Can my spouse cancel my PR

[John black]

Hi Everyone
I need you guys opinion. I am a South African citizen.i met someone ,my wife, on a dating site.She is Canadian Citizen. We talked and exchange numbers.After a while she visited me in S.A.. than sometimes later I visited her in Canada and we got married.
I left for S.A. for wrk.
She did my sponsorship. However before that I will be honest....i had fb. And some friends from different countries who I never met. She found out and it was a big deal for her. We talked n deleted my fb for good. Things got to normal. But in her head they didn't.
We carried on with arguments n than up n down.
Sponsorship went ahead. I never bothered about that. Than it ended up at name calling from her.
However I arrived in Canada.From the airport I texted her that I am here. She said she not interested bla bla. I told her than where should I go. She came to fetch me. I was at her place. For 2 days. She said she wants divorce. Because clearly arguments damaged alot. Than we went to speak to her landlord to use him as a shrink.
He said we shouldn't talk for a wk. She said that I could stay at her place while she lives at her dad's. I walked down to the basement. Than next minute the landlord comes down n tells me. Get your stuff together and I should leave.
Not knowing where to. My bags were on the pavement. And I ended up in a motel.
Now i get email from her that she will report me as marriage fraud. And call the police .
What should I do?
Pack up and leave the country. Or go to the police myself.
Please advise if anyone reads this.
Thanks in advance

 

[canuck78]

Have you landed yet or are you still undergoing the sponsorship process?

 

[John black]

I have landed. I am in Canada for now.I have COPR.

 

[1887CAN]

Hi Everyone
I need you guys opinion. I am a South African citizen.i met someone ,my wife, on a dating site.She is Canadian Citizen. We talked and exchange numbers.After a while she visited me in S.A.. than sometimes later I visited her in Canada and we got married.
I left for S.A. for wrk.
She did my sponsorship. However before that I will be honest....i had fb. And some friends from different countries who I never met. She found out and it was a big deal for her. We talked n deleted my fb for good. Things got to normal. But in her head they didn't.
We carried on with arguments n than up n down.
Sponsorship went ahead. I never bothered about that. Than it ended up at name calling from her.
However I arrived in Canada.From the airport I texted her that I am here. She said she not interested bla bla. I told her than where should I go. She came to fetch me. I was at her place. For 2 days. She said she wants divorce. Because clearly arguments damaged alot. Than we went to speak to her landlord to use him as a shrink.
He said we shouldn't talk for a wk. She said that I could stay at her place while she lives at her dad's. I walked down to the basement. Than next minute the landlord comes down n tells me. Get your stuff together and I should leave.
Not knowing where to. My bags were on the pavement. And I ended up in a motel.
Now i get email from her that she will report me as marriage fraud. And call the police .
What should I do?
Pack up and leave the country. Or go to the police myself.
Please advise if anyone reads this.
Thanks in advance

I don’t think this is a police matter at all, unless you’ve committed an actual crime. I’m pretty sure marriage fraud, illegal as it is from an immigration perspective, isn’t in the criminal code. I could be wrong though. If your wife does go to the police, I’m sure they’d refer her to IRCC and have them solely deal with it.

As for the marriage fraud claim, if this is something your wife does pursue, you will absolutely be given an opportunity to respond. This is normally in the form of you receiving a letter from IRCC and being asked to attend an interview. If there’s evidence to back up your wife’s claim and IRCC decide to instigate a removals/deportation process, you’ll be given an immigration hearing before an immigration judge. Only if a judge approves the removal/deportation will any action be taken against you. You are protected by the IRPA, you have rights too.

If you’ve landed, you’re a PR of Canada. You may be waiting for your PR card, but that’s only to allow you entry into Canada again if you leave. Your status as a PR is on the IRCC system and you have all the rights of a PR.

If you’re concerned about your wife’s behaviour, you could even contact IRCC yourself. If you’ve done nothing wrong and your wife’s the instigator in all this, you have the right to be protected too. I’m sure that one partner changing their mind about being married isn’t cause for the other to be deported. I believe that you could leave your wife and still remain as a PR, provided the breakdown of the marriage is genuine and no marriage fraud was committed.

All of this is just based on my opinions and knowledge picked up having read through the processes. I’d speak with a professional immigration consultant to lawyer for any definitive advice. Good luck. I hope everything works out for you.

 

[John black]

I don’t think this is a police matter at all, unless you’ve committed an actual crime. I’m pretty sure marriage fraud, illegal as it is from an immigration perspective, isn’t in the criminal code. I could be wrong though. If your wife does go to the police, I’m sure they’d refer her to IRCC and have them solely deal with it.

As for the marriage fraud claim, if this is something your wife does pursue, you will absolutely be given an opportunity to respond. This is normally in the form of you receiving a letter from IRCC and being asked to attend an interview. If there’s evidence to back up your wife’s claim and IRCC decide to instigate a removals/deportation process, you’ll be given an immigration hearing before an immigration judge. Only if a judge approves the removal/deportation will any action be taken against you. You are protected by the IRPA, you have rights too.

