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Author Topic: What happen to your Temporary Resident Visa when you got PR?  (Read 507 times)
ethels
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« on: January 04, 2012, 10:15:53 pm »



The reason I asked is because, I have booked a trip in coming weeks and therefore there is not sufficient time to obtain my PR card before then Sad

I'm wondering if you can still get to keep your visitor visa? This is just to show the airline carrier that you can indeed travel to Canada?
I'm not worried when I'm in Canada since there are bunch of other documentations to proof my status as PR.


So for those who obviously who landed already ... do you still have your TRV in your passport?


Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 10:33:20 pm »

You must obtain a Permanent Resident travel document prior to leaving Canada!
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ethels
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 11:14:06 pm »

You must obtain a Permanent Resident travel document prior to leaving Canada!

Thanks for the feedback.

Unfortunately this is not possible as I have a prepaid flight in just two weeks.

So my best idea is: after I got my permanent resident visa in Buffalo, I will not land in Canada when returning ... and instead still use my TRV... and only when I return from my vacation abroad that I will land... *sigh*

I'm wondering if this is possible? to tell the officer that I am not going to land today and still be Temporary Resident when entering Canada ?

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 11:51:41 pm »

Thanks for the feedback.

Unfortunately this is not possible as I have a prepaid flight in just two weeks.

So my best idea is: after I got my permanent resident visa in Buffalo, I will not land in Canada when returning ... and instead still use my TRV... and only when I return from my vacation abroad that I will land... *sigh*

I'm wondering if this is possible? to tell the officer that I am not going to land today and still be Temporary Resident when entering Canada ?



use that TRV visa to board the plane. when arriving at POE, show COPR, then you will be fine.
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ethels
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 12:05:39 am »

use that TRV visa to board the plane. when arriving at POE, show COPR, then you will be fine.

Thanks for response!

This is assuming that the TRV is not cancelled when I re-enter Canada from Buffalo? I read somewhere that it will be marked as "CANCELLED WITHOUT PREJUDICE"

*This is the part where I'm confused. Will I be forced to use my PR Visa when entering Canada from Buffalo ... or can I still use my TRV and not land that day?

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 08:47:34 am »

When you land, the IO will usually ask for the TRV (visitor record), it will be cancelled.

Note: a COPR should not be used to arrive/enter into Canada by commercial carrier (bus, aircraft, ship, etc), The COPR can be used when entering by foot or by car.

You will need a travel document.
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ethels
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 10:14:46 am »

When you land, the IO will usually ask for the TRV (visitor record), it will be cancelled.

Note: a COPR should not be used to arrive/enter into Canada by commercial carrier (bus, aircraft, ship, etc), The COPR can be used when entering by foot or by car.

You will need a travel document.

Therefore, can I decide not to land and still use my TRV? I will land when I return from my short trip in early next month ...

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 10:21:11 am »

Thanks for response!

This is assuming that the TRV is not cancelled when I re-enter Canada from Buffalo? I read somewhere that it will be marked as "CANCELLED WITHOUT PREJUDICE"

*This is the part where I'm confused. Will I be forced to use my PR Visa when entering Canada from Buffalo ... or can I still use my TRV and not land that day?


Yes, Only if that visa is not cancelled that you can use it.

Maybe when returning back from Buffalo try to explain to IO at POE about your intention to use it one more time just to board the airplane because it is difficult to explain the PR rules to the airlines.

If the IO didn't see it and didn't mark on it, then you are free to go, just use it again to board the plane. When arriving at POE you MUST claim yourself a PR with COPR right away.

Another option is to enter Canada as a visitor on your way back from Buffalo. Simply tell them I am not landing today.
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ethels
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 11:58:22 am »



Thanks,

Just called CIC and the agent confirmed everything you said.. lol

She just added however that it's really up to the CBSA officer whether to let enter using your PR but she said just to explain the situation to the officer and they will let you enter as TRV.

Thanks again!
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TRUONGAN
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 12:35:30 pm »


Thanks,

Just called CIC and the agent confirmed everything you said.. lol

She just added however that it's really up to the CBSA officer whether to let enter using your PR but she said just to explain the situation to the officer and they will let you enter as TRV.

Thanks again!

Oh, so you are the guy I just spoke with.



LOL, j/k
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 11:51:53 am »


The reason I asked is because, I have booked a trip in coming weeks and therefore there is not sufficient time to obtain my PR card before then Sad

I'm wondering if you can still get to keep your visitor visa? This is just to show the airline carrier that you can indeed travel to Canada?
I'm not worried when I'm in Canada since there are bunch of other documentations to proof my status as PR.


So for those who obviously who landed already ... do you still have your TRV in your passport?


Thanks!

If you are already a permanent resident of Canada, even if you don't have the PR Card yet, I think your passport must show that you have, indeed, a Permanent Resident visa. Your TRV will have no more purpose if you now have a PR visa stamped in your passport, whether or not you have a PR card issued. Therefore you should not have any problems entering Canada. A PR Visa has more weight than a TR Visa.
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ethels
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2012, 12:16:43 pm »

If you are already a permanent resident of Canada, even if you don't have the PR Card yet, I think your passport must show that you have, indeed, a Permanent Resident visa. Your TRV will have no more purpose if you now have a PR visa stamped in your passport, whether or not you have a PR card issued. Therefore you should not have any problems entering Canada. A PR Visa has more weight than a TR Visa.


You are absolutely correct.

But let me add that this is valid if you travel with your own personal vehicle (car crossing border). Aircraft carrier have their regulations which require you to produce either a TRV or PR Card. This is why Temporary Travel Document is always available for PR abroad who doesn't have their card (i.e lost, stolen, expired, not yet received, etc).

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 12:38:17 pm »


You are absolutely correct.

But let me add that this is valid if you travel with your own personal vehicle (car crossing border). Aircraft carrier have their regulations which require you to produce either a TRV or PR Card. This is why Temporary Travel Document is always available for PR abroad who doesn't have their card (i.e lost, stolen, expired, not yet received, etc).



FWIW It is not just aircraft, this applies to any commercial carrier, bus, ship etc

You can enter Canada as a permanent resident using a Passport and COPR, if you are on foot or by personal vehicle.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 10:53:24 am »

FWIW It is not just aircraft, this applies to any commercial carrier, bus, ship etc

You can enter Canada as a permanent resident using a Passport and COPR, if you are on foot or by personal vehicle.

Right. And as far as I know, it is the duty and jurisdiction of the border official/immigration officer to verify the status of people crossing their borders (whether they are tourists, immigrants or citizens) and not the commercial carriers. Carriers only need to verify proof of identity and not citizenship and/or immigration status.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 08:00:44 pm »

Right. And as far as I know, it is the duty and jurisdiction of the border official/immigration officer to verify the status of people crossing their borders (whether they are tourists, immigrants or citizens) and not the commercial carriers. Carriers only need to verify proof of identity and not citizenship and/or immigration status.

However, some of the carriers do examine immigration status/documents.
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