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[Peacekeeper87]

@Peacekeeper87 @Maxgord

THanks for replying.


So, the situation actually is:

1. Engineering Trainee – Job rotation. DID: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// OPTION: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// [ I think there is no doubt in this one ]
2. Engineering Trainee – Site. DID: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// OPTION: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// [ I think there is no doubt in this one ]
3. Senior Process Analyst: DID: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// OPTION: NOC 1122 Professional occupations in business management consulting, Type A.
4. Procurement Coordinator - Corporate: DID: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// OPTION: NOC 1122 Professional occupations in business management consulting, Type A.
5. Procurement Coordinator - Regional DID: NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) /// OPTION: NOC 0113 (Purchasing managers; type 0)

Link to NOCs:

NOC 2131 (Civil Engineer, type A) -> http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=0&val1=2131&ver=16
NOC 1122 Professional occupations in business management consulting, Type A. -> http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=0&val1=1122&ver=16
NOC 0113 (Purchasing managers; type 0) -> http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=0&val1=0113&ver=16



Descriptions on letters (all in one letter, as it was a single company):



CURRENT POSITION (5)

Job Title: Procurement Coordinator
From: 01-November-2015 - To: current
Duties and responsibilities:
Answered for an annual portfolio of USD 40 MM, divided into materials, equipment and services for the construction sites.
Direct subordinates: 2 coordinators, 8 purchasers, 1 assistant.
Activities: civil construction materials, equipment and services contracting and procurement. Evaluation and decision making on materials, equipments and services for the construction sites. Elaboration of contracts for recurrent procurement. Services procurement, such as earthwork, paving, infrastructure systems, foundation. Standardization of internal processes.




FORMER POSITION 4
Job Title: Procurement Coordinator
From: 01-September-2014 - To: 31-October-2015
Duties and responsibilities:
In charge of the team which provides intelligence and strategic support to the Procurement department.
Direct subordinates: 1 Senior Analyst (Production Engineer), 3 Intermediate Analysts (1 Civil Engineer, 1 Economist and 1 Business Administrator), 1 Assistant (Statistician), 1 Intern (Civil Engineering student).
Activities: definition and generation of databases and KPIs for the Procurement organization. Definition and execution of the main managerial reports. Evaluation of solutions for optimization of services at the construction sites. Sizing of regional procurement teams nationwide according to the construction sites demands. Compliance assurance to internal and external audits. Project Management for the Procurement organization and prioritization of the sector demands. Registration of Work and Trade items in the ERP system.



FORMER POSITION 3

Job Title: Senior Process Analyst
From: 01-April-2013 - To: 31-August-2014
Duties and responsibilities:
Preparation of the main managerial reports of the department. Participation in the definition of the sector’s goals, measurement of the Procurement organization’s results, process improvement and standardization. Evaluation of solutions for optimization of services at the construction sites. Redesign of reports for cost reduction at the construction site.



FORMER POSITION 2

Job Title: Engineering Trainee - Construction Site
From: 01-July-2012 - To: 31-March-2013
Duties and responsibilities:
Purchase Order tracking, services follow-up, calculation of quantities, stock tracking, services sub-contracting scheduling, contractor measuring, project schedule monitoring. Timely scheduling of materials and services to meet project needs.



FORMER POSITION 1


Job Title: Engineering Trainee - Job Rotation
From: 06-February-2012 - To: 30-June-2013
Duties and responsibilities:
Job rotation at company departments related to the construction site: Projects, Designs, Installations, Budget and Costs, Planning and Control, Quality, Technical Assistance, Procurement, Real Estate Development, Personnel Department, Tax Invoices Center, Financial Department, Customer Relationships, Labor Safety, Housing Loan.

It does seem that you should've selected different NOCs for jobs (3), (4), and (5). There is a possibility that these work experiences would require additional review by an officer, as the duties in the letter differ from the NOC duties.

