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EE Processing Time Calculator & General Statistics

rohansekhri

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redfox05 said:
Well, CIC themselves "hope" for 6 months.

I feel bad for being so blunt, so I'll give you my own hopes below. They are just hopes though!

Now be very careful with what I say next. Roughly, and I mean roughly, checking out some of the spreadsheets on the forum, I personally am going with the idea that most EE FSW applications take 3-5 months (based on very little data, so a big guess!) So to be on the safe side, at a total rough guess, I am going to take the 6 months CIC aim, and add 2 more months. So im hoping for 8 months. But seriously, it could be 12 months or more, who knows :p Just search the forum, there is a thread that details people who have actually been waiting longer than 6 months. So it does happen that its longer.

Thats why I was hesitant to give an answer, as its just so unknown. And this visa stuff is life changing. I would hate to get someone's hopes up for a 3 month turnaround, and then find out that their application took more than 6 months...

But, just keep reading the forum, find out more info, and make your own mind up, just take it all with a pinch of salt :)

Hope that helped at least a little :)
Isn't 6 months the standard deadline by which the entire process should be over? 3-4 months was the average for most FSW candidates when CIC had a backlog from the previous years. That was cleared somewhere at the end of Nov or early Dec'15. Ideally, the processing times should drop. Is that the FSW Inland candidates are getting processed faster than Outland? Any observations on that?
 

redfox05

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rohansekhri said:
Isn't 6 months the standard deadline by which the entire process should be over? 3-4 months was the average for most FSW candidates when CIC had a backlog from the previous years. That was cleared somewhere at the end of Nov or early Dec'15. Ideally, the processing times should drop. Is that the FSW Inland candidates are getting processed faster than Outland? Any observations on that?
Search the forum. Some people have been waiting longer than 6 months. 6 months is not a guaranteed deadline. Try searching the CIC site, it won't say that anywhere, but please correct me if you find something.

6 months is their "aim".

And they quoted in their stats for London office BEFORE express entry, 30 something months!! That was like 2-3 years! I know someone who waited 5 years.

So this new system is great :p
 

rohansekhri

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redfox05 said:
Search the forum. Some people have been waiting longer than 6 months. 6 months is not a guaranteed deadline. Try searching the CIC site, it won't say that anywhere, but please correct me if you find something.

6 months is their "aim".

And they quoted in their stats for London office BEFORE express entry, 30 something months!! That was like 2-3 years! I know someone who waited 5 years.

So this new system is great :p
I just checked it here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp

They haven't mentioned anything about trying n stuff, although clicking on the "?" does say something. But 6 months start after receiving the complete application package.. so I'm guessing 6 months from the AOR. :)
 

rajkamalmohanram

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rohansekhri said:
I just checked it here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp

They haven't mentioned anything about trying n stuff, although clicking on the "?" does say something. But 6 months start after receiving the complete application package.. so I'm guessing 6 months from the AOR. :)
This is the verbiage on the IRCC website -

Citizenship and Immigration Canada will process the majority of complete applications (meaning those with all the necessary supporting documents) in six months or less.
Here's the link ---> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/ . Scroll towards the bottom of the page.
 

redfox05

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rajkamalmohanram said:
This is the verbiage on the IRCC website -

Here's the link ---> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/ . Scroll towards the bottom of the page.
Yup, majority being the key word. Just take it all with a pinch of salt and prepare for all eventualities. That's all you can do. Do a plan for what you'll do if it takes 3 months. Another for 6, and maybe even for longer....?
 

rajkamalmohanram

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redfox05 said:
Yup, majority being the key word. Just take it all with a pinch of salt and prepare for all eventualities. That's all you can do. Do a plan for what you'll do if it takes 3 months. Another for 6, and maybe even for longer....?
Precisely. A few applicants have crossed the 6 month period and are still awaiting a decision on their application.
 

bellaluna

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This page says that the 6 month processing guarantee starts from the time the completeness check is done, rather than the automatic AOR:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

The Express Entry six-month processing standard begins when an application is assessed as complete and is promoted in the Global Case Management System (GCMS).
 

Aragorn165

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This is important, I saw this on the CIC website:

Since Express Entry is a new system and not enough applications have been received yet, processing times are not available but we have committed to process the majority of applications in six months or less.
They do commit to six months or less, but they don't commit to it for all applications.
I'd say likelier than not, the average application shouldn't take longer than 4-6 months- extreme fringe cases exist, yes, but they are not representative of the average applicant's experience.
 

fkl

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Too many factors affect processing times and things vary greatly between one applicant to another. Many times an application is delayed for reasons beyond CIC's control.

