Help! Can I enter Canada 1 year before PR expire?

[BryantK]

Hi there, I received PR card in Feb 2017, which will expire Feb 2022, I only went to Canada 3 times so far with less than two weeks stay each time, because of work and other life arrangements, it looks like I can only move to Montreal in June 2021, which leaves only 8 months or so before the expiration of my PR card.
I'm planning to stay for more than 3 years afterward...

And my question would be, will I be allowed to enter Canada at that time, without PR being revoked?
Anyone who knows a good immigration lawyer in Montreal would appreciate your recommendations as well!
Thanks in advance for any of your ideas or advice!

 

[canuck78]

Yes you will be allowed to enter but no guarantee you won't be reported for not meeting your residency obligation. 2 out of 5 years is a very lenient requirement.

 

[BryantK]

Yes you will be allowed to enter but no guarantee you won't be reported for not meeting your residency obligation. 2 out of 5 years is a very lenient requirement.

Thank you! I wonder if there is some preparation I can make beforehand that can make the situation better, such as... if I visit each year with a short time period (1 or 2 weeks) or having a bank account? I heard some people will get a deport notice that ask them to leave within 30 days...

I was planning on moving over exactly at the 2 years before PR expires, but just realized today that I cannot move probably till mid-2021, because of my study requirement, and start panicking.

Any advice are all appreciated!

 

[canuck78]

Thank you! I wonder if there is some preparation I can make beforehand that can make the situation better, such as... if I visit each year with a short time period (1 or 2 weeks) or having a bank account? I heard some people will get a deport notice that ask them to leave within 30 days...

I was planning on moving over exactly at the 2 years before PR expires, but just realized today that I cannot move probably till mid-2021, because of my study requirement, and start panicking.

Any advice are all appreciated!

Not sure why people apply when they know they can't move or don't want to move for many years. Needing to complete studies isn't considered a reason not to fulfill your RO. If you get reported you will have the opportunity to appeal but without a H&C reason, like a serious longterm illness of parent without any other family nearby, you will end up losing the appeal.

 

[Bloodrose]

Not sure why people apply when they know they can't move or don't want to move for many years. Needing to complete studies isn't considered a reason not to fulfill your RO. If you get reported you will have the opportunity to appeal but without a H&C reason, like a serious longterm illness of parent without any other family nearby, you will end up losing the appeal.

Because circumstances change and every immigration consultancy firm in the world would advise people to do this.

Canadian immigration laws are in constant flux and immigrating to similar nations like the US, UK, Australia and even New Zealand is becoming increasingly out of reach for most people these days. Essentially people apply while they are eligible and then try to play the system to their advantage from there.

 

[canuck78]

Because circumstances change and every immigration consultancy firm in the world would advise people to do this.

Canadian immigration laws are in constant flux and immigrating to similar nations like the US, UK, Australia and even New Zealand is becoming increasingly out of reach for most people these days. Essentially people apply while they are eligible and then try to play the system to their advantage from there.

If you play the system you shouldn't be surprised if you lose your PR.

 

[Bloodrose]

If you play the system you shouldn't be surprised if you lose your PR.

Of course not but you would be surprised how many immigration agents push the loopholes almost as though they were PR advantages.

 

[foodie69]

Hi there, I received PR card in Feb 2017, which will expire Feb 2022, I only went to Canada 3 times so far with less than two weeks stay each time, because of work and other life arrangements, it looks like I can only move to Montreal in June 2021, which leaves only 8 months or so before the expiration of my PR card.
I'm planning to stay for more than 3 years afterward...

And my question would be, will I be allowed to enter Canada at that time, without PR being revoked?
Anyone who knows a good immigration lawyer in Montreal would appreciate your recommendations as well!
Thanks in advance for any of your ideas or advice!

Based on your scenario, the 2 out of 5 years requirement will be your downfall. The validity of your card plays no role in this.

 

[canuck78]

Of course not but you would be surprised how many immigration agents push the loopholes almost as though they were PR advantages.

I hope the Canada becomes tougher at refusing anyone who breaks the rules. People do lose their status daily. If you don't follow the rules you have to be prepared to suffer the consequences.

 

[canuck78]

We already have seen changes. Children who have barely spent any time in Canada are being refused when they claim they were removed against their will as a minor. Consultants have been telling people that this is the way to secure domestic tuition for their children.

