What is BF'D ? --EXPLAINED >>>

[qorax]

Hi
Can you please help me.
I received a letter requesting for more documents PCC from India, RPRF, PCC from USA and Medicals in next 39 days.
The letter also says "Valid Passport. WHEN ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS ARE MET This must be received at this office by 05/02/2011"

My issue is, I have just applied for PCC to USA....and will try to ask more time as I will not receive the PCC by May 2nd.

Meanwhile, should I send my passport or not? Or should I send the documents they asked and a lettter for extension as PCC might take time without sending the passports.

Please advice.

They wouldn't move w/out receiving all those docs asked. Thus, if u can manage w/out the pps for sometime - send it as well. But, if having the pps r important - don't send them.

Qorax

[PD2705]

 Thanks Qoraz

Assuming you are referring PPS as passports......they are important as I frequently travel out of country on work and I dont want to lose them or not available with me for months.

So I thought I will the all teh documents I have except usa police certificate and possports. And send a letter requesting for extension. Do you know if they will reply by mail or lette or should I check the oline status.

After they receive the medicals,,,,,will they request for passports to be sent to them? How do we communicate with them.

Thanks

[qorax]

Thanks Qoraz

Assuming you are referring PPS as passports......they are important as I frequently travel out of country on work and I dont want to lose them or not available with me for months.

So I thought I will the all teh documents I have except usa police certificate and possports. And send a letter requesting for extension. Do you know if they will reply by mail or lette or should I check the oline status.

After they receive the medicals,,,,,will they request for passports to be sent to them? How do we communicate with them.

Thanks

1. Yes, pps=Passports
2. Yes, that's a wiser move.
3. Yes, they'd ask for the pps separately - if not sent already alongwith the FBI report.
4. They might not reply to your docs submission... but, u can always email query @ a later date.

Qorax

[PD2705]

Thank you

[sumitbajaj07]

All about BF'D :
-Only for some of us who didn't know...

BF'D is an acronym for "Bring Forward Date" in the Canadian PR processing system. Usually our file moves from BF'D to BF'D, as it is the day/date next earmarked by our VO to check our file. This actually serves to eliminate unnecessary clogging of the system... that if there is nothing further to add in a particular file, the VO moves to another case file to work on, rather than holding onto the same one.

What happens on a BF'D
In simple terms it is the date that the file will be looked at [again], assessed, reviewed by your case handling officer at the CHC. S/he will check if anything is lacking, any further queries to be made [to you], any documents to be asked or if any decisive action is to be made/taken. Basically it serves as a 'Reminder Tool' to the case processing officer & that your file is not 'forgotten'.

Now, if the VO observes that something is lacking [that which was asked for], s/he will probably attempt to contact you on this BF'D day and mark another BF'D on your file. This depends on the subject of check [the all time phrase 'Case-to-Case' basis]. Sometimes, if the check report warrants, the VO might not give you another opportunity and take a decisive action. Note: The situation is fluid & no one can really provide a sanguine comment on it.

Will the file be 'only' looked at a BF'D
No. If something like reports, results, documents etc. [eg. background/security checks] comes to the CHC in between, your file gets opened and assessed. However, if nothing is received in between, you get another BF'D. Note once again: If they are waiting for something and it comes as expected then the file continues to be processed further, if not then the file will be next reviewed on the BFD 'only'.

An Example
Every time we get a letter/email from the CHC -it carries a 'time limit' to submit something, right? Say 45 days, 60 days or 90 days... the ending day of that time limit is our next BF'D. As an example, if the CHC sent you a medical request [alongwith the forms] on 02 Jan 2010; and it carries a 60 day's deadline -it means your file has been marked with the next BF'D of 01 Mar 2010.

However, if your medical results are received before the BF'D [01 Mar 2010], say on 05 Feb 2010 -your file will be further processed on that day itself [05 Feb 2010]. If the med results didn't come by earlier, then it will be opened on 01 Mar 2010 -the BF'D day.

How many BF'Ds we get
Some BF'Ds are 'routine', as exampled above. Then there are some which is either case generated or because of us. By 'case generated' I mean, [eg.] if one's Security Report is pending from an external agency -the VO gives a BF'D & waits. If the report comes in time, action is taken. If it doesn't, one gets another BF'D. And the situation continues...

By 'because of us'* I mean if the VO had asked us for a document [or a couple of them]. It is wise that we proceed to submit the document/s asap. Reason? The case moves faster [read: it'll open before the BF'D]. If we don't, s/he may try to contact us on the BF'D day & log another BF'D on our file [result: Delay/s].

Delays due to BF'Ds
As stated above, except the 'routine' ones, other BF'Ds do delay our process. At the least [best scenario] each BF'D would be a month apart. Some might be more. The ideal action on our part is to submit anything that has been asked for asap. That would negate a BF'D. However, there can be times that something we just might not be able to send asap. In that case we 'must' send it by the 'deadline' -that'd avoid another BF'D, won't it?