But based on the corrections you gave me for Position (2), starting in July 2013 and ending (I presume) on March 2014, on a more reassuring note:

With just positions (1) and (2), you have 2 years of work experience, you get 11 points out of the 15 FSW eligibility points for work experience. Check CRS calculator to see how many points you'd get with just these two experiences.
Worst case scenario, if the officer rejects jobs (3), (4), and (5) due to NOC mismatch, you'd still have jobs (1) and (2) experiences which you say are the correct NOC. (I think so too)
If this happens, your eligibility and CRS points will be recalculated, and if you're still eligible (minimum 67/100), and you're still above the CRS cut-off for your specific draw, then no worries.

 

[ain88]

How are you guys doing?

Is that true ppr batch is being sent at around 10pm(ottawa time)?

 

[engineer_to_canada]

It does seem that you should've selected different NOCs for jobs (3), (4), and (5). There is a possibility that these work experiences would require additional review by an officer, as the duties in the letter differ from the NOC duties.

But based on the corrections you gave me for Position (2), starting in July 2013 and ending (I presume) on March 2014, on a more reassuring note:

With just positions (1) and (2), you have 2 years of work experience, you get 11 points out of the 15 FSW eligibility points for work experience. Check CRS calculator to see how many points you'd get with just these two experiences.
Worst case scenario, if the officer rejects jobs (3), (4), and (5) due to NOC mismatch, you'd still have jobs (1) and (2) experiences which you say are the correct NOC. (I think so too)
If this happens, your eligibility and CRS points will be recalculated, and if you're still eligible (minimum 67/100), and you're still above the CRS cut-off for your specific draw, then no worries.

Thanks for the reply.
Actually I made 2 mistakes, one in the reference letter (btw: should I reach them for that??) and one in my reply to you.
Actual periods:

# Position From To
1 Engineering Trainee - Job Rotation 6/Feb/2012 30/Jun/2012
2 Engineering Trainee - Construction Site 1/Jul/2012 31/Mar/2013
3 Senior Process Analyst 1/Apr/2013 31/Aug/2014
4 Procurement Coordinator 1/Sep/2014 31/Oct/2015
5 Procurement Coordinator 1/Nov/2015 Current


If they disconsider experiences [3], [4], and [5], I would have just above 1 year of work experience. My Eligibility would go to 73, and my CRS to 448; both above minimum and cut-off for my draw.

This could be comforting, but I don't think it makes sense dropping most of my experience...
I'm really thinking on contacting them. Any thoughts?

 

[vasanthchenna23]

My AOR was received on September 17, 2018, when can I expect my PPR?

 

[vasanthchenna23]

My AOR was received on September 17, 2018, any idea when I could expect to receive the PPR, I have a prospective employer in Canada waiting to roll out an offer letter as soon I have the PPR.

 

[BurglarReturn]

Hi everyone,
I need some help here,

AOR is : 3 Sep - FSW - O - Single applicant
MEP + Biometrics Requested : 27 Sep
ADR: Form 5475
Biometrics given on : 8 Oct
No more updates.

my question is: when I submitted my application for PR my Pof was equal to CAD $15000, a month later the currency underwent a sever devaluation & and the CAD raised from: 1 CAD - 13 SDG during Sep to 1 CAD = 36 in Oct, leaving my PoF to equal now around CAD $5000 ONLY.
I have asking everywhere, some people say that CIC usually sticks to the rate of your AOR, others say that PoFs are VALIDATED on the day the plan to verify your PR Application, and I am really scattered , the country is undergoing a sever cash shortage keeping everyone all to save money in the form of USD or jewelry AT HOME, because banks will not give you the money when we need them. I have more than the needed funds but I can not risk them with the banks.
I have been hearing about a lot of cases of PR on hold for PoF review, and others who received ADR for PoF Update.
is it possible that I will be receiving an ADR for PoF?
many told me not to raise a CSE for PoF & wait till they ask it.
is it possible by ANY MEANS that the officer handling my case will stick to the rate on AOR date? Is there any hope?
thanks everyone & good luck with all your endeavors.

You need to update your POF unless you update they wont process. This happened to my friend he updated ADR couple of days ago

 

[BurglarReturn]

Not really. I know someone who didn't get an ADR and application was refused due to dip in the exchange rate. My advice is raise CSE with updated POF showing new amount and balance. Don't wait for CIC, a mean and angry officer could be treating your file and use that as an excuse to deny your application

Thats correct

 

[BurglarReturn]

Ralph Goodale
Former Member of the Canadian House of Commons !

