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Author Topic: Voluntary Departure (Removal Order)  (Read 424 times)
igotscrewed
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« on: October 21, 2011, 04:29:14 pm »

I got a voluntary departure which is under a forcebale removal order.
I have complied with the CBSA and GTEC (Greater Toronto Enforcement Center).
I filed for my deferal which was refused as CIC and CBSA both are under impression that I don;t want to leave canada.
Reasons I mentioned in deferal were legit but still refused.
I just have one question.
I was asked whether I can arrange my own ticket or should CBSA arrange for me?
I have to let CBSA know about my ticket on 27th of this month and I have to leave Canada on or before 7th November 2011.
If I cannot come with my funds to purchase ticket and CBSA arranges ticket for me how long will it take for them to arrange the ticket for me and will they detain me?
Please I know there are lot of respected and very famous personalities here who offer a true opinion based on their expertise which I am looking at this point. Please help.....
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NBaker
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 07:06:56 pm »

Hi there igotscrewed,

Couple of points on the face of the information provided since I do not have all of the facts of your case:

- it is likely you are subject of an enforceable removal order, but the term forceable is kind of neat
- you appear to have been given the opportunity to voluntarily comply with your removal order and this means you may purchase your own way home - if given this option the officer involved in your case must believe you have the means to do so or can prove you have them (are able to purchase your own ticket, have or will have by your departure a valid travel document and have the intention of returning to your country of nationality or other country where you may remain as more than just a tourist)
- if you fail to show you have the above requirements by the date required you should expect a flight to be booked immediately for you and be directed to report for removal failing which a warrant for your arrest could be issued
 - will you be detained? Good question - if the officer believes you are unlikely to appear for removal you most certainly could and should be detained to ensure the enforcement of the removal order, but you have indicated that you complied with GTEC and CBSA in the past so why would you not comply now? If you will and no other reasons exist for detention (your narrative provides none - yet there appears to have been concern about your willingness to depart in your deferral request statement so I have to wonder why you are still wandering around, but again I don't have all the details so grounds to detain are unlikely to exist so we'll continue to go with that)
- the benefit to purchasing your ticket home generally means more time to depart would normally have been provided to you to leave and if at some time in the future you applied to return and were approved to do so  and your removal order has become a deportation order (which I am assuming without full case specifics) or your removal order is an exclusion order and you are seeking to return earlier than the prescribed time of prohibition then you would not be required to repay removal costs which vary depending on how you are removed from Canada.
Bear in mind a ticket could have been arranged for your departure the day you spoke to the enforcement officer providing as little as 7 days notice (depending on the country) so that's the timeline I would expect if you don't buy a ticket at a minimum. Did the officer you spoke to not explain all this? Maybe you had information overload and forgot some of this. If not the officer could easily have done so, too bad they didn't if that was the case, but that changes none of the facts.

Tell me what reason for deferral of removal did you have? Also, how ever, did you come up with the igotscrewed handle? What makes you think you were?

I encourage you to comply, as you state you have in the past, and if you have the means buy your ticket  for the date required or expect immediate arrangements for enforcement of the removal order against you to be made immediately

All the best to you for the future

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