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Toward Understanding Bill C-6 to Amend Citizenship Act; new 3/5 rule plus

Ahmed Reda

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Diplomatru said:
Hello Raj,

under the current law (SCCA):
You must be physically present for at least 1,460 days in 6 years.
You must also be physically present for at least 183 days in any four of these 6 years.

Under the future law (An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act):
You must be physically present for at least 1095 days in 5 years.

In both cases, staying overseas for 90 days does not make you ineligible.
I believe I have read earlier that the last year before applying for citizinship should be in FULL!
 

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-immigration-levels-plan-2016-1.3479764

in the first video Minister says about processing times..... I hope that includes citizenship processing times as well....
 

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any idea when this new bill of reducing 4 years of physical presence to 3 years which also includes time spent as a non permanent resident?
 

samjammer

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FYI

Bill C-6

An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act
Status: Second reading (House), as of March 10, 2016

Go to openparliament and search bill c-6. It is the first link.
You will see the discussion.
 

samjammer

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samjammer said:
FYI

Bill C-6

An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act
Status: Second reading (House), as of March 10, 2016

Go to openparliament and search bill c-6. It is the first link.
You will see the discussion.

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One more thing to add to it is NDP as well as other party support it as per the debate.
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HighFive said:
Folks, when they supposed to start 3rd reading today? 11 AM ET??
The bill is still going through second reading. The second reading will finish either this afternoon or tomorrow morning, depending on how much they'll be on time today. Second reading means that people debate the bill as a whole.
THEN the second reading is over and the bill is sent to the committee for detailed consideration. After that, the third reading will take place where the bill is passed by the House.
The second reading is usually the longest reading, since that is where the "classic" debate happens.
 

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Hi fellows, especially seniors, may I ask whether it is possible that the pre-PR residence time, 6 years for me, will be credited for citizenship application? If yes, when will it start, from 2016? Thanks for ur clarification.
 

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gavin_cic said:
Hi fellows, especially seniors, may I ask whether it is possible that the pre-PR residence time, 6 years for me, will be credited for citizenship application? If yes, when will it start, from 2016? Thanks for ur clarification.
you will only get at most 1 year of pre-PR credit if the bill passes, or zero if you became PR 5 years ago
 

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itsmyid said:
you will only get at most 1 year of pre-PR credit if the bill passes, or zero if you became PR 5 years ago
Thx a lot for your time and reply!!
 

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Hi, The second reading of the Bill passed on 21 March. YES( FAVOR): 226 NO: 90.
That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.
 

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galant said:
Hi, The second reading of the Bill passed on 21 March. YES( FAVOR): 226 NO: 90.
That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.
Nice, its moving forward - at least for now,

one step at a time :)
 

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While I have avoided, and for the most part will continue to do so, the guessing game as to when certain provisions in Bill C-6 (like the 3/5 rule, which is the one of most interest here) will come into force, I would caution against planning based on an expectation of when the 3/5 rule will apply. There are, for example, many reasons why the 3/5 provisions might not come into force anytime soon. The logistics of implementing any change like this are daunting (it took the Conservatives nearly a full year, despite how important it was to Harper and company to get the longer and more strict qualifications implemented), and most of what needs to be done to implement the changes cannot be done until after the Bill becomes law (spending government money and resources without a legal basis is generally frowned upon -- although, allocation of resources could be explicitly included in the budget, which when adopted becomes law, so as to begin the work sooner, but this is not likely).

But also, as many have been referencing, there is likely to be a flood of new applications almost immediately after the 3/5 rule takes effect, and the government is almost certain to more or less carefully choreograph the transition to be prepared, as much as practically feasible, for this.

In contrast, the Bill itself is more or less likely to proceed through the process fairly quickly, subject to potential stalling by the Senate, given that (1) adopting Bill C-6 into law will demonstrate the government is fulfilling its election campaign promises, even if parts do not actually come into force until much later; and (2) there appears to be some urgency in getting the repeal of Subsection 10.(2) in the Citizenship Act done, which is one of the provisions in Bill C-6 which will take force as soon as there is Royal Assent (thus effecting the a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian policy).

In sum: I would caution against expecting the 3/5 rule to take effect any time soon no matter how quickly Bill C-6 is adopted.
 

tyl92

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Guys , i think we're just hurting ourselves with all those speculations as to when it'd come into force , supposed extra delays , talking about ircc budget and all that .. the thing is no one is right or wrong , we JUST don't know . Nobody even insisted about the unfair clause restoring credit pre-PR time , or that major clause about stripping the citizenship away . I sincerely think that those 2 causes are really the most important details about bill c-6 . There will always be huge delays whether it's bill c24 or bill c6 , budget is a capital factor and it seems that they don't want to move on with their time compared to other government agencies where technology made them work faster , more efficiently and with short delays ( CRA for example ) . They moved faster to process thousands of refugees . Don't forget that they have just been elected and they're already coming forward with bill c-6 , if it'S not a political move to gain more voters in four years ( which would make a lot of people eligible and some of them refugees ) then why would they rush right now a couple of months after . Because if JT and his team are not convincing with the whole situation we're going through with the economy and all that , they'll lose next time and the whole point of bill c-6 will have been pointless .Politics is just about business