Help! Can I enter Canada 1 year before PR expire?

[YVR123]

You never mentioned when you landed in Canada. That's what determine your RO, not your PR card date/expiry date.
Advice is to move back to Canada and stay (no travelling at all outside) at least 2 year prior to 5 years from your landing date.
Assuming that you landed on Dec 2016, then before Dec 2019 you need to come back and stay in Canada to meet your RO.

 

[Bloodrose]

Canada has accepted large number of immigrants on a yearly basis so the rush to apply while you qualify while not actually being ready to move doesn't make sense.

That's not always true IMHO. E.g. if you're due to reach a certain age that would make you ineligible for an ITA because of CRS score.

 

[Dalboy1980]

Canada has accepted large number of immigrants on a yearly basis so the rush to apply while you qualify while not actually being ready to move doesn't make sense.

You should be aware that you need to be compliant with your RO to sponsor spouses or children who are not PRs.

Canuck78 I respect your view because you're an established member of this forum and your posts and time you've spent here helping and assisting people is invaluable.

But I must concur with the other member's words, sometimes situations change and sadly life doesn't give you any warning, so your best intentions of moving sooner or when you receive your PR may unfortunately be out of your hands.
As for playing the system....again not the best choice of words to use really, I myself had stayed outside of Canada longer than I should've because of situations that occurred beyond my control, I was fortunate that I didn't get reported at the border and I've stayed for 3 years continuously, brought a house, have a job and a newborn daughter....so if this was playing the game or wasting time in not coming earlier my sincere apologies.
I left a great life in the UK to come to Canada to not only build a life for me and my family but to also help Canada grow and contribute to making it become an even more stronger and successful country than it currently is.

My words here aren't an attack or anything on yourself, but please be a little bit more sympathetic and accommodating towards other people's concerns or issues, whether they have been self inflicted or not.

As I said in my opening statement, I do value highly your input because without individuals like yourself many people in this forum would truly be lost, but your execution and expression needs some work Sir.

 

[Copingwithlife]

If the majority of the voting population in this country only realized it “ only “ takes spending 2 years out of 5 to maintain ones permanent residency here, I’m sure people’s faith in the immigration process would even fall lower then it currently has . I’ve called my MP and expressed my views on this , as well as people getting across the border and being “ fortunate “ not being reported for non compliancy . They said my concerns as a citizen would be forwarded to IRCC. Being sympathetic has nothing to do with it , gaming the system does , by realizing one is non compliant then expecting the system to be sympathetic.
Someone “ lecturing “ someone under the guise of sounding appreciative is even worse

 

[canvan14]

You can enter Canada before your PR card expired provided you did not get questioned by CBSA (this is unlikely but can happen).
Once you get in, you have to stay in Canada for 2 years out of the next 5 years to fulfill PR obligation before applying for PR renewal. During this time, you will have an expired PR card which you will have to answer to whenever questioned by the authority. Unfortunately that is the risk that you have to take given your situation.

 

[amitosr]

1. Canadian immigration guys are very humanly u have a .5 probability (50% chance ) of getting thru the border without being reported- if you have a very solid reason.
2. My gut feeling is from USA if so you can come via road and try.
3. The sentiment of CBSA on exceptional cases might change with change in govt vision.
4. There is huge inflow of very competitive and educated professional folks coming to canada from US, India, China and other countries - the more late you come the chances of grabbing a great job goes down (Demand supply competition).
5. Great place- except the weather and toronto drivers and car insurance.

