can self employment be counted as work experience under FSW

[jaymax]

One more question, how about the time can't be prove with a letter from clients?

For example i can be spending 20 hours per week with a client, but other 40 promoting my business, paperwork, accounting... how to prove that?

Other example, open a company in August and get first customer that give you +30 hours week work in November. How about the time working from August to November? can't count as work experience?

Thanks

When you work with a client, and hand him the bill its not just for the services rendered but also for the extra overheads. Also its quite normal that if you have your own business you will need to spend time on paperwork, accounting etc. But it should not be a case where you spend 10 hours on clients and 50 hours on support in a week.

Show your work history with Agreements, Bills raised for services delivered, receipt copies, bank statements (that tally that payments from receipts for bills were actually put in a bank account). It would be great if you got letters from clients as well

 

[IgnacioValls]

When you work with a client, and hand him the bill its not just for the services rendered but also for the extra overheads. Also its quite normal that if you have your own business you will need to spend time on paperwork, accounting etc. But it should not be a case where you spend 10 hours on clients and 50 hours on support in a week.

Show your work history with Agreements, Bills raised for services delivered, receipt copies, bank statements (that tally that payments from receipts for bills were actually put in a bank account). It would be great if you got letters from clients as well

Thank you, yes i got letter from clients (Not from all, but enough) showing working hours/week, payments, duties and project dates. I also got receipts, bank statements, proposals/contracts with clients.

So no problem with that. Is just the 3 months before i got the first client, i do not know if i should count my working experience since that, or since the moment i got the first client (35 hours/week). Actually this 3 months are important as can give me 2 or 3 years experience.

 

[jaymax]

Thank you, yes i got letter from clients (Not from all, but enough) showing working hours/week, payments, duties and project dates. I also got receipts, bank statements, proposals/contracts with clients.

So no problem with that. Is just the 3 months before i got the first client, i do not know if i should count my working experience since that, or since the moment i got the first client (35 hours/week). Actually this 3 months are important as can give me 2 or 3 years experience.

Stay conservative. Stick to something that wont raise red flags or questions. If you feel 3 months cannot be justified better not mention them and avoid issues later.

 

[IgnacioValls]

Stay conservative. Stick to something that wont raise red flags or questions. If you feel 3 months cannot be justified better not mention them and avoid issues later.

Yeah i think that's the best, so for the working experience i claim, i should prove +30 hours per week i guess. For example:

One client from January 1st - March 31st - 20 hours/week
Other client from February 1st - March 31st - 20 hours/week

I guess will only count from February 1st to March 31st (2 months) cause the month if January was only 20h/week.

I am right?

 

[jaymax]

Yeah i think that's the best, so for the working experience i claim, i should prove +30 hours per week i guess. For example:

One client from January 1st - March 31st - 20 hours/week
Other client from February 1st - March 31st - 20 hours/week

I guess will only count from February 1st to March 31st (2 months) cause the month if January was only 20h/week.

I am right?

Make sure everything adds up. If you have bills in Jan but you are claiming Feb it will be a huge task to explain. So better make a thorough check before submitting.

 

[IgnacioValls]

I know but if the bills in january are from a customer that i spend 20h/week (no full time) i can't claim that month, right?

Other case is a 6 month project. Where the 50% is paid as deposit on start and the rest once finish. There is only 2 receipt in for example January and June, but this half year have been working 35h/week and have contract+client letter with all this info. That's ok?

 

[capt.nemo]

I don't think it says that. Part time work also counts. It is full time equivalency that matters.

 

[munjal]

Hi,
I have left my job in May-2014 and worked as a freelancer for few months then started own business.
But could not do well in these 18 months.

So, very few bills from clients.
In this case, Can I show 2 years as unemployed?
Will it make any adverse impact on my CIC PR application?

 

[munjal]

No adverse impact as long as you meet all program eligibility requirements and can still get enough points to receive an ITA.

thank dan_and for your reply..
Yes, I am meeting all program eligibility requirements..

