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sneaker42

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May 2, 2019
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I have gone through the AIPP and would like to share some information based on my personal experience for those who thinking to apply or are in the process. I applied as High skilled worker
Guys before you apply consider doing some reading on employment law in the province you applying for. My case is long and complex but to cut it short I was unfairly dismissed and replaced with local employee. The employer was adamant that because I submitted my PR application after 90 days from submitting the initial application for WP permit the IRCC rejected my application for PR. That is actually not true as yes the IRCC website states that you should submit your PR within 90 days from the original date of submitting the WP permit but they do not say they will strictly reject your application if they are submitted after 90 days. The letter I received from IRCC regarding my PR (as my application was returned) did not even mention that the application is rejected because it was submitted after "90 days frame time". Instead I was asked to provide some missing documentation, thats all. SO as long as the endorsement is valid they will process the PR. And why did I submitted after time ? - because there is a lot of information to take in about immigration process and that is how I understood it at the time. However before dismissal while I was still working I had to apply for extension of my work permit (as my passport was expiring) and alongside I also submitted my PR. After I sent both applications for PR and WP and the endorsement expired but as the employer found someone else at the time I was dismissed even though I was legally able to work. I did not check before applying for AIPP but now I know that in Canada while you on probation period the employer can just say bye bye to you with no apparent reason that what has happen to me. I made a complaint to the organisation that deals with employment law but was informed that they cannot do nothing about the unfair dismissal as that is the law but if I feel that I was unfairly dismissed and would like to claim my losses/damages I can file a claim (chargeable service) to small claims court. You see the immigration process is not always straight forward and sometimes applications will be returned to you in order to provide additional docs etc. and the employer must understand that they may be required to extend your endorsement which has only 6 months validity. If like in my case they dont the choice is to find another designated employer and start the AIPP all over again, go back home or if you have a partner they can get their employer to become designated and then you can start the new AIPP application but with your partner being the main applicatant.
What I would say is: If you have job offers ensure that you speak to your future designated employers about things like:are they actually willing to support you through the immigration process, you may even want to ask if they could include in the employment contract that they are happy to extend your endorsement if need be. I hope you find this info helpful and I wish you all the best in your applications. I put few links to give an idea
https://www.cfib-fcei.ca/en/tools-resources/new-brunswick-employment-standards
https://novascotia.ca/lae/employmentrights/endemployment.asp
https://www.princeedwardisland.ca/en/information/workforce-and-advanced-learning/employment-standards-pei
https://www.aesl.gov.nl.ca/publications/labour/labour_relations_work.pdf
 
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Connectuae

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I have gone through the AIPP and would like to share some information based on my personal experience for those who thinking to apply or are in the process. I applied as High skilled worker
Guys before you apply consider doing some reading on employment law in the province you applying for. My case is long and complex but to cut it short I was unfairly dismissed and replaced with local employee. The employer was adamant that because I submitted my PR application after 90 days from submitting the initial application for WP permit the IRCC rejected my application for PR. That is actually not true as yes the IRCC website states that you should submit your PR within 90 days from the original date of submitting the WP permit but they do not say they will strictly reject your application if they are submitted after 90 days. The letter I received from IRCC regarding my PR (as my application was returned) did not even mention that the application is rejected because it was submitted after "90 days frame time". Instead I was asked to provide some missing documentation, thats all. SO as long as the endorsement is valid they will process the PR. And why did I submitted after time ? - because there is a lot of information to take in about immigration process and that is how I understood it at the time. However before dismissal while I was still working I had to apply for extension of my work permit (as my passport was expiring) and alongside I also submitted my PR. After I sent both applications for PR and WP and the endorsement expired but as the employer found someone else at the time I was dismissed even though I was legally able to work. I did not check before applying for AIPP but now I know that in Canada while you on probation period the employer can just say bye bye to you with no apparent reason that what has happen to me. I made a complaint to the organisation that deals with employment law but was informed that they cannot do nothing about the unfair dismissal as that is the law but if I feel that I was unfairly dismissed and would like to claim my losses/damages I can file a claim (chargeable service) to small claims court. You see the immigration process is not always straight forward and sometimes applications will be returned to you in order to provide additional docs etc. and the employer must understand that they may be required to extend your endorsement which has only 6 months validity. If like in my case they dont the choice is to find another designated employer and start the AIPP all over again, go back home or if you have a partner they can get their employer to become designated and then you can start the new AIPP application but with your partner being the main applicatant.
What I would say is: If you have job offers ensure that you speak to your future designated employers about things like:are they actually willing to support you through the immigration process, you may even want to ask if they could include in the employment contract that they are happy to extend your endorsement if need be. I hope you find this info helpful and I wish you all the best in your applications. I put few links to give an idea
https://www.cfib-fcei.ca/en/tools-resources/new-brunswick-employment-standards
https://novascotia.ca/lae/employmentrights/endemployment.asp
https://www.princeedwardisland.ca/en/information/workforce-and-advanced-learning/employment-standards-pei
https://www.aesl.gov.nl.ca/publications/labour/labour_relations_work.pdf
Did you got your PR...? If not then what is your plan now...?
 