 

[Dalboy1980]

If the majority of the voting population in this country only realized it “ only “ takes spending 2 years out of 5 to maintain ones permanent residency here, I’m sure people’s faith in the immigration process would even fall lower then it currently has . I’ve called my MP and expressed my views on this , as well as people getting across the border and being “ fortunate “ not being reported for non compliancy . They said my concerns as a citizen would be forwarded to IRCC. Being sympathetic has nothing to do with it , gaming the system does , by realizing one is non compliant then expecting the system to be sympathetic.
Someone “ lecturing “ someone under the guise of sounding appreciative is even worse

With due respect I am greatly appreciative of all the assistance that we receive in this forum as have I received also, you're talking to someone born and brought up in the UK who paid his taxes all his life there and I'm doing the same here....so if that's gaming the system then I'm guilty, as for being fortunate or unfortunate I took a punt and realised that should I be reported then yes there would be a chance of being sent back home.
That was something I was prepared for, I understand the concerns around immigration, law breakers (so to speak) as it was a concern of mine when also residing in the UK.
But again if you're telling me that coming here slightly later than I should have due to circumstances beyond my control is a sin, then for that I am truly sorry but I've contributed to the Canadian system and hope that I continue to do so.
As for "lecturing," well you don't know me as a person and have simply missed the point that I was trying to make....people come here for assistance and not to be told that they're playing games with the system.
You also state if only the people know it takes "only" 2 out of 5 years, I think you'll find more of the Canadian public know this than don't know this, oh and yes would probably also be more supportive with everyone rather than yourself.
Have a good one....mate!

 

[canuck_in_uk]

With due respect I am greatly appreciative of all the assistance that we receive in this forum as have I received also, you're talking to someone born and brought up in the UK who paid his taxes all his life there and I'm doing the same here....so if that's gaming the system then I'm guilty, as for being fortunate or unfortunate I took a punt and realised that should I be reported then yes there would be a chance of being sent back home.
That was something I was prepared for, I understand the concerns around immigration, law breakers (so to speak) as it was a concern of mine when also residing in the UK.
But again if you're telling me that coming here slightly later than I should have due to circumstances beyond my control is a sin, then for that I am truly sorry but I've contributed to the Canadian system and hope that I continue to do so.
As for "lecturing," well you don't know me as a person and have simply missed the point that I was trying to make....people come here for assistance and not to be told that they're playing games with the system.
You also state if only the people know it takes "only" 2 out of 5 years, I think you'll find more of the Canadian public know this than don't know this, oh and yes would probably also be more supportive with everyone rather than yourself.
Have a good one....mate!

Just to touch on the last statement, the majority of Canadians have no idea what the residency requirement is for PRs. Most don't even truly understand PR status unless they have been through the immigration process themselves.

 

[canuck78]

With due respect I am greatly appreciative of all the assistance that we receive in this forum as have I received also, you're talking to someone born and brought up in the UK who paid his taxes all his life there and I'm doing the same here....so if that's gaming the system then I'm guilty, as for being fortunate or unfortunate I took a punt and realised that should I be reported then yes there would be a chance of being sent back home.
That was something I was prepared for, I understand the concerns around immigration, law breakers (so to speak) as it was a concern of mine when also residing in the UK.
But again if you're telling me that coming here slightly later than I should have due to circumstances beyond my control is a sin, then for that I am truly sorry but I've contributed to the Canadian system and hope that I continue to do so.
As for "lecturing," well you don't know me as a person and have simply missed the point that I was trying to make....people come here for assistance and not to be told that they're playing games with the system.
You also state if only the people know it takes "only" 2 out of 5 years, I think you'll find more of the Canadian public know this than don't know this, oh and yes would probably also be more supportive with everyone rather than yourself.
Have a good one....mate!

We see people daily asking how long they can stay out of Canada in order to meet their residency requirement and then later on post again saying something has come up. It is frustrating to most Canadians on this forum to see such lenient rules and then people who fail to comply. We also see tons of people complaining that Canada is unfair because there is a wait time to sponsor spouses or bring parents. Many people don't comply with the residency requirements but then complain about Canada's wait times. You can't have it both ways. To maintain your PR you are asked to live in Canada not much more so it is frustrating when people can't even do that. I understand that things come up and you have to wrap up your previous life but 3 years is a lot of time. The issue is people don't actually plan on moving until the 3 year mark and then something comes up.

