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Reapplying for visitor visa after denial

arunb8670

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Hi all,

My mother and I helped my aunt apply for a TRV. The purpose of visit is to see my wedding. Estimated stay is 1 month. She will come alone and leave her husband and daughter in India. My aunt is a homemaker. We applied online and she uploaded:

1. Form 5257e and other forms
2. All necessary pictures
3. Letter of invitation from my mother stating purpose of visit (my wedding), daily itinerary (including local trips in the GTA), scan of my wedding card, my mother's bank account ($30k), my mother's home ownership papers and mother's citizenship. We have pledged to pay for my aunt's expenses and have an extra bedroom for her
4. Proof of Financial Resource of Supporter -My aunt's husband's: company registration papers, GST registration, bank statements, market value report of house ($50k) and net worth report (house + other assets, $60k)
5. Proof of Financial Resource of Support - My aunt's joint bank statement with her husband ($2000), her husband's company's incorporation documents, his tax returns for 4 years and their joint savings account ($1000, RRSP equivalent I think)

She was denied based on not enough evidence that she would return and her lack of financial support. How would it be best to tackle this? My mother and I have income higher than the Canadian mean and we have pledged to pay for all her expenses on the trip. She is also leaving her husband and daughter for this trip. I feel like that is enough of a reason to return. The only option I can think of would be for us to purchase the plane ticket and re-apply. Any help/advice would be welcome.

Thanks
 

k.h.p.

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Part of the financial ability test is whether or not the applicant would be able to provide for the cost of their trip on their own if their inviters disappeared. Your aunt doesn't have the ability to do that. What you tried to do was demonstrate that you would pay her costs - yes, that's great, or else she wouldn't be able to afford - but what you now have to contend with is the appearance to the visa officer that you would pay for everything your aunt needs to live in Canada.

Her husband back home does not have anywhere near enough money to support your aunt in Canada for a month. So that's not financial support.

To re-apply, you need to re-emphasize that her husband and daughter are staying home. Does your aunt support or work for her husband's company? Does her daughter need special care or support? Are there obligations (medical tests, legal matters, some other things) that your aunt must return home to take care of?

Right now, the balance in a visa officer's mind is looking at everything that could 'pull' your aunt to Canada and to overstay, and comparing that to everything that would 'pull' her back home. The visa officer isn't seeing enough to pull her home.
 
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Bryanna

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Hi all,

My mother and I helped my aunt apply for a TRV. The purpose of visit is to see my wedding. Estimated stay is 1 month. She will come alone and leave her husband and daughter in India. My aunt is a homemaker. We applied online and she uploaded:

1. Form 5257e and other forms
2. All necessary pictures
3. Letter of invitation from my mother stating purpose of visit (my wedding), daily itinerary (including local trips in the GTA), scan of my wedding card, my mother's bank account ($30k), my mother's home ownership papers and mother's citizenship. We have pledged to pay for my aunt's expenses and have an extra bedroom for her
4. Proof of Financial Resource of Supporter -My aunt's husband's: company registration papers, GST registration, bank statements, market value report of house ($50k) and net worth report (house + other assets, $60k)
5. Proof of Financial Resource of Support - My aunt's joint bank statement with her husband ($2000), her husband's company's incorporation documents, his tax returns for 4 years and their joint savings account ($1000, RRSP equivalent I think)

She was denied based on not enough evidence that she would return and her lack of financial support. How would it be best to tackle this? My mother and I have income higher than the Canadian mean and we have pledged to pay for all her expenses on the trip. She is also leaving her husband and daughter for this trip. I feel like that is enough of a reason to return. The only option I can think of would be for us to purchase the plane ticket and re-apply. Any help/advice would be welcome.

Thanks
The financials and assets owned by your aunt and her husband are far too low even by India standards. This indirectly implies that her husband's business is not doing well.

It would raise the question as to why would your aunt spend significant savings (well beyond what they can afford) to visit.

No, it's not a good idea to buy tickets before visas are issued. It won't help to get a visa.

Also, your aunt's savings barely cover the cost of her tickets
 
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k.h.p.

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Hi,

I'm trying to sponsor my aunt and her daughter to get a TRV but the only downfall is she is unemployed and has a disabled daughter. I'll be financially responsible foe every aspect of the whole procedure and trip.

Any tips is greatly appreciated.I'm willing to purchasing maximum medical coverage for both of them and the trip is only 2 weeks.7

Thanks all!!
You may wish to start your own thread.
 
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arunb8670

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Part of the financial ability test is whether or not the applicant would be able to provide for the cost of their trip on their own if their inviters disappeared. Your aunt doesn't have the ability to do that. What you tried to do was demonstrate that you would pay her costs - yes, that's great, or else she wouldn't be able to afford - but what you now have to contend with is the appearance to the visa officer that you would pay for everything your aunt needs to live in Canada.

Her husband back home does not have anywhere near enough money to support your aunt in Canada for a month. So that's not financial support.

To re-apply, you need to re-emphasize that her husband and daughter are staying home. Does your aunt support or work for her husband's company? Does her daughter need special care or support? Are there obligations (medical tests, legal matters, some other things) that your aunt must return home to take care of?

Right now, the balance in a visa officer's mind is looking at everything that could 'pull' your aunt to Canada and to overstay, and comparing that to everything that would 'pull' her back home. The visa officer isn't seeing enough to pull her home.
Thanks for the response khp. Agreed. I can definitely emphasize that she the rest of her family, including husband, daughter, in-laws etc. are all still there. She supports her husband in terms of administratively, but there's no paperwork to show a salary.

In terms of financial support. We're in a bit more of a jam. I'm happy to transfer the necessary amount of CAD to her account to ease the application, but I think it would raise a red flag if her account goes from $1,000 CAD to $6,000 CAD overnight. Any thoughts on how best to tackle this?
 

arunb8670

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The financials and assets owned by your aunt and her husband are far too low even by India standards. This indirectly implies that her husband's business is not doing well.

It would raise the question as to why would your aunt spend significant savings (well beyond what they can afford) to visit.

No, it's not a good idea to buy tickets before visas are issued. It won't help to get a visa.

Also, your aunt's savings barely cover the cost of her tickets
Thanks for the response Bryanna. We'd pay the cost of her ticket. How is it best to tackle the financial support issue? The lack of assets may well signal a poor business, though I don't know this as a fact.

My aunt has never left India for travel and it would be fantastic if she visit. Can we transfer CAD to her? Open a bank account in Canada for her?

Appreciate all the help folks.
 

k.h.p.

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Thanks for the response khp. Agreed. I can definitely emphasize that she the rest of her family, including husband, daughter, in-laws etc. are all still there. She supports her husband in terms of administratively, but there's no paperwork to show a salary.

In terms of financial support. We're in a bit more of a jam. I'm happy to transfer the necessary amount of CAD to her account to ease the application, but I think it would raise a red flag if her account goes from $1,000 CAD to $6,000 CAD overnight. Any thoughts on how best to tackle this?
Transferring money like that is a red flag for exactly the reason you mention.
 
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k.h.p.

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Any advice on how to approach this?
Like I said before:

To re-apply, you need to re-emphasize that her husband and daughter are staying home. Does your aunt support or work for her husband's company? Does her daughter need special care or support? Are there obligations (medical tests, legal matters, some other things) that your aunt must return home to take care of?

Right now, the balance in a visa officer's mind is looking at everything that could 'pull' your aunt to Canada and to overstay, and comparing that to everything that would 'pull' her back home. The visa officer isn't seeing enough to pull her home.