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poissonmagique
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« on: June 14, 2009, 03:07:39 pm »

Someone mentioned one possible denial reason is  for 'intention not to settle in province that nominated you'.

Just need to address some concerns:

1. after one gets the provincial nomination, how will the canadian embassy know what ur actual or perceived intentions are?

2. what is the minimum amount of time u need to stay in that province, before u can consider moving to other provinces?

3. any exceptions to the rule? wat if I have a better job offer in another province? u mean to say I need to stay in the nominating province for a required time first?

4. upon getting my permanent resident visa, do I need to land in my nominating province, and not anywhere else?

5.  any other restrictions, terms and conditions need to know about?


please explain in detail. thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 03:48:41 pm »

Someone mentioned one possible denial reason is  for 'intention not to settle in province that nominated you'.

Just need to address some concerns:

1. after one gets the provincial nomination, how will the canadian embassy know what ur actual or perceived intentions are?


Answer 1: There is a landing process in which you will land in province and show the proof of funds and provide them your Albertan address at Port of Entry. That's how initially Govt will know where you are residing.

2. what is the minimum amount of time u need to stay in that province, before u can consider moving to other provinces?

As a provincial nominee, you are not required to show the funds But at port of entry as a single person, you are strongly advised to have proof of 10,833 CAD. Because there are lots of discretionery things.
3. any exceptions to the rule? wat if I have a better job offer in another province? u mean to say I need to stay in the nominating province for a required time first?

No exception so far because they are nominating only those who are needed by Alberta. They are not nominating talented  Indian with 5 Degrees in Music and 2 Phd's in Home Science. Therefore not getting job is almost impossible.
4. upon getting my permanent resident visa, do I need to land in my nominating province, and not anywhere else?

Yes you need to.

5.  any other restrictions, terms and conditions need to know about?

No not much. Just be of good morale and character and pay the taxes so after 3 years you can be a Citizen. Thats' it.

As a permanent resident you can:

Do any or any number of Business, trade, commerce etc.
Do any job, any number of job, for any employer
Buy property, sale property, Buy & sale other kind of assets.
Get All kind of education and pay the tution which other canadians will pay
AT will you can serve certain jobs in Army, Navy and Air Force
Enjoy social and public health benefits so other canadians enjoy
Can sponsor family members/spouse/additional family members

Can not do while Permanent resident:

can't serve certain Govt and defense jobs which requires citizenship
can't vote in elections
can't stand in any Municipal, provincial or federal election.



please explain in detail. thank you.

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poissonmagique
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 08:53:35 pm »

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Leon
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 12:57:15 am »

Someone mentioned one possible denial reason is  for 'intention not to settle in province that nominated you'.

Just need to address some concerns:

1. after one gets the provincial nomination, how will the canadian embassy know what ur actual or perceived intentions are?

2. what is the minimum amount of time u need to stay in that province, before u can consider moving to other provinces?

3. any exceptions to the rule? wat if I have a better job offer in another province? u mean to say I need to stay in the nominating province for a required time first?

4. upon getting my permanent resident visa, do I need to land in my nominating province, and not anywhere else?

5.  any other restrictions, terms and conditions need to know about?


please explain in detail. thank you.


1. You sign a form stating that you intend to settle in the province.  If you land somewhere else, that may be taken as a sign that you don't intend to settle in that province.

2. There is no minimum amount of time.  The Canada Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that any PR has the right to live and work anywhere in Canada.  However, since you signed the form as per 1. it would be advisable to at least make an attempt to settle in the province that was nice enough to nominate you.  That could be as little as staying there for a couple of months and looking for jobs.  If you don't get a job, it should be ok to look elsewhere.  In a worst case scenario, if you got PR through PNP and landed in that province and left after 1 day, making no attempt to settle there, there is a possibility that they would go after you for lying on your immigration forms when you said you were intending to settle in that province.  As we all know, lying on your immigration forms is very bad and can cause the cancellation of your PR or even citizenship if you already got it.  As far as I know, this has not happened to anybody.  Could it have happened to somebody without me having heard about it, sure.  Might it happen in the future, who knows.

3. See 2.

4. Yes, normally you do need to land in the province that nominated you.  If you have some reason why you can't, contact their PNP and ask.

5. Not really.
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PR=Permanent resident - TFW=temporary foreign worker
FSW=federal skilled worker - QSW=Quebec skilled worker
AEO=arranged employment offer - LMO=labour market opinion
CEC=Canadian experience class - PNP=provincial nominee program
poissonmagique
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 01:43:44 am »

thank u for replies. I have more concerns:

1. if u a Alberta provincial nominee, it is not possible to enter via Vancouver, BC, and then go to Alberta? if this happens, r u considered 'landed' in Vancouver, or can u just enter and stay in Vancouver for a while, and 'land' later when u take the trip to Alberta?