If you’ve landed, you’re a PR of Canada. You may be waiting for your PR card, but that’s only to allow you entry into Canada again if you leave. Your status as a PR is on the IRCC system and you have all the rights of a PR.

If you’re concerned about your wife’s behaviour, you could even contact IRCC yourself. If you’ve done nothing wrong and your wife’s the instigator in all this, you have the right to be protected too. I’m sure that one partner changing their mind about being married isn’t cause for the other to be deported. I believe that you could leave your wife and still remain as a PR, provided the breakdown of the marriage is genuine and no marriage fraud was committed.

All of this is just based on my opinions and knowledge picked up having read through the processes. I’d speak with a professional immigration consultant to lawyer for any definitive advice. Good luck. I hope everything works out for you.

 

[John black]

Thank you very much for your response. She is in no mood of making this relationship work. All what she holds is the fb texts that she claims I should have told her that transpired a year r more ago and we talked about that. And I thought we move on.sponsorship process still went ahead . I have never heard this marriage fraud until recently that she been running my face into it on daily basis. Now she has a problem with my daughter who is 8 and lived with her mom back in S.A.. and have no intentions of ever coming to Canada.

In her email she said ...since I got sponsored on her docs .if I commit any crime in Canada she will get affected. After I was chucked out. I was staying in motel.and now with some room mates.
She is asking me for Divorce. Clearly this relationship is not going anywhere.

A woman who claims to be jealous and love so much don't threaten and insult an individual on daily basis. I am planing to go back to S.A..

When I was at her place she than threaten me to call police and give me divorce . My argument was that things she told me , I can't just swallow. But we wrk on that. She wants a robot and a slave.
I really appericiated your input n you taking time to respond.
Regards

 

[1887CAN]

Thank you very much for your response. She is in no mood of making this relationship work. All what she holds is the fb texts that she claims I should have told her that transpired a year r more ago and we talked about that. And I thought we move on.sponsorship process still went ahead . I have never heard this marriage fraud until recently that she been running my face into it on daily basis. Now she has a problem with my daughter who is 8 and lived with her mom back in S.A.. and have no intentions of ever coming to Canada.

In her email she said ...since I got sponsored on her docs .if I commit any crime in Canada she will get affected. After I was chucked out. I was staying in motel.and now with some room mates.
She is asking me for Divorce. Clearly this relationship is not going anywhere.

A woman who claims to be jealous and love so much don't threaten and insult an individual on daily basis. I am planing to go back to S.A..

When I was at her place she than threaten me to call police and give me divorce . My argument was that things she told me , I can't just swallow. But we wrk on that. She wants a robot and a slave.
I really appericiated your input n you taking time to respond.
Regards

It sounds like a horrible situation to be in. If your marriage can’t be saved, then you need to be legally separated for 12 months before filing for divorce. This I know is fact for Ontario, other provinces may differ.

If there’s no marriage fraud, despite what your wife may say, there shouldn’t be any obligation for you to leave Canada if you don’t want to. You landed legally and hold PR status.

If your wife persists with the claims of fraud, you may have to answer those claims with IRCC, but unless there’s hard proof of fraud, this sounds like a marriage that didn’t work out from the start. That’s life sometimes. You can’t be deported for a failed marriage.

Also to be noted, is that if your wife is being emotionally abusive and using bully-like behaviour, that may make her claims of marriage fraud appear to be nefarious in the view of IRCC. If she’s using that as a fear tactic to control you somehow, I can’t see that going down well with anyone at IRCC. Making false claims like could get her in trouble too.

I would consult professional advice just to check your rights. I have no idea if you have to inform IRCC if you leave to return to South Africa with no intention of returning. There are residency obligations to maintain PR status so that would eventually expire anyway if you left and didn’t return.

Good luck, I hope things work out for you one way or the other.

 

[canvis2006]

She sounds like an unstable person (mentally), you'll find that a lot people are like that these days, specially in Canada. They're mostly fake and superficial.
If you have a good job/career in SA then you can go back and forget Canada and live your life.
Canada is not an easy place specially if u got no support or place to live or lots of money to depend on. It becomes a struggle and dogs life.
Decision is yours.

 

[John black]

Agreed.

Thanks a mil.

 

[John black]

It sounds like a horrible situation to be in. If your marriage can’t be saved, then you need to be legally separated for 12 months before filing for divorce. This I know is fact for Ontario, other provinces may differ.

If there’s no marriage fraud, despite what your wife may say, there shouldn’t be any obligation for you to leave Canada if you don’t want to. You landed legally and hold PR status.