If most people realized the residency requirements to keep PR or to get citizenship most Canadians would actually be in shock. Most have zero idea about the immigration policies.

 

[Dalboy1980]

We see people daily asking how long they can stay out of Canada in order to meet their residency requirement and then later on post again saying something has come up. It is frustrating to most Canadians on this forum to see such lenient rules and then people who fail to comply. We also see tons of people complaining that Canada is unfair because there is a wait time to sponsor spouses or bring parents. Many people don't comply with the residency requirements but then complain about Canada's wait times. You can't have it both ways. To maintain your PR you are asked to live in Canada not much more so it is frustrating when people can't even do that. I understand that things come up and you have to wrap up your previous life but 3 years is a lot of time. The issue is people don't actually plan on moving until the 3 year mark and then something comes up.

If most people realized the residency requirements to keep PR or to get citizenship most Canadians would actually be in shock. Most have zero idea about the immigration policies.

canuck78, contrary to the other gentleman's opinion I do genuinely appreciate the time you all spend here in giving advice, no matter what even when you're annoyed or angry perhaps at the individuals for having flouted rules that are quire clearly stated everywhere.
3 years is a long time yes, in my example I can't go into why I couldn't move sooner but let's say 3 years was not long enough for me and when I boarded that airline I knew that there was a possibility that I could be sent back but again I wasn't blaming the system or saying that 3 years wasn't long enough, it's a risk I took.
I read some of the questions raised in this forum and too think myself why on earth are certain questions asked and yes can clearly see that certain individuals have flouted the 2 out of 5 year rule for reasons that really aren't fit for merit to be debated.
As for most Canadians not knowing the laws, well with you being Canadian I'll take your word for it and yes the only way to change that is lobby your MP and vote at the next general election.
Anyhow, I'll thank you again for your assistance....no that doesn't have any hidden agenda or guise as mentioned by the previous person who replied and I'll say keep up the good work but please don't tarnish everyone with the same brush and think that every individual is playing a game with the system

 

[canuck78]

canuck78, contrary to the other gentleman's opinion I do genuinely appreciate the time you all spend here in giving advice, no matter what even when you're annoyed or angry perhaps at the individuals for having flouted rules that are quire clearly stated everywhere.
3 years is a long time yes, in my example I can't go into why I couldn't move sooner but let's say 3 years was not long enough for me and when I boarded that airline I knew that there was a possibility that I could be sent back but again I wasn't blaming the system or saying that 3 years wasn't long enough, it's a risk I took.
I read some of the questions raised in this forum and too think myself why on earth are certain questions asked and yes can clearly see that certain individuals have flouted the 2 out of 5 year rule for reasons that really aren't fit for merit to be debated.
As for most Canadians not knowing the laws, well with you being Canadian I'll take your word for it and yes the only way to change that is lobby your MP and vote at the next general election.
Anyhow, I'll thank you again for your assistance....no that doesn't have any hidden agenda or guise as mentioned by the previous person who replied and I'll say keep up the good work but please don't tarnish everyone with the same brush and think that every individual is playing a game with the system

I am under no illusion that most people are maliciously breaking rules. Think many are being counselled incorrectly by family and consultants that they should apply to immigrate too early. People should apply when they are in the position to move in the next year and not while starting degrees in other countries or having signed multi-year work contracts. I also know many have come from countries where the flexible based on who you know and how much you are willing to pay. The only real requirement to maintain PR is to be in Canada for 2 out of 5 years. I have seen tons of people who have managed to get into Canada without being reported who then complain about how long it is taking to get their new PR card or citizenship. Frustration when Canada is very lenient and generous compared to many other countries when it comes to various immigration programs that people don't follow the rules and that our government also doesn't clamp down when rules aren't followed. Just saw something about PEI tonight.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-pnp-federal-review-shut-down-1.4840725