2. wat documents do u need to show to prove you exerted effort in looking for a job in your nominating province? or is the fact that u landed in that province enough?

3. will the canadian embassy know if you stayed in the nominating province for two months, or just two days? how will they know?


4. is there an interview that will be conducted in the canadian embassy after u get ur provincial nomination?

5. how many months does it normally take before u get permanent resident visa, after getting the provincial nomination?
 
6. also, is it true u need to be someone with extraordinary capabilities to be nominated by any province? why?



Someone mentioned one possible denial reason is  for 'intention not to settle in province that nominated you'.

Just need to address some concerns:

1. after one gets the provincial nomination, how will the canadian embassy know what ur actual or perceived intentions are?

2. what is the minimum amount of time u need to stay in that province, before u can consider moving to other provinces?

3. any exceptions to the rule? wat if I have a better job offer in another province? u mean to say I need to stay in the nominating province for a required time first?

4. upon getting my permanent resident visa, do I need to land in my nominating province, and not anywhere else?

5.  any other restrictions, terms and conditions need to know about?


please explain in detail. thank you.


1. You sign a form stating that you intend to settle in the province.  If you land somewhere else, that may be taken as a sign that you don't intend to settle in that province.

2. There is no minimum amount of time.  The Canada Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that any PR has the right to live and work anywhere in Canada.  However, since you signed the form as per 1. it would be advisable to at least make an attempt to settle in the province that was nice enough to nominate you.  That could be as little as staying there for a couple of months and looking for jobs.  If you don't get a job, it should be ok to look elsewhere.  In a worst case scenario, if you got PR through PNP and landed in that province and left after 1 day, making no attempt to settle there, there is a possibility that they would go after you for lying on your immigration forms when you said you were intending to settle in that province.  As we all know, lying on your immigration forms is very bad and can cause the cancellation of your PR or even citizenship if you already got it.  As far as I know, this has not happened to anybody.  Could it have happened to somebody without me having heard about it, sure.  Might it happen in the future, who knows.

3. See 2.

4. Yes, normally you do need to land in the province that nominated you.  If you have some reason why you can't, contact their PNP and ask.

5. Not really.

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 06:00:25 am »

thank u for replies. I have more concerns:

1. if u a Alberta provincial nominee, it is not possible to enter via Vancouver, BC, and then go to Alberta? if this happens, r u considered 'landed' in Vancouver, or can u just enter and stay in Vancouver for a while, and 'land' later when u take the trip to Alberta?

2. wat documents do u need to show to prove you exerted effort in looking for a job in your nominating province? or is the fact that u landed in that province enough?

3. will the canadian embassy know if you stayed in the nominating province for two months, or just two days? how will they know?


4. is there an interview that will be conducted in the canadian embassy after u get ur provincial nomination?

5. how many months does it normally take before u get permanent resident visa, after getting the provincial nomination?
 
6. also, is it true u need to be someone with extraordinary capabilities to be nominated by any province? why?


1. If you fly into the Vancouver airport, that is where you enter Canada so that is where you land.  Your flight from Vancouver to Alberta would be a domestic flight.  If your only option of flight is flying in to Vancouver, you need to ask the AINP if that is ok with them.

2. You may never need to show any evidence of having looked for a job in the province but you need to think about what are you going to do if somebody were to ask you.  The possibility is there that they will start going after people who get nominated and never settle in the province.  If somebody ever comes back to you and tells you that you signed this document that you intended to settle in the province and what happened, you need to know how you will answer that question.  If it was me, I would keep a record of all jobs I had applied for to have something in hand to try to show that I did attempt to settle as well as you can keep records of having been in the province for a couple of months, you rented a room or an apartment, you opened a bank account there, you applied for health care and SIN card, you had a phone etc. etc.

3. I do not know how well agencies are connected but if you plan to work somewhere and file taxes, some part of the government will know where you live.  There is also the possibility if you have friends or family who knows about your situation and you have an argument with them, that they will rat you out.

4. After you are nominated and you apply for PR, I don't know if they call people for interview.

5. You can see times at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/04-provincial.asp

6. No, you just need to fit the requirements of the program you are applying for, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/provincial/apply-who.asp  Some PNP's have a family stream component or an investor/business component.  Most of them have a skilled worker component and in most cases they require you to have a job offer for that.  You can also get PNP if you are working in the province already on a temporary work permit.  The business components are sometimes restricted to you successfully opening a business in the province in the next couple of years so if that is the case, you obviously have to stay in that province.
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PR=Permanent resident - TFW=temporary foreign worker
FSW=federal skilled worker - QSW=Quebec skilled worker
AEO=arranged employment offer - LMO=labour market opinion
CEC=Canadian experience class - PNP=provincial nominee program
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