If your wife persists with the claims of fraud, you may have to answer those claims with IRCC, but unless there’s hard proof of fraud, this sounds like a marriage that didn’t work out from the start. That’s life sometimes. You can’t be deported for a failed marriage.

Also to be noted, is that if your wife is being emotionally abusive and using bully-like behaviour, that may make her claims of marriage fraud appear to be nefarious in the view of IRCC. If she’s using that as a fear tactic to control you somehow, I can’t see that going down well with anyone at IRCC. Making false claims like could get her in trouble too.

I would consult professional advice just to check your rights. I have no idea if you have to inform IRCC if you leave to return to South Africa with no intention of returning. There are residency obligations to maintain PR status so that would eventually expire anyway if you left and didn’t return.

Good luck, I hope things work out for you one way or the other.

Thank you for taking time and writing me your input. I really appericiate that. It's just one weird situation that I don't understand myself . I would prefer to be sent back if I am told to live with her.

Life sucks at times. I don't wana bore you with this . I really appericiate. It feels bit better just to talk to someone.
Thanks for your response.
God bless.

 

[1887CAN]

Thank you for taking time and writing me your input. I really appericiate that. It's just one weird situation that I don't understand myself . I would prefer to be sent back if I am told to live with her.

Life sucks at times. I don't wana bore you with this . I really appericiate. It feels bit better just to talk to someone.
Thanks for your response.
God bless.

You’re very welcome, the least anyone can do on a forum like this is to share any advice or experience they have. Sharing and helping is basis of this place’s existence.

I can imagine how hard this situation is, and how tough to deal with it is. You gave up a life thousands of kilometres away to move here to be with someone, and for that person to start acting the way they are is like having the rug pulled from under you.

I’m not an expert on this, but IRCC will not make you live with your wife. As mentioned before, there used to be an obligation for spouses to live together for the first two years after landing. IRCC removed this condition a couple of years ago. You and your wife can proceed with a formal separation and eventually divorce, and you can continue to legally live in Canada. You may have to update your address from the one you provided on landing, as that’s where your PR card will be sent. If the address is where your wife lives, you may not ever see it if she gets it before you do.

If you want to remain in Canada and make a life here, it would appear that it would be without your wife, as you mention that your relationship seems beyond repair now. You are entitled to live here if you’ve not obtained your PR through a fraudulent marriage. If your wife claims this and starts a case with IRCC, you’re free to defend yourself. Simply be honest if you've nothing to hide, it’s the best way to counter any false allegations. She would have to make a very compelling case to have those allegations stick. IRCC will hopefully see straight through any lies. You’re entitled to due process.

I know for a lot of new migrants here, money is tight. There will be settlement services in your local area and they provide free access to consultants and sometimes even lawyers, in order to help people in these situations. If you do wish to stay and you think your wife may cause trouble, getting professional assistance may be prudent.

Good luck, I’m sure things will get better.

 

[John black]

Thanks alot . I really appericiate you taking time n responding to this silly scenario.
I am not trying to portray myself as an angel. However if I make a mistake I have the guts to acknowledge it and apologise for that as well.

She using this marriage fraud thing as a tool to intimidate me and this is not the first time she has done so.

Question is if I know that you are using me for Canada...than the next thing I would do is report immediately and cancel the process. She has not done so either. Every now n than she will use language than the next day I can't live without you. It went on that way.
I have all her texts n chats and recordings the day she chucked me out.

The main reason for that she asked me if I sold my store and apartment. I said I am trying. She said you lying. Than she started to accuse me of my x and my daughter that I want to bring them over.

I love my daughter n she is 8. She lives with her mom. The only communication I have with her is the maintenance money I pay monthly. Thats it .They would never be coming to Canada nor I would ever bring them over.
I am not a rich man. But i can support myself here. Therfore i wonder if its really worth it to be here or I go back. That s what I keep thinking.
That s the whole thing in a nutshell.

I have read stories on the forum where people jump and say ,Mmmm he used a woman to get to Canada. But it's not always the case.

What I would prefer is if this woman really understands the relationship. It's about give n take. Understanding likes n dislikes. Not about hiring a slave, just because he has or had fb. She even deleted my fb coz I gave her the password not knowing she is ....

Anyway I am really waiting for her to report me, and I will have my day in court before I book a flight .

Thank you to all of you great people on this forum who take their time to read people's crap and respond.

Thanks a mil.

 

[Will_PA]

Only you can decide what to do... but if you're stable financially why not give Canada a try for a month or two? You might find a job and a crowd you like. It's a good country You have PR which will expire if you don't use it. And if not now, then when? Good luck!

 

[John black]

Only you can decide what to do... but if you're stable financially why not give Canada a try for a month or two? You might find a job and a crowd you like. It's a good country You have PR which will expire if you don't use it. And if not now, then when? Good luck!

 

[John black]

Thank you. You do have a point there.
Let's see. I will take each day as it comes my way. I appericiate your response.

Regards