Background checks are just one examples of such situations. Where a person matching a name with some one on some list or just having a common name or belonging to a country on the watch list could cause these delays. In such cases there is no way CIC can meet their timelines. Rest assured it is safe to say 80% or more are done within six months as of curren trends. A good chunk of that takes much less time.

However, there is a separate thread going on for those waiting 6 months or longer. I have seen one person who got ITA in the first draw - Jan 30, 2015 and he is still not through until a couple weeks ago. Apparently he didn't get any reason for that either, just in process. I am certain there are many others in the unfortunate scenario.
 

nard

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When am I going to get my PR?!
 

redfox05

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nard said:
AOR: Feb 2, 2017
Medical passed: Feb 28, 2017
Background check in progress: Feb 28, 2017

When am I going to get my PR?!
Nard,

Last post on this thread was a year ago!! Feb 2016. Why are you replying an old thread like this?!

Create a new post with your question or reply to a newer more relevant one.

And your AOR was in Feb 2017. Are you seriously asking when you will get your PR? You've still got ages to go. Read the forum properly before asking questions like this. Even just read the above messages.
 

Jeksis

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Express Entry has been out for 9 months already but there is still no detailed statistics available on it. I used data inputs from users of this forum and came up with 2 dashboards:
1. EE Processing Time Calculator.
How to use it. There are 3 parameters at the top. Pick category that you have applied under, current status of your application and date when your application moved to this status. The report will calculate how much time you have to wait before PPR. It also provides processing times distribution for other users who were with same status and how much they had to wait. There is also rejection summary in the end.
2. General statistics.
This dashboard has one parameter in the left upper corner (you can pick Category). First graph shows # Decisions per day. Note that it says Decisions and not PPR because decision can be negative (rejection) or positive (PPR). First graph (and other ones on this dashboard) include rejected cases.
Second graph Processing Time Distribution shows how Min/Avg/Max processing time has changed in the course of the year.



Here are some quick conclusions from the reports:
1. FSWP is the most popular category. However, it seemed like people who applied from outside of Canada got their cases processed faster than the people who apply from inside. So I separated FSWP applicants into FSWP Inside and FSWP Outside. Dashboard confirms that outsiders get their cases processed faster than insiders by approximately 25 days.
2. There were some lucky applicants in May and June who got their cases processed fast but in latest months July and August we see that processing time increased significantly for all categories. The reason might be that CIC is now backlogged with new EE applications and processing time might be increasing for next several months. However,
3. All of the cases are processed within advertised 180 days.
4. Chances of rejection decrease significantly once application goes ECAS In Process.
5. FST and PNP are not popular with EE. So unpopular that there is just not enough data to plot on both dashboards. So I had to remove PNP and FST from the reports. It actually would be nice if someone went through the forum threads and gathered more data for processing times. I've already spent around 20 hours on developing the dashboards and collecting data and I am already sick from scanning dozens of pages on the forum and reading other people profiles. More about how you can help to improve these reports below.



About the dataset itself.

I took March and April applicants spreadsheets from the forum and combined them together. Also I went through Rejections thread to collect more info on cases that were rejected.
The final spreadsheet has around 150 rows (cases) and contains only applicants who a) received PPR; b) were rejected.
People who have not received decision on their case are not included in the dataset.



How can you help to improve the dashboards?

1. Play with the reports and tell me what else would you like to see. What kind of reports is community looking for? I will develop them.
2. The main problem with the dataset is that there is not enough data. It would be nice if someone could go through May, June, July ... threads and collect data there. Here is the Excel file that is used as a source for the reports. Go download it, fill more data in, and send me. I will add new rows into the report.
Thank you for this tool.

Wondering if it is updated for use in current year (2017), as I see it was created some time back?

Also, wondering what is difference between 'AOR Received' and 'ECAS Application Received' options in the calculator?

Please if anyone is aware of other calculators or means to estimate CIC PR processing time, kindly share. Thanks.
 
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songxp

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Sep 27, 2017
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Just wondering if there's anyone updating this tool/database for processing time stats in 2017?

I submitted my profile in June, I know it's only been 3 months, but I'm kinda curious to know what's the average processing time now.

Thanks...
 

Jeksis

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Mar 5, 2017
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2171
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17-07-2017
Doc's Request.
24-08-2017
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None
AOR Received.
17-07-2017
IELTS Request
24-08-2017
Med's Done....
26-07-2017
Passport Req..
06-11-2017
LANDED..........
02-12-2017