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waqar.ahmad150

Hero Member
Jan 31, 2013
238
10
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-02-2015 (Online)
Passport Req..
22-02-2015
VISA ISSUED...
06-05-2015 (Multiple 4 Years)
LANDED..........
Landed
FreeHelp4Pakistanis said:
AOA
All members,
Today I got 3 years TRV with multiple entries by the help of Allah.

I am really so so so much thankful to waqar.ahmad150, who really provided me full support and guidance in each step from preparing to submission docs.
Waqar Ahmad I really respect your suggestions and guidance which were remarkable in my case.

My timeline was from 29th June 2013 to 14th Sep 2013
Note: My application was paper based and sent by TCS.
Thanks W.Ahmad
Many many congratulation for your visa.
Remember me into prayers.
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
3,351
218
Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
NOC Code......
2173/4
ch.immigration said:
thanks for ur reply dear I ll reapply after a month or at end of oct
Congrats to those who got visas.

@Ch.immigration, i am sorry to hear about your case. Let me add what i think can help.

Applying online or on paper doesn't matter in terms of acceptance or refusal. But it is likely that online app is processed faster (acceptance or refusal - comes relatively quickly), plus your originals are not held in the embassy for long. Also, if application is incomplete for some reason, you would know instantaneously.

First you should get GCMS notes to know the precise reason. If you know some one in Canada on whose address notes can be delivered you can get those for free. Also there is some on on this forum who helps other with getting those notes without any charges. Wait, you yourself are in canada so you can get those.

It is true that there is no restriction about how soon you reapply. But one should apply when there is some change in circumstances or you feel there was some important assumption by VO which you can sufficiently clarify. Lastly, reapplying too soon without some obvious immediate need to be there appears suspicious to VO in terms of how keen you are to go there and stay.

I would recommend first looking at GCMS notes, if you see something plainly obvious for e.g. you missed some document which gives clear evidence of an area VO found missing and you are submitting that again, then re-apply immediately. Else wait for a couple months.

Lastly, i am not sure but if you are on a work permit or something in a skilled category and your spouse is working here, why don't you apply for an open work permit for her instead. OWP has better chances because it shows a person's profile in detail like educational qualifications, job details etc. and stands a better chance of approval compared to trv in my opinion.

Just FYI me and all of my colleagues who went already applied for open work permits for their spouses and every one has gotten approval so far.
All the best.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
FreeHelp4Pakistanis said:
AOA
All members,
Today I got 3 years TRV with multiple entries by the help of Allah.

I am really so so so much thankful to waqar.ahmad150, who really provided me full support and guidance in each step from preparing to submission docs.
Waqar Ahmad I really respect your suggestions and guidance which were remarkable in my case.

My timeline was from 29th June 2013 to 14th Sep 2013
Note: My application was paper based and sent by TCS.
congrates
can u plz tell us on wat basis u apply?
Thanks
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
3,351
218
Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
NOC Code......
2173/4
sarah123 said:
Hi, How come the TRV rejection remarks from VO are written in the GCMS notes. I never heard anything like that. My hubby applied for his TRV from Singapore and he got rejected with the reason '' family ties in Canada' . But we didnt apply our case till that time. We had the refusal letter and it shows the UCI no and also a application no starting from V*********. Can we use this info to get his GCMS notes for his Temp Resident Case. In that case can I apply for his GCMS notes for that TRV refusal case or he can apply himself.
Kindly reply soon as we also want to reapply for TRV next month. Thanks
Just FYI for those who do not know, the reasons written on standard refusal are very very generic. They are written specifically to cover all possible scenarios for justifying VO rather than to specifically pin point the actual cause. Hence GCMS notes are really helpful and one should always consult them after refusal.

To give you a concrete example, GCMS notes are very straight forward compared to a generic political answer. It has things like "claimed job experience in area x of y years, but experience letters didnt support that" or "working in x in Pakistan but wants to go to work in y area which is in fact considered a lower level job than x" etc.
 

ch.immigration

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
701
16
Category........
Visa Office......
islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
march 2013 for wife
Doc's Request.
Sent volunterily on 15 dec 2013
AOR Received.
april 2013
File Transfer...
april 2013
Med's Request
24 sep 2014
Interview........
inshallah waived
fkl said:
Congrats to those who got visas.

@ Ch.immigration, i am sorry to hear about your case. Let me add what i think can help.

Applying online or on paper doesn't matter in terms of acceptance or refusal. But it is likely that online app is processed faster (acceptance or refusal - comes relatively quickly), plus your originals are not held in the embassy for long. Also, if application is incomplete for some reason, you would know instantaneously.

