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She got a solid job offer and LMIA but they refused the work permit

ange1uis

Member
Nov 8, 2018
18
8
Dominican Republic
Visa Office......
Santo Domingo
NOC Code......
2175
Hi guys!

I'm sharing our case because this forum has been very helpful for us and have given us a lot of guidance, and maybe others can shed more light on this situation, or even help others in the same situation.

My wife got a job offer and the company achieved the LMIA for her. She also obtained a license that is required to work in the field that she wil be working in. After that, we proceeded to apply for a working permit for her, an open-work permit for me and a visitor visa for our 1-year old baby. We provided ALL the supporting documents required to complete the applications and the three of them were denied.

These were the simplified versions of the reasons:

WORKING PERMIT
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
  • I am not satisfied you meet the language requirements for the proposed employment.

OPEN-WORK PERMIT
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

VISITOR
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

Today I requested the GCMS and as soon as they arrive I'll share it here so others can learn for the mistakes we made.

PS: They didn't ask for proof of funds or ielts test results.
Update: We applied again and sent new supporting documents (cover letters, bank statements, ielts, eca...) and now they are requesting this document:

Please provide T4 Summary of Remuneration paid for 2016 and 2017 from your prospective employer.

We are contacting the employer for more information about this documents. We think is a good sign that they're requesting this before continuing processing the application.

Fingers crossed.
 
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ange1uis

Member
Nov 8, 2018
18
8
Dominican Republic
Visa Office......
Santo Domingo
NOC Code......
2175
Update: We applied again and sent new supporting documents (cover letters, bank statements, ielts, eca...) and now they are requesting this document:

Please provide T4 Summary of Remuneration paid for 2016 and 2017 from your prospective employer.

We are contacting the employer for more information about this documents. We think is a good sign that they're requesting this before continuing processing the application.

Fingers crossed.
Update: They requested the document mention above on November 21st and when uploaded the document the next day, yesterday we got refusal letters saying that they never received the documents. AAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!!

We wrote immediately to the visa office that processed our application (Mexico), with screenshots of the platform saying that the documents were uploaded, waiting for a reply now.
 

MarsiaMS

Hero Member
Jul 5, 2016
454
180
Northern British Columbia
Visa Office......
Sydney, NS
NOC Code......
4152
App. Filed.......
27-01-2017
AOR Received.
15-03-2017
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Request
28-02-2018
Med's Done....
upfront
Update: They requested the document mention above on November 21st and when uploaded the document the next day, yesterday we got refusal letters saying that they never received the documents. AAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!!

We wrote immediately to the visa office that processed our application (Mexico), with screenshots of the platform saying that the documents were uploaded, waiting for a reply now.
Any update? What happened next?
Your case reminds me of my own struggle to get my husband here. They refused him a visitor Visa four times, and then a spousal work permit twice, all for no reason other than they did not trust him. He qualified for the SOWP otherwise, we even hired a representative, so it is not like we did not submit the right documents.
Apply for EE. Once you are invited and pass the initial eligibility check, it is very unlikely that you would be refused. Work permits are just a waste of time and money. CIC can refuse you again and again, for no reason whatsoever, and the more refusals you get, the less chances you have to be approved.
 
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ange1uis

Member
Nov 8, 2018
18
8
Dominican Republic
Visa Office......
Santo Domingo
NOC Code......
2175
Any update? What happened next?
Your case reminds me of my own struggle to get my husband here. They refused him a visitor Visa four times, and then a spousal work permit twice, all for no reason other than they did not trust him. He qualified for the SOWP otherwise, we even hired a representative, so it is not like we did not submit the right documents.
Apply for EE. Once you are invited and pass the initial eligibility check, it is very unlikely that you would be refused. Work permits are just a waste of time and money. CIC can refuse you again and again, for no reason whatsoever, and the more refusals you get, the less chances you have to be approved.
We contacted the visa office without any luck, they said that once the application is close they cant reopen the application. We applied again on November 20th adding the document in question and a letter from the employer explaining that the offer was real.

Today we received the passport request latter from the cic. We are very happy.
 

MarsiaMS

Hero Member
Jul 5, 2016
454
180
Northern British Columbia
Visa Office......
Sydney, NS
NOC Code......
4152
App. Filed.......
27-01-2017
AOR Received.
15-03-2017
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Request
28-02-2018
Med's Done....
upfront
We contacted the visa office without any luck, they said that once the application is close they cant reopen the application. We applied again on November 20th adding the document in question and a letter from the employer explaining that the offer was real.

Today we received the passport request latter from the cic. We are very happy.
Congrats!
 
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nicole08

Full Member
Jan 20, 2019
22
0
Hi guys!

I'm sharing our case because this forum has been very helpful for us and have given us a lot of guidance, and maybe others can shed more light on this situation, or even help others in the same situation.

My wife got a job offer and the company achieved the LMIA for her. She also obtained a license that is required to work in the field that she wil be working in. After that, we proceeded to apply for a working permit for her, an open-work permit for me and a visitor visa for our 1-year old baby. We provided ALL the supporting documents required to complete the applications and the three of them were denied.

These were the simplified versions of the reasons:

WORKING PERMIT
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
  • I am not satisfied you meet the language requirements for the proposed employment.

OPEN-WORK PERMIT
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

VISITOR
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

Today I requested the GCMS and as soon as they arrive I'll share it here so others can learn for the mistakes we made.

PS: They didn't ask for proof of funds or ielts test results.
Hi There!
Thank you for sharing your experience here.
I am now waiting for my LMIA for ECE position.
May I ask how long did you wait for your lmia?
 

