Very Important Questions!!! Qorax Please reply!!!

[arcticmaple]

1. Can a pr holder retains his/her status if he/she stays outside Canada with his/her spouse?

2. What all countries can a Canada pr holder travel without travel visa?

3. I have read somewhere in cic website that stay before pr will be counted as 1/2 day and stay after pr will be counted one full day. so my question is will they consider my 15-month stay in canada during 2005-06 and count it towards residence requirements so that i need not have to physically present for 2-years out of 5-years.

Thanks & Regards,
arcticmaple.

[devilhimselff]

My understanding is that you have to have 2 years out of 5 in Canada to maintain PR.

PR Card does not entitle you to Visa Free entry, Citizenship (Canadian Passport) will to many.

The stay in Canada is half counted if its prior to PR...BUT might be the last 5 years..Not sure about that though.

[arcticmaple]

Seniors Please answer my questions.
I need an definite answer to these questions. I've read in a website which says that an PR holder can stay outside the country with an canadian spouse or canadian business to maintain his/her PR status.

Secondly, in the same website it's mentioned about the list of countries including Netherland, Mexico etc where we do not need travel visa if we have Canadian PR.
Thanks & Regards,
arcticmaple...

[Dr.Hasib]

Seniors Please answer my questions.
I need an definite answer to these questions. I've read in a website which says that an PR holder can stay outside the country with an canadian spouse or canadian business to maintain his/her PR status.

Secondly, in the same website it's mentioned about the list of countries including Netherland, Mexico etc where we do not need travel visa if we have Canadian PR.
Thanks & Regards,
arcticmaple...

nope..to maintain your status you must reside in canada for 2 years out of 5 years. however, it doesnt need to be continuous, it could be accumulative.

[Leon]

You can keep your PR status if you are outside Canada working for a Canadian employer or accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse.

If you look at the PR card renewal application form, it first asks you if you have been outside Canada for 1095 days or more in the past 5 years.  If you say yes, they offer you to list how many of those days were spent on business for a Canadian employer or accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse.  Those days count towards your PR as if you had spent them in Canada.

They are however strict on which employers count as Canadian and you preferably must have been hired in Canada and transferred to an overseas office.  They do that because that clause is meant for people who took a job in Canada and should not lose their PR status just because their Canadian employer sent them to another country.  You can not save your PR by looking for a job overseas at a Canadian or multi-national part-Canadian company.

As for accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse, they could argue who was accompanying whom, if your Canadian spouse for example is not working but they usually don't.

Your PR is also protected if you are the spouse of a PR who is working for a Canadian employer overseas.

[arcticmaple]

You can keep your PR status if you are outside Canada working for a Canadian employer or accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse.

If you look at the PR card renewal application form, it first asks you if you have been outside Canada for 1095 days or more in the past 5 years.  If you say yes, they offer you to list how many of those days were spent on business for a Canadian employer or accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse.  Those days count towards your PR as if you had spent them in Canada.

They are however strict on which employers count as Canadian and you preferably must have been hired in Canada and transferred to an overseas office.  They do that because that clause is meant for people who took a job in Canada and should not lose their PR status just because their Canadian employer sent them to another country.  You can not save your PR by looking for a job overseas at a Canadian or multi-national part-Canadian company.

As for accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse, they could argue who was accompanying whom, if your Canadian spouse for example is not working but they usually don't.

Your PR is also protected if you are the spouse of a PR who is working for a Canadian employer overseas.

Thanks a lottt for your prompt reply!!! Very much appreciated!!! I completely understand what you said here, but still i have one question in mind ie., what if pr holder accompany a landed immigrant citizen? will they consider landed immigrant as Canadian citizen? Is there any special clause for them. Actually my wife and kid who is 3-years old doesn't want to stay for long and become Canadian Citizens. So what if i become Citizen and stay outside country and will my wife and kid can retain their pr status for ever?
Eagerly awaiting for your answer!!!
Thanks & regards,
arcticmaple...

[Leon]

A landed immigrant is a PR.  If he gains citizenship, he is a citizen and no longer a PR.  There is no such thing as a landed immigrant citizen.

A citizen can keep their citizenship forever, no matter where they live.  The spouse and child under 22 accompanying a citizen in another country will keep their PR forever but it will be hard for them to renew their PR cards as they must be in Canada to do that.

If you apply for citizenship, you can apply for your minor children at the same time.  As long as they are still PR and have not lost their PR due to not meeting the residency requirements, they do not have to meet the 1095 days for citizenship either.  They don't have to take the exam if they are under 18 and if they are under 14, they don't even have to attend the oath.

[devilhimselff]

Precise info Leon...
+1 for you...

[shijoal]

Precise info Leon...
+1 for you...

can u just say which all countries u can travel with out visa as a canadian citizen?

[omm]

can u just say which all countries u can travel with out visa as a canadian citizen?

have a look here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Canadian_citizens

OMM

[devilhimselff]

have a look here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Canadian_citizens

OMM

Good Link...   +1

 @  Shijol And also remember its Citizen, not Permanent Resident.

[DJ sam]

Arcticmaple

I hope you have got the answers you were looking for...but you should learn how to post on the forum. IMHO if you want to ask question to a specific person (some senior in particular) you should either mention his/her name or you send PM. But when you post a general question then it is rude, IMO, to reply to only one person, ignoring others. Dr. Hasib and devil both replied to your questions and you posted another post ‘Seniors Please answer my questions.' I find it rude!

DJ Sam

[scylla]

3. I have read somewhere in cic website that stay before pr will be counted as 1/2 day and stay after pr will be counted one full day. so my question is will they consider my 15-month stay in canada during 2005-06 and count it towards residence requirements so that i need not have to physically present for 2-years out of 5-years.

This rule only applies to qualifying for citizenship - not retaining PR. So no - your 15 month stay in Canada during 2005/6 will not be counted towards your PR residence requirements.

[arcticmaple]

Dear friends,
                 Thanks a lot for all your replies!!! Very much appreciated!!!
Regards,
arcticmaple