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bfraken
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« on: November 22, 2009, 12:54:25 pm »

Hello to all and congrats to those that have been approved as permanent residents.

This post is one with a twist. My wife landed here in Calgary Oct 25 after a nice and fast approval of 88 days.

The irony now is that we might both be moving to the UK in the next couple of months so that my wife can find work in her field.

My wife had a BSc in blood transfusion and hematology and worked for NHS for 9 years in a hospital lab. She's tried to apply over here for the same job but has been told that she's not qualified and will need at least another year of schooling. Funny part is that it's only a 2 yr course at a community college and not a 4 yr degree.

We checked out things with her job before she came over and was told by different bodies that they would work with her to achieve status in Canada, but once she landed all doors have been closed, no one willing to give her the time to help but is told to let them know once she's certified and they'll give her a job.

Right now I'm home after dropping her off at Tim Horton's serving coffee just so she can make some money for now and so she's not stuck in the house all the time.

Good thing I'm in the trades and can work just about anywhere, I made a few calls across the pond and already have a couple of job offers.
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Karlshammar
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 03:24:28 pm »

Have you checked with http://www.credentials.gc.ca/ to see if they can help her in any way?
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maua
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 08:43:54 pm »

So rather than go back to school for a year, you'd rather go through the expensive process of relocating to an entirely different continent? Wow! Such resilience.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 09:09:35 pm »

Heh, some people just hate to study, I guess. Smiley

So rather than go back to school for a year, you'd rather go through the expensive process of relocating to an entirely different continent? Wow! Such resilience.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 10:13:24 pm »

I think this is the case whenever you want to work with healthcare or teaching - if you don't have a local degree you're pretty much done for. Sad
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 10:38:02 pm »

Nah, usually there is an exam you can do if you're of a specific credential, like an M.D., RN, or whatever. Had a friend in California who had a German medical education and he worked as a medical specialist (radiologist, if memory serves me correctly). He said the exam was brutal, though.

I think this is the case whenever you want to work with healthcare or teaching - if you don't have a local degree you're pretty much done for. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 10:10:11 am »

Why are foreign qualifications good enough to get you into Canada but not good enough to get a job?
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 10:35:36 am »

Hello to all and congrats to those that have been approved as permanent residents.

This post is one with a twist. My wife landed here in Calgary Oct 25 after a nice and fast approval of 88 days.

The irony now is that we might both be moving to the UK in the next couple of months so that my wife can find work in her field.

My wife had a BSc in blood transfusion and hematology and worked for NHS for 9 years in a hospital lab. She's tried to apply over here for the same job but has been told that she's not qualified and will need at least another year of schooling. Funny part is that it's only a 2 yr course at a community college and not a 4 yr degree.

We checked out things with her job before she came over and was told by different bodies that they would work with her to achieve status in Canada, but once she landed all doors have been closed, no one willing to give her the time to help but is told to let them know once she's certified and they'll give her a job.

Right now I'm home after dropping her off at Tim Horton's serving coffee just so she can make some money for now and so she's not stuck in the house all the time.

Good thing I'm in the trades and can work just about anywhere, I made a few calls across the pond and already have a couple of job offers.

try the the michner institute, give them a call...they deal with healthcare professionals. 

http://www.michener.ca/

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 02:25:30 pm »



try the the michner institute, give them a call...they deal with healthcare professionals. 

http://www.michener.ca/


Shame on the health system here in Canada. the husband of my friend has been in Canada for 9 months after landing. he immigrated from UK to join and reunite the family. he had been a doctor specilaist there in UK. His high qualification and training were done in UK. He achievd Fellowship and MD there (both are the highest qualification in anywhere in the world). Yet, he is not recognized here in Canada and he can not obtain a licence. As far as I am aware, the health system in UK is advanced and superior. what is wrong!!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 02:32:02 pm »



try the the michner institute, give them a call...they deal with healthcare professionals. 

http://www.michener.ca/


Shame on the health system here in Canada. the husband of my friend has been in Canada for 9 months after landing. he immigrated from UK to join and reunite the family. he had been a doctor specilaist there in UK. His high qualification and training were done in UK. He achievd Fellowship and MD there (both are the highest qualification in anywhere in the world). Yet, he is not recognized here in Canada and he can not obtain a licence. As far as I am aware, the health system in UK is advanced and superior. what is wrong!!!!!!


