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The anatomy of a Background Check? - <<<<<<IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS>>>>>>>

rajanathomas

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Apr 3, 2017
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Hi @legalfalcon
Just wanted a clarification on our GCMS notes which states the following:
Notes 1
Created Date :2018/03/29
Created By:
Updated Date: 2018/03/29
Updated By:
Restricted: NO
Label: Adm/Medical
Office:CPC- Ottawa
Text: New meds required for PA and Dep; please send new meds when all other decisions are passed.

We have completed our re-medicals and it shows passed now. I wanted to know, does the note mean that we have cleared our SS? (From what I understand; we must have cleared our SS. Just needed a confirmation)
Also how long does it take for the PPR mail to be generated? Its been more than a week since our status of Re-Medicals passed has been updated.
TIA.
 
Feb 9, 2017
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Dear Members,
It's been 18 months since I submitted my application for PR. I am CEC outland applicant. I got Procedural Fairness Letter on 15 December 2017 about my employment in Canada. The officer had asked me to provide Paystubs and Bank statements within 30 days time period. I provided all the documents on 10 January 2018. Now it's been more than 6 months since I submitted these additional documents asked by officer but still there is no news.
Could anyone tell me how long does it take for them to finalise my application after sending the additional documents regarding "Procedural Fairness Letter" ??
 

gary007

Hero Member
Nov 12, 2017
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No. It is the day you submit your application that your info is locked. However, if you change your job or are no longer employed, please inform IRCC in case they contact your employer, but the unemployment will have no effect in your application.
Thanks for the reply
I am thinking to change over the job
Should my new job 's NOC should be totally same as of previous one? (I have applied PR. On basis of my previous job whose experience is of 3years) ?
Pls reply
Thanks
Gary
 

Montrealca70

Newbie
Jul 11, 2018
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but I hope so one can hep. I have recently applied for Canada citizenship and from what I know it is on hold because of security and background is not complete. My question is will CIC perform the same exercise as when I applied for PR? Because I have never returned to those countries
 

Elan87

Star Member
Jul 13, 2017
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I have been getting questions on what happens in a BGC a lot in the last few months. Even though in my post, “[A]natomy of an application” available on many threads, I do discuss this briefly, but I felt there was a need for a more exhaustive post. This post in no way accurately depicts the procedures adopted by the CSIS, Canada’s premier security agency, as their procedures are highly confidential and will never be made public. However, this post is an amalgamation of the information publically available, and my personal experiences with working for the governments and law enforcement agencies in different countries.

Since this is a long post and each post cannot be over 10000 characters, I am posting the entire post in replies. The post is alphabetically numbered.

So here it goes:

A. What is CSIS and its mandate?

Before we even venture into looking at how CSIS conducts background checks, it is essential to have a brief knowledge of CSIS and what it does. CSIS in its publication has introduced itself with the following statement:

“With the large number of homeland conflicts throughout the world,
preventing the importation of these conflicts into communities
in Canada is of particular concern to all Canadians.”

The mandate of the CSIS concerning security screening of immigrants is laid down in Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (hereinafter “the IRPA”). Sections 14 and 15 of the CSIS Act authorizes CSIS to provide security assessments for the review of immigration applications to the IRCC. These assessments relate directly to the security inadmissibility criteria contained in the IRPA, with the final decision resting with the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration.

Unlike other intelligence services across the globe, CSIS until early 2000 did not operate on foreign soil and its operations concerned the protection of Canadian national security mainly against internal threats. However, since threats to the security of Canada can come from criminals or terrorists using Canadian soil to perpetrate attacks of terrorist activities, both within Canada and target foreign nations, CSIS was tasked with screening all applicants seeking admission into Canada through IRCC.

CSIS is tasked with conducting security clearance for all applicants in addition the police clearances certificates furnished by the applicants, for all applicants between the ages of 18 and 65 years. The BGC is conducted to detect applicants who are, or have been, involved in espionage, subversion, or terrorism.