sneaker42

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May 2, 2019
8
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If employer is not supporting your endorsement extension you may try to contact province to find the alternative and get a new job offer and endorsement. If you send the PR application with old invalid endorsement it will be returned. This program has success rate of 65-70 percent, the thing that happened to you has happened to many people.
Hi thank you. I was advised by one of the MPs to try that or even as alternative to get my spouse to get his employer to become designated and then I would become the dependant but sadly this costs time and money and obviously I am not able to work=no income so we chose to go home.
 

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Hi thank you. I was advised by one of the MPs to try that or even as alternative to get my spouse to get his employer to become designated and then I would become the dependant but sadly this costs time and money and obviously I am not able to work=no income so we chose to go home.
You don’t have to leave canada just extend your stay and try again. My express entry application was refused two times. But still i want to move to canada. IRCC don’t give a damn about applicants. Its the applicant’s responsibility to use and bend their rules to our convenience. If you still have status in the country just try getting a job from another atlantic province.
 

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sneaker42

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You don’t have to leave canada just extend your stay and try again. My express entry application was refused two times. But still i want to move to canada. IRCC don’t give a damn about applicants. Its the applicant’s responsibility to use and bend their rules to our convenience. If you still have status in the country just try getting a job from another atlantic province.
Thank you for encouragement but we made final decision and we made arrangements, but you are right the IRCC dont care. It may sound bad to say but it all looks so simple when you read about it and there appear to be so much "help" you know like settlement services etc but in reality once you actually arrive to canada you on your own- speaking for myself though.
 

ManiS 1402

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Hi Guys, I have a query that I am an outland applicant with 2 dependents. If I arrive in Canada on work permit and apply my PR from outside Canada then do I need to keep my funds until I get my PR or I can use them for my daily needs? Will it create any problem? As per CIC If we are in Canada on work permit then we don't have to show proof fund. Thank You
 

sneaker42

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May 2, 2019
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Hi Guys, I have a query that I am an outland applicant with 2 dependents. If I arrive in Canada on work permit and apply my PR from outside Canada then do I need to keep my funds until I get my PR or I can use them for my daily needs? Will it create any problem? As per CIC If we are in Canada on work permit then we don't have to show proof fund. Thank You
Yes I applied in Canada so didn’t provide anything as they know you are already working. Once you submitted your PR and showed that you have funds that’s it as when you come to Canada you won’t get your pay straight away right so hence you use your funds for daily use. Good luck
 

sneaker42

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May 2, 2019
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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cicnews.com/2012/06/question-answer-david-cohen-june-2012-061600.html/amp

This question was once answered by this attorney. But still giving the copy of birth certificate is advisable . Because every visa officer makes decision based on their own thought process. Can’t take risk with Ircc
On my example my PR application was actually returned because translated birth certificate I initially submitted was from copy of my BC not from the original version (Tht was because I emailed my BC for translation so the translator was not able to write that they saw original that’s all) so if I was you I would definitely make an effort to get it and at the end of the day you may need it in the future use.
 