First you should get GCMS notes to know the precise reason. If you know some one in Canada on whose address notes can be delivered you can get those for free. Also there is some on on this forum who helps other with getting those notes without any charges. Wait, you yourself are in canada so you can get those.

It is true that there is no restriction about how soon you reapply. But one should apply when there is some change in circumstances or you feel there was some important assumption by VO which you can sufficiently clarify. Lastly, reapplying too soon without some obvious immediate need to be there appears suspicious to VO in terms of how keen you are to go there and stay.

I would recommend first looking at GCMS notes, if you see something plainly obvious for e.g. you missed some document which gives clear evidence of an area VO found missing and you are submitting that again, then re-apply immediately. Else wait for a couple months.

Lastly, i am not sure but if you are on a work permit or something in a skilled category and your spouse is working here, why don't you apply for an open work permit for her instead. OWP has better chances because it shows a person's profile in detail like educational qualifications, job details etc. and stands a better chance of approval compared to trv in my opinion.

Just FYI me and all of my colleagues who went already applied for open work permits for their spouses and every one has gotten approval so far.
All the best.
A big thanks for ur detailed reply
I m citizen here more than 20 years now
doing a full time job for five years at a same place

I dnt knw abt open.work permit
if u plz send me some links where I can get a guidance for OPW

I m not sure that after rejection of trv can I apply for another category
like open work permit or study permit

Really thanks for all ur help
I ll order notes as soon as possible but r u sure that I csn order tgem on behalf of my wife
 

sarah123

Hero Member
Apr 24, 2013
314
10
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
ISBD / LONDON
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 2012
File Transfer...
2013
Med's Request
Not Yet
Med's Done....
Expired
Interview........
Hopefully No
Passport Req..
Insha Allah Soon
VISA ISSUED...
Insha Allah Soon
LANDED..........
Insha Allah Soon
fkl said:
Just FYI for those who do not know, the reasons written on standard refusal are very very generic. They are written specifically to cover all possible scenarios for justifying VO rather than to specifically pin point the actual cause. Hence GCMS notes are really helpful and one should always consult them after refusal.

To give you a concrete example, GCMS notes are very straight forward compared to a generic political answer. It has things like "claimed job experience in area x of y years, but experience letters didnt support that" or "working in x in Pakistan but wants to go to work in y area which is in fact considered a lower level job than x" etc.
Dear fkl, Do I need a consent from my hubby to pply for GCMS notes of his TRV refusal and one more thing the refusal is almost 10 months old. Can we still order notes for it?
 

layla.bee

Hero Member
Jul 26, 2013
396
5
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2009
Doc's Request.
Aug 2013
AOR Received.
Dec 2013
IELTS Request
Not Req'd
File Transfer...
Jan 2014
Med's Request
Jun 25, 2015
Med's Done....
Jun 26, 2015
Interview........
N/A, Addition Doc Request: Jul24, Doc sent and rec'd by CIC: Aug 14, 2015
Passport Req..
Waiting
ch.immigration said:
Today my wife receive a courier via tcs
They rejected her trv for the same reasons
home ties/travel history
end of my hopes ...
applied on 16 july
It is really sad. Be patient. Do not apply for atleast 2-3 months.
 

layla.bee

Hero Member
Jul 26, 2013
396
5
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2009
Doc's Request.
Aug 2013
AOR Received.
Dec 2013
IELTS Request
Not Req'd
File Transfer...
Jan 2014
Med's Request
Jun 25, 2015
Med's Done....
Jun 26, 2015
Interview........
N/A, Addition Doc Request: Jul24, Doc sent and rec'd by CIC: Aug 14, 2015
Passport Req..
Waiting
On Saturday, my mom also received the call from TCS, and got her visa. She got 4 yrs multiple entry. She applied via TCS, paper based application on June 27th, 2013. Visa was issued on Sep 12, and she got a call from TCS on 14th. The TCS personnel told my mother that they are receiving a lot of rejections for TRV these days.
 

afgkab

Newbie
Sep 11, 2013
6
0
Dear Waqar,

Please see below my response to your questions.

1) Telecom operator
2) IFRS Technical Update course
3) No – First time for such course, no conferences
4) I traveled to Dubai for some financial courses only, based on my old passport which I lost it a year ago, so I stated in my application that I never travel to any country.
5) I am Manager Accounts. I have 7-8 years of experience)
6) List of docs: Copy of CNIC, Original Passport, two photos, Travel History Form, IMM5257E, IMM5484E, IMM5645E, Invitation letter, Employer letter, Payslip, Bank statement, online travel itinerary which is not returned with application back.

Moreover IMM5257E & IMM5484E, IMM5645E are not returned. Only IMM5257B_1 for spouse is returned.