The screening of potential immigrants to Canada is a complex process that involves several government departments and agencies such as IRCC, Health Canada, Human Resources Development Canada, and RCMP [Royal Canadian Mounted Police] and CSIS, each of whom has specific responsibilities. A culmination of what these agencies do determines admissibility based on medical, criminality, security etc.

Specifically CSIS, in accordance with section 2 of CSIS Act, that deals with threats to the security of Canada. The IRPA in Division 4, specifically section 34 deals with the inadmissibility based on security, which is assessed by CSIS. Section 34 includes accessing the applicant for the following:

Security

34 (1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible on security grounds for

a) engaging in an act of espionage that is against Canada or that is contrary to Canada’s interests;
b) engaging in or instigating the subversion by force of any government
a. engaging in an act of subversion against a democratic government, institution or process as they are understood in Canada;
c) engaging in terrorism;
d) being a danger to the security of Canada;
e) engaging in acts of violence that would or might endanger the lives or safety of persons in Canada; or
f) being a member of an organization that there are reasonable grounds to believe engages, has engaged or will engage in acts referred to in paragraph (a), (b), (b.1) or (c).

CSIS does what is known as risk management in the processing of security checks on prospective immigrants, role of CSIS focuses on those applicants who, on the basis of analysis and experience, are most likely to present a security risk. The advice provided by the CSIS assists the IRCC in determining whether prospective immigrants are inadmissible persons under the Immigration Act.

The assessment of CSIS is not binding on IRCC, and IRCC independently reviews the CSIS assessment in the final review before the application is approved. This is another reason for the delays, and more on this later.


B. When does your application go to CSIS?


Usually, the Security screening is the last step, but for some applicants, this starts early in the process. These applicants are PNP applicants. This is because a province has nominated them through their internal mechanism, thereby in a way giving them eligibility, and the role of IRCC greatly decreases, unlike FSW, CEC and other application where IRCC has to review every detail to ensure that the applicant meets the program requirement. This is another reason why PNP applications usually tend to be processed faster. More on PNP in another post, which I will post in the next few days.
Dear legalfalcon, hope you are doing well.

I want got few question for you. Well I am a OINP nominated applicant, I got my nomination on December 2017. I got my workpermit supporting my OINP from India this July 2018 and My PR application is already launched on June 2018 but still waiting for the AOR. As per your post you are saying that PNP PR is faster then others types of processing. Could you please kindly guide me that in my case will it take long time for processing of Background check and other checks or will it be faster. I have already started working for my company here in Canada who sponsored me . Kindly suggest me please Thanks a ton in advance.
 

gary007

Hero Member
Nov 12, 2017
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Hi legalfaction
I need some help
Does the NOC has to be totally same while switching to next job when case processing has crossed 6 months and paid RPRF 3 months back?
Pl reply earliest
Thanks
Gary
 

rajanathomas

Full Member
Apr 3, 2017
40
3
This is the reply we got for our CSE raised.
"Thank you for contacting Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

We verified the information you provided and are pleased to inform you that everything appears to be in order with your application.

All the required documents and information have been received by the responsible office for the moment.

Rest assured that you will be informed as soon as a decision is reached or if additional information is needed.

We hope the information provided is helpful in assisting you with your enquiry."

Anyone has any idea what to make out of this reply?
 

payamix

Full Member
Aug 22, 2014
45
1
505 Days since AOR !!!!!!!!!
PNP Outland.
And no any new news execpt medical expired!
AOR 22 March 2017
Medical Passed 17 July 2017
Eligiblity Passed 30 Jun 2017
IP2 since 23 Feb 2018!
PPR....waiting waiting waiting ....
I don't know SS start after Eligibility passed or start after IP2 ?
And why Criminality not start even 3 months after IP2 ?
Thank you
 

GipNav

Star Member
May 21, 2018
101
5
For an in-depth analysis of security read this https://goo.gl/7wQ5CT