*Many Consultants [so called agents] erroneously advise us otherwise. Stating, "Oh you got the meds, don't worry you have time till 60 days to do it". That's a 'bull'. I'd advise -do it asap, if the speed of your case process matters to you.

This post I chose to write 'coz many members are either clueless about the BF'D issue or take it lightly. Which, albeit causes delays [without our actual intention]. Moreover, there are repeated queries on the subject in various threads. I hope this helped...
Qorax

Hi Qorax,

thanks for explanation.

In my case FBI PCC was pending. I have snet Mine, But due to some reasons my wife's FBI PCC i spending.

So dows it mena they have put soem BFD on my case ?

And how we will come about these BFD dates ?

[pratirajya]

Dear Qorax,
Thanks for such a good post . But a very silly question how can we know our BFD? Will it me mentioned in ECAS or what is the way to know our BFD? Thanks .
Pratik

[qorax]

Hi Qorax,

thanks for explanation.

In my case FBI PCC was pending. I have snet Mine, But due to some reasons my wife's FBI PCC i spending.

So dows it mena they have put soem BFD on my case ?

And how we will come about these BFD dates ?

Yes.

[qorax]

Dear Qorax,
Thanks for such a good post . But a very silly question how can we know our BFD? Will it me mentioned in ECAS or what is the way to know our BFD? Thanks .
Pratik

Thru your CAIPS notes. -if u fetch one that is

[ali green]

Dear Qorax

I need you assistance on understanding my case.
I ordered my CAIPS twice on the first time my bring forward date was November 2010 and on the second time I ordered my CAIPS on January 2011. The bring forward date is still the same one and no changes was noticed on CAIPS notes. Everything is 0 except age.

Please what do you think is happing?
Is it on hold till further notice? Or it could be waiting for something external reply.

thank you

[jnathan]

ali green,

Hopefully Qorax will reply to your query. Let me add my guess here:  On that day of November 2010 your VO opened your file to check if the requested paper/checklist had arrived, if yes then he has dispatched a letter/decision for you or if not then he will set up a new BF'd date which would be reflected on your new CAIPS if you plan to order one at the moment.

Hope this help.

[canadaforall]

Dear Qorax

I need you assistance on understanding my case.
I ordered my CAIPS twice on the first time my bring forward date was November 2010 and on the second time I ordered my CAIPS on January 2011. The bring forward date is still the same one and no changes was noticed on CAIPS notes. Everything is 0 except age.

Please what do you think is happing?
Is it on hold till further notice? Or it could be waiting for something external reply.

thank you

To Ali Green a quick question,when did you order you 1st Caip Notes, i am planning to order my 2nd Caip Notes as i am so confused.  My case has been delayed  for long time.

I ordered my 1st Caips in December and got them printed in January 13, just a few days before my BF'D , which was the 22.1.2011. When i got the Caip Notes , there were lots of mistakes on it, so i really want to ordered a 2nd want to see what is happened on the BF'D date.

When do ou think i can order 2Nd Caips?

Thanks waiting

[qorax]

Dear Qorax

I need you assistance on understanding my case.
I ordered my CAIPS twice on the first time my bring forward date was November 2010 and on the second time I ordered my CAIPS on January 2011. The bring forward date is still the same one and no changes was noticed on CAIPS notes. Everything is 0 except age.

Please what do you think is happing?
Is it on hold till further notice? Or it could be waiting for something external reply.

thank you

As Jnathan explained, not that it's on hold - but no much work is done on your file... they r yet Xchecking your docs, that's what I opine.

Fetching frequent CAIPS isn't of any use... 'coz, all u'd see is the BF'Ds... there r queues to cross, specific timeframes to match, follow-ups to record... all these take time. It's good to get the CAIPS notes only after considerable intervals... 6-7 months approx apart.

Qorax

[ali green]

Dear Jnathan, canadaforall and Qorax
Thank you for the quick reply and for your time.
You are right I order it on July 2010 which I got the BF'D in Nov. 2010 so after this date in December I order it again to get it in January which no new date was given and no action was done.
I will order it again by the end of this year.
Thank you

[staralihaider]

Dear Jnathan, canadaforall and Qorax
Thank you for the quick reply and for your time.
You are right I order it on July 2010 which I got the BF'D in Nov. 2010 so after this date in December I order it again to get it in January which no new date was given and no action was done.
I will order it again by the end of this year.
Thank you

Same situation with me. i will apply caipsnotes again in mid of june 2011.

[qorax]

Dear Jnathan, canadaforall and Qorax
Thank you for the quick reply and for your time.
You are right I order it on July 2010 which I got the BF'D in Nov. 2010 so after this date in December I order it again to get it in January which no new date was given and no action was done.
I will order it again by the end of this year.
Thank you

U'd probably have your Meds/PPR by then !