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Connectuae

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Common mistakes that IRCC may send the file back...
1. Make sure you sign and date the require documents.
2. Send original IELTS-General certificate.(i think only in AIPP they need original certificate,in other programs they just need a copy)
3. Send ECA along with clear copies of your education credentials.
4. Don’t forget to attach 2 photos,1 blank and 1 stamped,dated,and signed by studio on the back along with your name and DOB,
5. One of my known paid the PR Fees 1040 CAD and after two months he called the bank that he did not authorised this transaction the bank returned the money and money was taken back from canada immigration too. So his PR file was declined because the fees he paid for processing was taken back by the bank. He tried to save his 1040 CAD and end up getting rejection for his PR file(Don’t try this credit card fraud it can work with buying a phone online but don’t try to be clever here)
6. Pay your PR fees on your own,usually immigration reps take money from you but don’t pay it to cic which ends up getting your file returned to you.
7. Don’t wait for PCC to send it upfront with your file,you can submit it later when IRCC requests it. It will save one month of your processing.
I am reposting this because some applicants file is being returned for silly reasons.
8. As of 1 may 2018 we have to send work reference letters,ECA,IELTS for work permit application too. And if you are planning to file for PR within 90 days of applying work permit make sure you send it with extended endorsement certificate. IRCC say on the day they receive PR application the endorsement has to be valid but if the PR file is incomplete they will send the file back. So calculate as on the day of AOR,the endorsement should be valid.
9. If any of your documents are not in english send them true copies of the original along with the english translation by an accredit agency.
10. Make sure the NOC mentioned on your endorsement matches your work experience letters.
11. Some bank officials for some money can print fake bank statements,don’t do that as your local visa officer is now used to find fake bank transactions and how do they look like, in one of my recent case of my friend CBSA held the passport of my friend at border crossing and told him bring recent bak statement and after checking it they will issue him the work permit. My friend was flagpoling and trying to change status from visitor to work permit holder.
 

suresh320

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Oct 28, 2012
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I have gone through the AIPP and would like to share some information based on my personal experience for those who thinking to apply or are in the process. I applied as High skilled worker
Guys before you apply consider doing some reading on employment law in the province you applying for. My case is long and complex but to cut it short I was unfairly dismissed and replaced with local employee. The employer was adamant that because I submitted my PR application after 90 days from submitting the initial application for WP permit the IRCC rejected my application for PR. That is actually not true as yes the IRCC website states that you should submit your PR within 90 days from the original date of submitting the WP permit but they do not say they will strictly reject your application if they are submitted after 90 days. The letter I received from IRCC regarding my PR (as my application was returned) did not even mention that the application is rejected because it was submitted after "90 days frame time". Instead I was asked to provide some missing documentation, thats all. SO as long as the endorsement is valid they will process the PR. And why did I submitted after time ? - because there is a lot of information to take in about immigration process and that is how I understood it at the time. However before dismissal while I was still working I had to apply for extension of my work permit (as my passport was expiring) and alongside I also submitted my PR. After I sent both applications for PR and WP and the endorsement expired but as the employer found someone else at the time I was dismissed even though I was legally able to work. I did not check before applying for AIPP but now I know that in Canada while you on probation period the employer can just say bye bye to you with no apparent reason that what has happen to me. I made a complaint to the organisation that deals with employment law but was informed that they cannot do nothing about the unfair dismissal as that is the law but if I feel that I was unfairly dismissed and would like to claim my losses/damages I can file a claim (chargeable service) to small claims court. You see the immigration process is not always straight forward and sometimes applications will be returned to you in order to provide additional docs etc. and the employer must understand that they may be required to extend your endorsement which has only 6 months validity. If like in my case they dont the choice is to find another designated employer and start the AIPP all over again, go back home or if you have a partner they can get their employer to become designated and then you can start the new AIPP application but with your partner being the main applicatant.
What I would say is: If you have job offers ensure that you speak to your future designated employers about things like:are they actually willing to support you through the immigration process, you may even want to ask if they could include in the employment contract that they are happy to extend your endorsement if need be. I hope you find this info helpful and I wish you all the best in your applications. I put few links to give an idea
https://www.cfib-fcei.ca/en/tools-resources/new-brunswick-employment-standards
https://novascotia.ca/lae/employmentrights/endemployment.asp
https://www.princeedwardisland.ca/en/information/workforce-and-advanced-learning/employment-standards-pei
https://www.aesl.gov.nl.ca/publications/labour/labour_relations_work.pdf
That is very disappointing , but I think you have given up too easily. Immigrating to Canada or a foreign country is never a simple means. They are laws and regulations the layman like us will only know or can know. That is why when I am ready to apply I will employ the services of a reputable immigration lawyer. As a professional my self I have been able to save clients millions in taxes due to my expertise and knowledge of Tax laws and polices in my country. Likewise these lawyers have the same expertise and knowledge that can make the process simpler for us. The fee may seem exuberant, but in the end it is an investment to save time and smoother process.
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