Government employees are are a higher threshold of having sensitive information and skill set which could be a threat to Canadian Security. This is not always the case, but since CSIS is not aware as to which branch of the government you are working for or what your role is, they will enquire into it and this would take some additional time. CSIS also wants to ensure that an applicant who has worked for a government is not entering Canada for espionage, or similar activities. Similarly, applicants with prior military service have specialized skills and training in dealing with weapons and explosives, which merits additional security.
Hi Legalfalcon.....I hope you can help me.....I applied for my husband's spousal application last year on August 4th, 2017 and it has now past the 12 months period and I know that the standard processing time is 12 months and I think the reason is because he is a cop in India (Punjab Police)......They sent me his pre-arrival e-mail on May 31st however, on June 14th they asked me to give them a detail about his job which I did on June 17th and till to date, I haven't heard anything back from them....I am really stressed and it's been 15 months that I haven't even seen him.....I can't take leave of absence from work since the company I work for is not allowing me, so I can't go visit him and I can't quit my job since I bought a house recently and have to pay my mortgages...I did the MP inquiry on August 8th, 2018 and they said they are doing his security check and everything else is all cleared....do you by any chance know how long more is it going to take to do the security clearance? Please help me here since I feel like I am stuck and going through anxiety and depression as I don't know who to contact....thanks so much!!
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,030
9,888
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi Legalfalcon.....I hope you can help me.....I applied for my husband's spousal application last year on August 4th, 2017 and it has now past the 12 months period and I know that the standard processing time is 12 months and I think the reason is because he is a cop in India (Punjab Police)......They sent me his pre-arrival e-mail on May 31st however, on June 14th they asked me to give them a detail about his job which I did on June 17th and till to date, I haven't heard anything back from them....I am really stressed and it's been 15 months that I haven't even seen him.....I can't take leave of absence from work since the company I work for is not allowing me, so I can't go visit him and I can't quit my job since I bought a house recently and have to pay my mortgages...I did the MP inquiry on August 8th, 2018 and they said they are doing his security check and everything else is all cleared....do you by any chance know how long more is it going to take to do the security clearance? Please help me here since I feel like I am stuck and going through anxiety and depression as I don't know who to contact....thanks so much!!
The if you are sure that it is stuck in security, then you can consider requesting CBSA and CSIS reports. They will help you know if either of them have concluded their involvement in your case.

Have you also requested GCMS notes?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,030
9,888
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi legalfaction
I need some help
Does the NOC has to be totally same while switching to next job when case processing has crossed 6 months and paid RPRF 3 months back?
Pl reply earliest
Thanks
Gary

After you submit your application, your application is locked and you can change your job to any NOC, it is irrelevant.
 
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GipNav

Star Member
May 21, 2018
101
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The if you are sure that it is stuck in security, then you can consider requesting CBSA and CSIS reports. They will help you know if either of them have concluded their involvement in your case.

Have you also requested GCMS notes?
Yes, I am sure it's stuck in secutiry screening and No I haven't requested the GCMS notes....just not sure how to do request them.....and how do I contact CBSA? will they be giving me a details on where the security screening is at and how long more it will take? please let me know and thanks so much for your prompt reply...I appreciate your help very much!!
 

gary007

Hero Member
Nov 12, 2017
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After you submit your application, your application is locked and you can change your job to any NOC, it is irrelevant.
Thanks legalfaclon
One more thing in my case eligibity ans security check have not been initiated yet
AOR: Dec 20 2017
Can u please let me know if both process go altogether? And any idea how much time do they take?
 

ZK45

Star Member
May 3, 2018
152
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Hello @legalfalcon ,

I’ve been searching everywhere on the internet to get some help or advice on my case and I came across your posts here, it seems you can help.
I’m a Canadian citizen and I applied in land for spousal sponsorship for my husband who lives in Pakistan. We applied June 2017, and received pre arrival services letter on January 30, 2018 .
We contacted the London visa office last month for an update on our file and they said it’s currently going through routine background checks. It’s been more than 6 months since our background check is in process. There are no red flags in our case. I don’t understand why the background check is taking so long.
What do you suggest I should do ? Any advice would be really appreciated.

Thanks
 
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