So, as per your advice.. I can declare that I was not employed for the period of last two years..

pls confirm

 

[munjal]

In your EE profile, you can leave out the past two years from the work experience section because you can't get any references for it. This way, CIC won't ask for the references and you will not receive any points for it.

After receipt of your ITA, you must declare what you were doing during that time frame in the personal history section. I would advise you answer truthfully that you were self-employed during that time.

That's very much clear now..
but I have not earned much during this self-employment period..
as per previous posts from few other members in this thread.. they mentioned about client agreements and bills/invoices, I will be able to produce only few bills and client agreements..
so will it be okay?

 

[aniket2789]

Hi I am A dentist and self employed since 2010 ie 6 years. I have patients who pay me in cash. So it is difficult to show client transactions as i would deposit cash once in 15 days in my savings account.. But I have transactions in bank where I pay for lab bills and other dental materials with their bills. Also I have rent agreements for the past 4 years for my office , business registration certificate from 2010 to 2017 and telephone bills. I am the spouse of principal applicant. what documents do I need to show for my self employment. Please help?

 

[munjal]

For employment mentioned in the personal history section only, no proof whatsoever is required because you won't receive any points for it.

Thanks a ton bro for your valuable inputs..

 

[Mishkawy]

Ok this is making me nervous now.

I am claiming points for being the manager of a multimedia studio which I co-own. (I guess that counts as self-employment)

The documents I have are:
1- Commercial registration certificate.
2- Tax card
Both are in my name as the manager.

I can also get my partners (one of them is my mother and the other is not related) to sign my experience letter, and will attach their business cards.

The problem is that we just get paid in cash, I have money coming and going in my bank account, but it is a personal bank account, I just get paid in cash and sometimes I put this cash in my bank account.
So for someone who only gets paid in cash what should I do?
I have been managing the company since 2011.
If I am able to find a couple of receipts here and there, how many should be there to attach to the LOE?

I really need any help I can find guys.

 

[AM85]

Ok this is making me nervous now.

I am claiming points for being the manager of a multimedia studio which I co-own. (I guess that counts as self-employment)

The documents I have are:
1- Commercial registration certificate.
2- Tax card
Both are in my name as the manager.

I can also get my partners (one of them is my mother and the other is not related) to sign my experience letter, and will attach their business cards.

The problem is that we just get paid in cash, I have money coming and going in my bank account, but it is a personal bank account, I just get paid in cash and sometimes I put this cash in my bank account.
So for someone who only gets paid in cash what should I do?
I have been managing the company since 2011.
If I am able to find a couple of receipts here and there, how many should be there to attach to the LOE?

I really need any help I can find guys.

I would suggest consult an immigration lawyer/consultant. Not too many people on the forums have an exact idea. A couple of people who posted valuable information here are apparently no longer active.

My situation is somewhat similar, I also co-own a business since 2011. All money that has come into the bank has been in the name of the firm I'm a partner in. Even if I get letters from most of my clients, they'll be in the name of the firm and not me ans an individual. I'm from New Delhi, India and I'll most likely be visiting a consultant soon to discuss this. I'll also bring up what you are going through and see what they have to offer. I'll post it on the forums as soon as I get something.

In the meanwhile, let's hope some replies come for our kind of queries on the forum

 

[kryt0n]

Ok this is making me nervous now.

I am claiming points for being the manager of a multimedia studio which I co-own. (I guess that counts as self-employment)

The documents I have are:
1- Commercial registration certificate.
2- Tax card
Both are in my name as the manager.

I can also get my partners (one of them is my mother and the other is not related) to sign my experience letter, and will attach their business cards.

The problem is that we just get paid in cash, I have money coming and going in my bank account, but it is a personal bank account, I just get paid in cash and sometimes I put this cash in my bank account.
So for someone who only gets paid in cash what should I do?
I have been managing the company since 2011.
If I am able to find a couple of receipts here and there, how many should be there to attach to the LOE?

I really need any help I can find guys.

You need at least 3 letters from clients/customers outlining your services. Include those with as much evidence as possible.