It is their country, their government and their rules. They play the music. We who chose to come here must learn how to play by their rules, dance to their music. Granting that the health system of the UK has the highest qualification in the world, Canada doesn't know the person who has just moved in here. So what better way to introduce one's self, prove one's self than to pass their licensing exams, pass the required certifications. Just my thoughts though on the required certifications.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 02:51:38 pm »

Shame on the health system here in Canada. the husband of my friend has been in Canada for 9 months after landing. he immigrated from UK to join and reunite the family. he had been a doctor specilaist there in UK. His high qualification and training were done in UK. He achievd Fellowship and MD there (both are the highest qualification in anywhere in the world). Yet, he is not recognized here in Canada and he can not obtain a licence. As far as I am aware, the health system in UK is advanced and superior. what is wrong!!!!!![/b][/color]

It is their country, their government and their rules. They play the music. We who chose to come here must learn how to play by their rules, dance to their music. Granting that the health system of the UK has the highest qualification in the world, Canada doesn't know the person who has just moved in here. So what better way to introduce one's self, prove one's self than to pass their licensing exams, pass the required certifications. Just my thoughts though on the required certifications.
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Most Canadians are struggling to find a family doctor. Too many rural areas are deprived from having their own doctors. It is true that it is their music and instruent to play with. But we are Canadians too and we pay the price from the shortage of the medicals docs'. If a doctor has a licence that he/she could practice safely in a western country, why can't he/she do the same in Canada Huh!!
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 06:03:56 pm »

We should open a club called "Odd Job Elite Professionals"  OJEP, Canada the land of dreams with no milk and honey
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 08:33:58 pm »

well is the sad thruth i have a medical degree.. and i have to take expensive exams and long procedures to might have a chance... i agree if they open migration for Doctors and other jobs why they dont help with a trainment or something that make thenm sure we have a good knowledge and practice....
anyways i have hear that is easier to apply in the US get certified there and be accepted in canda so can be another try havent look deeper on that...
i also have hear that for healtcare apply on provinces like saskachewan and new foundland might help to get the license
so good luck and maybe we really need to make a club or something so the goverment move the goverment to change the rules o create some new to help the newlanders
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 10:50:27 pm »

Looks like I've opened a can of worms here.

I want to reply to everyone here who's made a point or two and I'm sorry if I've missed anyone.

Karlshammar: We've looked into it and they direct her to the governing body of Med Lab Tech's

maua: Not as easy as you think. My wife and I aren't spring chickens, I'm 38 and she's 45. We both have children from previous marriages so taking a year off of work so that she can attend classes for two years isn't really an option. We both have child support payments to keep up and with the difference in money between dollars and pounds I/we can't afford to have only me working.

Paddyboy: Haven't a clue why. The governing body who will be conducting my wife's assessment was more than happy to take the $700 to do it but have no desire or need to help in helping obtain certification.

UK2TO: Thank you for the link and we've already contacted them. They'll help put together a course that will help bring her up to Cdn standards but like I said to maua, it's more a money issue where my wife would be off of work for at least a year and we'd have to move to TO to do it.

Halifax-Maple: I couldn't agree more and from what I've heard, yes the UK does have a better and more advance system for qualifications

job_seeker: To use a Genesis song: I can't dance, I can't talk, the only thing about me is the way that I walk. I'll ask you this though, why can I walk straight into a job in the UK working in the trades but a Brit doing the same job as me coming here can't do it unless they pass a series of tests and a final exam? If I was to fall ill while over there does that mean I should be worried about the care I would receive because they're health care system isn't as good as ours?

alpesantezo: My wife has contacted Saskatchewan and they said they'd be willing to work with her in obtaining her certification once she's received her assessment. We think that it's great that they're willing to do this but it's too bad we don't have that same option here in our own home province.

This is not meant to sound racist or to make me out to be a biggot, but, I can understand that some countries, or continents, might not be up to our standards in health care and other fields of work and that Canada can't give out certification like some other countries do, but, isn't the UK, US, Australia and other G8 countries on the same page as us?


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Karlshammar
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2009, 02:59:20 am »

Many foreign credentials are recognized in Canada, however, they may require you to jump through some hoops to be recognized.

This is not direct to a specific person (mentioning this so I don't hurt any feelings here): If you immigrate to a foreign country while working in a highly regulated occupation requiring licensing, and you don't even make the most basic research as to what is required to engage in that occupation in the new country, is the fault with that country or with you? Food for thought...
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