Ivanna1184

Newbie
Sep 23, 2019
5
0
Hi guys!

I'm sharing our case because this forum has been very helpful for us and have given us a lot of guidance, and maybe others can shed more light on this situation, or even help others in the same situation.

My wife got a job offer and the company achieved the LMIA for her. She also obtained a license that is required to work in the field that she wil be working in. After that, we proceeded to apply for a working permit for her, an open-work permit for me and a visitor visa for our 1-year old baby. We provided ALL the supporting documents required to complete the applications and the three of them were denied.

These were the simplified versions of the reasons:

WORKING PERMIT
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
  • I am not satisfied you meet the language requirements for the proposed employment.

OPEN-WORK PERMIT
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

VISITOR
  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

Today I requested the GCMS and as soon as they arrive I'll share it here so others can learn for the mistakes we made.

PS: They didn't ask for proof of funds or ielts test results.
It's very hard to answer your question without knowing your complete profiles and what you submitted with your application.

However based on the refusal reason, it looks like IRCC has concerns that you are planning on remaining in Canada long term (i.e. see this as a permanent move) - rather than temporary.
 

Ivanna1184

Newbie
Sep 23, 2019
5
0
Hi,

My husband also got a refusal letter 3 days ago. Below the stated reasons why:

● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purposes of your visit. - His purpose is to work, he already have an approved LAMIA. What purpose is being referred to here then?
● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of residence. - He is currently employed and plans to resign once the visa is approved.
● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation. - What does this mean?
● You were not able to demonstrate that you will be able to adequately perform the work you seek. - He was approved by the Candian employer meaning he was proved that he is capable.
● You had submitted insufficient third-party proofs of your declared employments (employment history page, etc) including an official letter from the company you are working with listing all the positions that you have occupied. - The agency did not requested for these documents, had we known then we would have complied.

Please help us on what steps do we need to do inorder to reapply.
 

Bs65

VIP Member
Mar 22, 2016
13,190
2,419
Hi,

My husband also got a refusal letter 3 days ago. Below the stated reasons why:

● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purposes of your visit. - His purpose is to work, he already have an approved LAMIA. What purpose is being referred to here then?
● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of residence. - He is currently employed and plans to resign once the visa is approved.
● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation. - What does this mean?
● You were not able to demonstrate that you will be able to adequately perform the work you seek. - He was approved by the Candian employer meaning he was proved that he is capable.
● You had submitted insufficient third-party proofs of your declared employments (employment history page, etc) including an official letter from the company you are working with listing all the positions that you have occupied. - The agency did not requested for these documents, had we known then we would have complied.

Please help us on what steps do we need to do inorder to reapply.
You need to share more information such as what is the job in Canada, what job does he currently perform and how does that relate to planned job Assuming he gets this job in Canada how transferrable are those skills when returning to home country. What qualifications does he have ?
 

Malkeet1

Star Member
Sep 27, 2017
116
21
Hi,

My husband also got a refusal letter 3 days ago. Below the stated reasons why:

● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the purposes of your visit. - His purpose is to work, he already have an approved LAMIA. What purpose is being referred to here then?
● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of residence. - He is currently employed and plans to resign once the visa is approved.
● I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 200(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation. - What does this mean?
● You were not able to demonstrate that you will be able to adequately perform the work you seek. - He was approved by the Candian employer meaning he was proved that he is capable.
● You had submitted insufficient third-party proofs of your declared employments (employment history page, etc) including an official letter from the company you are working with listing all the positions that you have occupied. - The agency did not requested for these documents, had we known then we would have complied.

Please help us on what steps do we need to do inorder to reapply.
When and where from he applied ??
Whic Noc ??
 

Ivanna1184

Newbie
Sep 23, 2019
5
0
You need to share more information such as what is the job in Canada, what job does he currently perform and how does that relate to planned job Assuming he gets this job in Canada how transferrable are those skills when returning to home country. What qualifications does he have ?
He got the job as car painter same as his previous position before he got promoted to Job Controller. He has already an approved LMIA because the employer in Canada already confirmed his application, we are just waiting for his medical results as well as the approved visa, however, as mentioned, he received a refusal letter 3 days ago with those reasons. I am wondering if by mistake the agency ticked the tab for tourist visa instead of working visa, because based on the grounds stated by the embassy, I think those are applicable for tourists. I hope you can help us on what steps do we need to take.
 

Ivanna1184

Newbie
Sep 23, 2019
5
0
When and where from he applied ??
Whic Noc ??
Hi, he applied thru an accredited agency here in the Philippines. My husband is a skilled worker, he got the job as a car painter. The employer in Canada already sent his assigned car dealer/shop which is in Montreal, Quebec. Unfortunately, we received the refusal letter 3 days ago. Kindly help us on what steps do we need to do.
 

bosco2814

Full Member
Jan 5, 2020
31
5
Hi, he applied thru an accredited agency here in the Philippines. My husband is a skilled worker, he got the job as a car painter. The employer in Canada already sent his assigned car dealer/shop which is in Montreal, Quebec. Unfortunately, we received the refusal letter 3 days ago. Kindly help us on what steps do we need to do.
Any update?
 

Ivanna1184

Newbie
Sep 23, 2019
5
0
Any update?
Hi! Its so ironic that you asked for an update on this same day as my husband's flight going to Canada. yep, his about to board the plane now, 7:25 flight. We re-applied for his visa and added more documents, he was approved after 3 months. Thank God.