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Do you have a valid job offer qtn in EE profile

snowbaby

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Nov 25, 2018
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Hi there.

I am really racking my brain about how to answer this question when creating my EE profile.

The question asks if I have a valid job offer.

First of all, I'll explain my situation. I'm on a PGWP and have been working for my employer for a year and it's almost unlikely that they would do an LMIA for me because they can easily find a Canadian to do my job.

Back to the question, when I read the description on what CIC means by that question. In the beginning I meet the requirements but CIC also states other requirements which I don't meet.

What I've highlighted Green, I meet the requirements and what I've highlighted Red, I don't meet the requirements.

Federal Skilled Workers and Canadian Experience Class
A valid job offer has to be:

  • made by one employer
  • continuous
  • paid
  • full-time (at least 30 hours a week)
  • for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa
    • not seasonal
    • not on a contract basis
  • in a job that is NOC:
    • Skill Type 0 or
    • Skill Levels A or B
It also must be made :

  • by an employer with a new positive LMIA that approves the offer and names you and your position OR
  • if you’re currently working in Canada in a NOC 0, A or B job on a work permit that was issued based on an LMIA, and:
    • you’re working for an employer listed on your work permit
    • you’re authorized to work in Canada on the day you apply for a permanent resident visa, and when the visa is issued
    • your current employer made you an offer to give you a full-time job for at least one year if you’re accepted as a permanent resident OR
  • if you have a valid work permit for a NOC 0, A or B job that is exempt from needing an LMIA, and you:
    • are currently working for an employer specified on the work permit
    • have one year of full-time work experience (or an equal amount of part-time work) for that employer
    • have a valid job offer from that employer for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa

Anyways, so how do I answer this question?

PLEASE HELP!!!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
92,831
20,490
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
No - you don't have a job offer. If you are on a PGWP, your employer would need to obtain an approved LMIA in order for you to qualify for job offer points.
 
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jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,092
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
  • if you have a valid work permit for a NOC 0, A or B job that is exempt from needing an LMIA, and you:
    • are currently working for an employer specified on the work permit
    • have one year of full-time work experience (or an equal amount of part-time work) for that employer
    • have a valid job offer from that employer for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa
To add to what scylla said, the reason this scenario does not apply to you is bolded above - some LMIA-exempt work permits are "closed," meaning they are for a specific employer (with the employer's name on the work permit). PGWPs and other open work permits do not meet this criterion because there is no employer named on the work permit.
 
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mailliWA

Member
Feb 4, 2019
19
1
hi... i think we're on a similar situation. I currently have OWP and working fulltime for a year now here in BC. As i create my EE profile I got stuck in "intended work in Canada" portion.

Since I am already working here in Canada, does the portion "Does XXXX have a job offer in Canada?" applicable to me? Is it a "NO" or "YES"?
If I choose "NO", there will be no more fields to fill in. However, If I choose "YES" other confusing fields will show up (since I have open work permit) like:

"Does XXXX have a valid work permit for the current job in Canada?"
"Is XXXX job offer from the employer named on the current work permit?"
"Has XXXX been working full-time for the employer on their current work permit for at least one year?" and
"Four digit NOC code of current work permit"

thanks in advance for your help!
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,092
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
hi... i think we're on a similar situation. I currently have OWP and working fulltime for a year now here in BC. As i create my EE profile I got stuck in "intended work in Canada" portion.

Since I am already working here in Canada, does the portion "Does XXXX have a job offer in Canada?" applicable to me? Is it a "NO" or "YES"?
If I choose "NO", there will be no more fields to fill in. However, If I choose "YES" other confusing fields will show up (since I have open work permit) like:

"Does XXXX have a valid work permit for the current job in Canada?"
"Is XXXX job offer from the employer named on the current work permit?"
"Has XXXX been working full-time for the employer on their current work permit for at least one year?" and
"Four digit NOC code of current work permit"
Unfortunately the question is not worded very well, and refers to having a "valid job offer" or "arranged employment" which have set criteria - notably, merely having a job in Canada does not meet the requirements of having a valid job offer.

You should answer "no."

For more info,
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=695&top=29
 
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mailliWA

Member
Feb 4, 2019
19
1
Unfortunately the question is not worded very well, and refers to having a "valid job offer" or "arranged employment" which have set criteria - notably, merely having a job in Canada does not meet the requirements of having a valid job offer.

You should answer "no."

For more info,
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=695&top=29
thank u for your response jes_ON (",)
if i'll answer NO, i wonder how will my 1 year Canada experience be reflected/counted for points? through "work history"?
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,092
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
thank u for your response jes_ON (",)
if i'll answer NO, i wonder how will my 1 year Canada experience be reflected/counted for points? through "work history"?
You can see how CRS points are awarded here -
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/criteria-comprehensive-ranking-system/grid.html

BTW - valid job offer refers to a FUTURE job offer (at least one year after you become a PR). Work experience is in the past - two completely separate categories as far as points are concerned.
 
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mailliWA

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deepasri

Full Member
Apr 10, 2018
24
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Hello, I have a similar situation. I am on a Work Permit and will be completing 1yr in few months (say Nov) so i can get the Job Offer letter from my employer and experience letter. But since i have visibility of my project only till end of this year i might go back to my home country. If i create EE profile with Canadian experience and Job Offer then leave Canada to my home country will the Job offer and experince still count in the EE? When i get ITA can i attach the Job letter that my employer has provided?

Thanks
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
92,831
20,490
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Hello, I have a similar situation. I am on a Work Permit and will be completing 1yr in few months (say Nov) so i can get the Job Offer letter from my employer and experience letter. But since i have visibility of my project only till end of this year i might go back to my home country. If i create EE profile with Canadian experience and Job Offer then leave Canada to my home country will the Job offer and experince still count in the EE? When i get ITA can i attach the Job letter that my employer has provided?

Thanks
Are you on an open work permit or closed work permit linked to your employer?