1. I am married and have a child, good job & study in graduate program
2. Purpose was attending the course
3. Contents of the course is relevant with my job, however I didn't attend such courses before)
4. I attached my own bank statement, had a balance of $8000. I can’t send them company bank statements its hundred million dollars business and are confidential.
 

anmol123

Star Member
Aug 1, 2012
106
0
FreeHelp4Pakistanis said:
AOA
All members,
Today I got 3 years TRV with multiple entries by the help of Allah.

I am really so so so much thankful to waqar.ahmad150, who really provided me full support and guidance in each step from preparing to submission docs.
Waqar Ahmad I really respect your suggestions and guidance which were remarkable in my case.

My timeline was from 29th June 2013 to 14th Sep 2013
Note: My application was paper based and sent by TCS.
 

anmol123

Star Member
Aug 1, 2012
106
0
FreeHelp4Pakistanis said:
AOA
All members,
Today I got 3 years TRV with multiple entries by the help of Allah.

I am really so so so much thankful to waqar.ahmad150, who really provided me full support and guidance in each step from preparing to submission docs.
Waqar Ahmad I really respect your suggestions and guidance which were remarkable in my case.

My timeline was from 29th June 2013 to 14th Sep 2013
Note: My application was paper based and sent by TCS.
Wa Alikom Aslam
congratulation dear ,,
 

waqar.ahmad150

Hero Member
Jan 31, 2013
238
10
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-02-2015 (Online)
Passport Req..
22-02-2015
VISA ISSUED...
06-05-2015 (Multiple 4 Years)
LANDED..........
Landed
afgkab said:
Dear Waqar,

Please see below my response to your questions.

1) Telecom operator
2) IFRS Technical Update course
3) No – First time for such course, no conferences
4) I traveled to Dubai for some financial courses only, based on my old passport which I lost it a year ago, so I stated in my application that I never travel to any country.
5) I am Manager Accounts. I have 7-8 years of experience)
6) List of docs: Copy of CNIC, Original Passport, two photos, Travel History Form, IMM5257E, IMM5484E, IMM5645E, Invitation letter, Employer letter, Payslip, Bank statement, online travel itinerary which is not returned with application back.

Moreover IMM5257E & IMM5484E, IMM5645E are not returned. Only IMM5257B_1 for spouse is returned.

1. I am married and have a child, good job & study in graduate program
2. Purpose was attending the course
3. Contents of the course is relevant with my job, however I didn't attend such courses before)
4. I attached my own bank statement, had a balance of $8000. I can't send them company bank statements its hundred million dollars business and are confidential.
AOA,

According to ur above description, it is clear that you have good experience and balance as well but your travel history is quite week. .

If you want to re-apply then make some necessary arrangements before apply, like attend such local workshops, webinars or trainings etc and you should apply alone and show some sort of proof of your property if you have which will definitely positive for your strong ties.

Thanks
 

waqar.ahmad150

Hero Member
Jan 31, 2013
238
10
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-02-2015 (Online)
Passport Req..
22-02-2015
VISA ISSUED...
06-05-2015 (Multiple 4 Years)
LANDED..........
Landed
FreeHelp4Pakistanis said:
AOA
All members,
Today I got 3 years TRV with multiple entries by the help of Allah.

I am really so so so much thankful to waqar.ahmad150, who really provided me full support and guidance in each step from preparing to submission docs.
Waqar Ahmad I really respect your suggestions and guidance which were remarkable in my case.

My timeline was from 29th June 2013 to 14th Sep 2013
Note: My application was paper based and sent by TCS.
Dear Mr Waheed Ahmad,

Share us your experience for the whole process of trv in this forum so that other people can get benefit from it inshallah. Thanks
 

afgkab

Newbie
Sep 11, 2013
6
0
Dear Waqar,

If you think it is the travel history problem, VO had to check mark me the Travel History problem in the refusal letter. However in my case travel history is clear and VO highlighted the other four reason I mentioned you.

What do you think?

Best, AK
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
3,351
218
Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
NOC Code......
2173/4
sarah123 said:
Dear fkl, Do I need a consent from my hubby to pply for GCMS notes of his TRV refusal and one more thing the refusal is almost 10 months old. Can we still order notes for it?
Dear sarah123 and ch.immigration,

The following thread should answer all of your questions related to gcms notes. It even refers some one who is offering to get it for free. But generally speaking yes you would need a consent form to apply for any one else's notes even if it is your hubby. Any one except the primary applicant himself. Regarding 10 months old i am not sure. I guess if you look for GCMS notes detail on the website, there would be some info about max timeline. You should just apply to be sure. There is no harm in trying.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/latest-caips-gcms-notes-forms-and-how-to-order-t99210.0.html