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sheep528
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« on: September 10, 2009, 06:12:02 pm »

Hi, all.
I just graduate from an university in Australia with a degree in computer science and I am now in Vancouver to visit my mum who works here. I have a multi entry visitor visa for 6 month. Since I don't have many friends here, I would like to find a volunteer work in Vancouver and gain some experience so after I go back, I can add something in my resume.
My question is if I just want to find a volunteer job without payment(related to my degree), do I need to change my visa to work permit?
coz in Australia, if you don't recieve payment, you don't have to apply for a work permit, I am not sure if it is the case in Canada.
I try to seek the answer on the official website but there aren't many useful information there, so hope this is not a rare case.

Thank you for your answers

Best Regards
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Suin
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 08:31:47 pm »

I think you can apply for a volunteer job, as you will not be paid it won't create any problem
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it's just my own opinion influenced by my own experience.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 09:19:21 pm »

Hi

Hi, all.
I just graduate from an university in Australia with a degree in computer science and I am now in Vancouver to visit my mum who works here. I have a multi entry visitor visa for 6 month. Since I don't have many friends here, I would like to find a volunteer work in Vancouver and gain some experience so after I go back, I can add something in my resume.
My question is if I just want to find a volunteer job without payment(related to my degree), do I need to change my visa to work permit?
coz in Australia, if you don't recieve payment, you don't have to apply for a work permit, I am not sure if it is the case in Canada.
I try to seek the answer on the official website but there aren't many useful information there, so hope this is not a rare case.

Thank you for your answers

Best Regards

Just be careful, since if the position is normally a paid one, even though you are not being paid, it would be considered work. 

From the FW Manual

"Examples of activities for which a person would not normally be remunerated or which
would not compete directly with Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents in the
Canadian labour market and which would normally be part-time or incidental to the reason
that the person is in Canada include, but are not limited to:
• volunteer work for which a person would not normally be remunerated, such as sitting on the
board of a charity or religious institution; being a ‘big brother' or ‘big sister' to a child; being on
the telephone line at a rape crisis centre. (Normally this activity would be part time and
incidental to the main reason that a person is in Canada);
• unremunerated help by a friend or family member during a visit, such as a mother assisting a
daughter with childcare, or an uncle helping his nephew build his own cottage;
• long distance (by telephone or internet) work done by a temporary resident whose employer
is outside Canada and who is remunerated from outside Canada;
• self-employment where the work to be done would have no real impact on the labour market,
nor really provide an opportunity for Canadians. Examples include a U.S. farmer crossing the
border to work on fields that he owns, or a miner coming to work on his own claim.
There may be other types of unpaid short-term work where the work is really incidental to the
main reason that a person is visiting Canada and is not a competitive activity, even though nonmonetary
valuable consideration is received. For instance, if a tourist wishes to stay on a family
farm and work part time just for room and board for a short period (i.e., 1-4 weeks), this person
would not be considered a worker.
We recognize that there may be overlap in activities that we do not consider to be work and those
activities which are defined as work not requiring a work permit in R186. However, the net effect
(no work permit required) is the same."

PMM
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sheep528
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 01:56:29 am »

I think you can apply for a volunteer job, as you will not be paid it won't create any problem

thank you for your answer. if this is the case then it will be great.
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sheep528
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 02:04:25 am »

Hi

Just be careful, since if the position is normally a paid one, even though you are not being paid, it would be considered work. 

From the FW Manual

"Examples of activities for which a person would not normally be remunerated or which
would not compete directly with Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents in the
Canadian labour market and which would normally be part-time or incidental to the reason
that the person is in Canada include, but are not limited to:
• volunteer work for which a person would not normally be remunerated, such as sitting on the
board of a charity or religious institution; being a ‘big brother' or ‘big sister' to a child; being on
the telephone line at a rape crisis centre. (Normally this activity would be part time and
incidental to the main reason that a person is in Canada);
• unremunerated help by a friend or family member during a visit, such as a mother assisting a
daughter with childcare, or an uncle helping his nephew build his own cottage;
• long distance (by telephone or internet) work done by a temporary resident whose employer
is outside Canada and who is remunerated from outside Canada;
• self-employment where the work to be done would have no real impact on the labour market,
nor really provide an opportunity for Canadians. Examples include a U.S. farmer crossing the
border to work on fields that he owns, or a miner coming to work on his own claim.
There may be other types of unpaid short-term work where the work is really incidental to the
main reason that a person is visiting Canada and is not a competitive activity, even though nonmonetary
valuable consideration is received. For instance, if a tourist wishes to stay on a family
farm and work part time just for room and board for a short period (i.e., 1-4 weeks), this person
would not be considered a worker.
We recognize that there may be overlap in activities that we do not consider to be work and those
activities which are defined as work not requiring a work permit in R186. However, the net effect
(no work permit required) is the same."

PMM

first, thank you for your answer.
my understanding of your answer is if my volunteer work does not affect canadian labour market, then it should be fine, am I right?
btw, what is FW stand for and where do you get the manual?

Best Regards
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PMM
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 01:31:01 pm »

Hi

Hi

Just be careful, since if the position is normally a paid one, even though you are not being paid, it would be considered work. 

From the FW Manual

"Examples of activities for which a person would not normally be remunerated or which
would not compete directly with Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents in the
Canadian labour market and which would normally be part-time or incidental to the reason
that the person is in Canada include, but are not limited to:
• volunteer work for which a person would not normally be remunerated, such as sitting on the
board of a charity or religious institution; being a ‘big brother' or ‘big sister' to a child; being on
the telephone line at a rape crisis centre. (Normally this activity would be part time and
incidental to the main reason that a person is in Canada);
• unremunerated help by a friend or family member during a visit, such as a mother assisting a
daughter with childcare, or an uncle helping his nephew build his own cottage;
• long distance (by telephone or internet) work done by a temporary resident whose employer
is outside Canada and who is remunerated from outside Canada;
• self-employment where the work to be done would have no real impact on the labour market,
nor really provide an opportunity for Canadians. Examples include a U.S. farmer crossing the
border to work on fields that he owns, or a miner coming to work on his own claim.
There may be other types of unpaid short-term work where the work is really incidental to the
main reason that a person is visiting Canada and is not a competitive activity, even though nonmonetary
valuable consideration is received. For instance, if a tourist wishes to stay on a family
farm and work part time just for room and board for a short period (i.e., 1-4 weeks), this person
would not be considered a worker.
We recognize that there may be overlap in activities that we do not consider to be work and those
activities which are defined as work not requiring a work permit in R186. However, the net effect
(no work permit required) is the same."

PMM

Foreign Worker , http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/index.asp

PMM

first, thank you for your answer.
my understanding of your answer is if my volunteer work does not affect canadian labour market, then it should be fine, am I right?
btw, what is FW stand for and where do you get the manual?

Best Regards
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PMM
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