was received with our documents , used to create a case for other team to take an action.
- At times, work required support of other team to take an action first and then we had to proceed.In this situation , used to communicate through emails and calls to another teams . This was about past employer. Here, the applicant is dealing with internal departments.

I would say, probably - (sorry, NOC Level C, not eligible)
1434 – Banking, insurance and other financial clerks

https://noc.esdc.gc.ca/Structure/NocProfile/088af8792b704f5393a0f5727d90be22?objectid=FZ9roBpby4paF2kPchThD2BCe0GC15vy7YydiD2h+/fvRo06jhE6Y0tbY0Z+OVjL


At current employer who is a well known credit card company , applicant is part of Membership rewards team in Customer fulfillment network.
-We award bonus to card members as per the offer on their card,if system do not credit same .
-Handling customer queries over Emails and on cases set up by calling teams.
-Curing rejected transactions by system manually.
-Placing redemption/withdrawl orders on behalf of executors of deceased card members.
-Transferring points to our partners as per the card member’s request.
-Sending requests to partners received by commpany clients as we also deal in co brand cards.
-Sending letters to card members for completed and non completed requests.
-Crediting other bonus offer points if they are not received.
-Viewing offer documents.
Here, the applicant is dealing with card holders (public)

I would say, probably NOC 6551 - sorry, again, not eligible.
6551 – Customer services representatives - financial institutions
https://noc.esdc.gc.ca/Structure/NocProfile/ddd33e9ec7944aa79359165d040fc25c?objectid=y7SI4ZCodnkfUCPOJL/5UNHtrn1zlrQdJ8dZF2rETrSwk0k+zXKJM+Qw2snLQ6TI

Please let me know if there are more questions to identify the right NOC code. Aiming for one Noc Code for both the positions.

Why do you think it is important to have the same NOC for two different jobs? (It is not required for CEC) It is much more important to select the correct NOC code.

 

[gta88]

@jes_ON
Thanks for your response. What do you think of 6314?
Since the applicant is not a CEC applicant , he is aiming for same noc code to gain points under fsw.

 

[Invincible84]

Hello I have more than 10 years of experience in my field. The query is since cic only counts points for 3 years should I provide the work experience letter for last 3 years only as per noc code?

Or for all the 10 years?