 

[steaky]

Hi there, I received PR card in Feb 2017, which will expire Feb 2022, I only went to Canada 3 times so far with less than two weeks stay each time, because of work and other life arrangements, it looks like I can only move to Montreal in June 2021, which leaves only 8 months or so before the expiration of my PR card.
I'm planning to stay for more than 3 years afterward...

And my question would be, will I be allowed to enter Canada at that time, without PR being revoked?
Anyone who knows a good immigration lawyer in Montreal would appreciate your recommendations as well!
Thanks in advance for any of your ideas or advice!

Do you not realize the host of this forum is a law firm based in Montreal?

 

[BryantK]

Do you not realize the host of this forum is a law firm based in Montreal?

I actually didn't, thanks this is a good point I'll try to consult with them.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I actually didn't, thanks this is a good point I'll try to consult with them.

There is no point in consulting a lawyer. They cannot do anything to change the fact that you won't meet the Residency Obligation.

 

[BryantK]

If you play the system you shouldn't be surprised if you lose your PR.

First of all, I'm not trying to play the system, and I will take responsibility for my actions and is prepared for consequences.

For your earlier comments on "why people still apply while can't move",
a. it is indeed because there are timing issues, at the time there was an opportunity to apply and If I don't, I will lose that opportunity and don't know if there is another opportunity in future to be qualified again,
b. I apply not because I want to take advantage of the social benefit or welfare, but because of very personal reasons, and, because I believe in the Canadian culture and social system, it makes sense to me, in comparing to some other countries,
c. life doesn't always go the way one plan, I had planned well to make sure I have enough savings and can continue to generate income once I arrive there, that's why I need time to build up myself, especially when I have kids to feed, and I planned to arrive on time to satisfy the residency requirement, but there are bumps, there are things that just happened and are out of my control, that's why I'm posting question here to find out more information to help me make the right decision and to prepare or adjust my plan as much as I can. I'm not asking someone to give me a magic bullet to allow me entering at a late time and still keep the PR, but I need as much information as possible so that to make a better decision.

If everything in your life always goes exactely as you planned, I'm happy for you and wish you can continue to have that luck, as long as possible, in your future, sincerely.

But please note that there are people that not as lucky as you are. And one thing that Canada is particularly attracted to me, is that all Canadians I've met so far, regardless of their age or social status or education background, one thing in common is that they are all very mellow and have lots of compassion.

Thanks again for your following advice! -- "Yes you will be allowed to enter but no guarantee you won't be reported for not meeting your residency obligation".

 

[canuck78]

First of all, I'm not trying to play the system, and I will take responsibility for my actions and is prepared for consequences.

For your earlier comments on "why people still apply while can't move",
a. it is indeed because there are timing issues, at the time there was an opportunity to apply and If I don't, I will lose that opportunity and don't know if there is another opportunity in future to be qualified again,
b. I apply not because I want to take advantage of the social benefit or welfare, but because of very personal reasons, and, because I believe in the Canadian culture and social system, it makes sense to me, in comparing to some other countries,
c. life doesn't always go the way one plan, I had planned well to make sure I have enough savings and can continue to generate income once I arrive there, that's why I need time to build up myself, especially when I have kids to feed, and I planned to arrive on time to satisfy the residency requirement, but there are bumps, there are things that just happened and are out of my control, that's why I'm posting question here to find out more information to help me make the right decision and to prepare or adjust my plan as much as I can. I'm not asking someone to give me a magic bullet to allow me entering at a late time and still keep the PR, but I need as much information as possible so that to make a better decision.

If everything in your life always goes exactely as you planned, I'm happy for you and wish you can continue to have that luck, as long as possible, in your future, sincerely.

But please note that there are people that not as lucky as you are. And one thing that Canada is particularly attracted to me, is that all Canadians I've met so far, regardless of their age or social status or education background, one thing in common is that they are all very mellow and have lots of compassion.

Thanks again for your following advice! -- "Yes you will be allowed to enter but no guarantee you won't be reported for not meeting your residency obligation".

Canada has accepted large number of immigrants on a yearly basis so the rush to apply while you qualify while not actually being ready to move doesn't make sense.

You should be aware that you need to be compliant with your RO to sponsor spouses or children who are not PRs.