He stopped responding long back.

 

[Peacekeeper87]

Thanks for the reply.
Actually I made 2 mistakes, one in the reference letter (btw: should I reach them for that??) and one in my reply to you.
Actual periods:

# Position From To
1 Engineering Trainee - Job Rotation 6/Feb/2012 30/Jun/2012
2 Engineering Trainee - Construction Site 1/Jul/2012 31/Mar/2013
3 Senior Process Analyst 1/Apr/2013 31/Aug/2014
4 Procurement Coordinator 1/Sep/2014 31/Oct/2015
5 Procurement Coordinator 1/Nov/2015 Current


If they disconsider experiences [3], [4], and [5], I would have just above 1 year of work experience. My Eligibility would go to 73, and my CRS to 448; both above minimum and cut-off for my draw.

This could be comforting, but I don't think it makes sense dropping most of my experience...
I'm really thinking on contacting them. Any thoughts?

Concerning your mistake:
If there is a discrepancy between what you declared in your EE profile and your employment documents, then yes you should definitely correct it. If the mistake is in the reference letter, you need to provide them with a new one via CSE webform. Don't take too long though! Eligibility usually starts roughly around 80-120 days post-AOR. See if you can upload the new one before application reaches eligibility stage!

Concerning your NOCs:
Unfortunately, these mistakes of wrong NOC selection is quite common. But I really hope it doesn't cause any trouble. There have been numerous cases in the past where experiences were invalidated and CRS/FSW points recalculated. A fairness letter is then issued to inform the applicant of situation if he/she falls below points thresholds.
Thankfully, you have just above 1 year even if they invalidate jobs [3], [4], and [5], lucky you! And I believe the NOC is correct, with correct duties.
I see your CRS and FSW will still remain above thresholds! I think you should be fine!

 

[Peacekeeper87]

My AOR was received on September 17, 2018, any idea when I could expect to receive the PPR, I have a prospective employer in Canada waiting to roll out an offer letter as soon I have the PPR.

March 17th 2019

 

[jiblejin]

Contrary to popular opinion on this thread, I ordered for my GCMS notes around Day 67 after AOR (13/11/2018) and received the notes a few days ago.
Eligibility: Met, Security: Not Started, Criminality: Not Started.

Not surprised that Security and Criminality had not started within 2 months, I was more concerned about meeting eligibility requirements especially my POF.

The only thing I did not understand was an Application Assignment section with a due date of 17 December 2018. Any ideas on what that means?

 

[Evident]

Contrary to popular opinion on this thread, I ordered for my GCMS notes around Day 67 after AOR (13/11/2018) and received the notes a few days ago.
Eligibility: Met, Security: Not Started, Criminality: Not Started.

Not surprised that Security and Criminality had not started within 2 months, I was more concerned about meeting eligibility requirements especially my POF.

The only thing I did not understand was an Application Assignment section with a due date of 17 December 2018. Any ideas on what that means?

Due date is the next time your application will be reviewed by the agent . It's like setting a reminder...criminality should have started before you received your notes, so if you passed your criminality then on the 17th is when they will update the record and move to next step I.e. security. Security takes about 48hrs so your ppr is pretty much close. All the best.

 

[jiblejin]

Due date is the next time your application will be reviewed by the agent . It's like setting a reminder...criminality should have started before you received your notes, so if you passed your criminality then on the 17th is when they will update the record and move to next step I.e. security. Security takes about 48hrs so your ppr is pretty much close. All the best.

Thanks a lot. Makes sense

 

[BA2LAMAZ]

Contrary to popular opinion on this thread, I ordered for my GCMS notes around Day 67 after AOR (13/11/2018) and received the notes a few days ago.
Eligibility: Met, Security: Not Started, Criminality: Not Started.

Not surprised that Security and Criminality had not started within 2 months, I was more concerned about meeting eligibility requirements especially my POF.

The only thing I did not understand was an Application Assignment section with a due date of 17 December 2018. Any ideas on what that means?

Hey! What is your background status as of today and when was the last update/change to it (if any)?

 

[jiblejin]

" we are processing your background check..."

I am not sure of the date of the last update but it was sometime in mid-November.