Tough question for experts moslem with 2 wives who goes to Canada?HELP

[Maaties]

oh its not going lol and i see good academic jobs in Canada for next year. If i had PR, then application would make it easier. One of the jobs specifically say, PR and citizens would be given priority.

How are you doing? Hows your application going?

[mahharrouf]

There should be some fair solutions for moslems married to two because it is legal and not criminal under the Islamic law, isn't it the same like having two girlfriends at the same time?!

Mahharrouf, do you know if the rule about divorce and communication could be different among Shias? I notice that the applicant is from Iran so probably a Shia.

Rupeshhari, per my knowledge, Shias are msulims too and basic rules are same for all. For satisification, here on forum is one member is from Iran, I have sent him message and as I will get reply, will let youi know all.

This is all if that applicant knows and accept/respect religion rulings, otherwise he can do any thing, hope you got me , in this case, what BCguy said above would be only option for him.

[New2Canada]

There should be some fair solutions for moslems married to two because it is legal and not criminal under the Islamic law, isn't it the same like having two girlfriends at the same time?!

There is a solution. Divorce one. It being legal and not criminal under Islamic law doesn't mean it is legal and not criminal under Canadian law. Just like bad movies (*censored word*ography) in the reverse. It is legal and not criminal under Canadian law doesn't mean....

Rupeshhari, Maharouf - According to my friends, the laws regarding marriage and divorce between Shias and Sunnis are somewhat different. He pointed me to this website as an example http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/tmpmrig.htm

[BobbyB]

oh its not going lol and i see good academic jobs in Canada for next year. If i had PR, then application would make it easier. One of the jobs specifically say, PR and citizens would be given priority.

How are you doing? Hows your application going?

I am fine Man. Just enjoying the warm weather for a change here in the UK for now. No news yet from CIC London. Like always "in process". Hoping to expect something around OCT2009/Nov2009, if my calculations are right.
If not, like I have always said I would have to opt out and go for a Plan B as I think time might be running out on me (LOL). Anyway, still hoping for the best.

I am surprised about your case though, I would have thought yours should have been sorted a lot faster, taken into consideration when and where you applied.
Best Wishes.

[Hopeful Canadian]

Dear BC Guy

I know that Polygamy is accepted Legal in United States - Only for Mormons, NOT FOR MUSLIMS.

What the Canadian Law says about it - I do'nt know.

Does anybody know about any such permission of the Canadian Marriage Laws like regarding Polygamy Permission  for Mormons or other Group / Minority ?

I would like to know about this matter. This is indeed an intersting discussion and situation.

Always Hopeful

Hopeful Canadian

[ahmedj83]

How about this suggestion:-
1- The guy can bring only one of the wives as the official wife (with supporting documents..etc).
2- without divorcing the 2nd wife, and since he is rich, the 2nd wife can apply for immigration as investor by investing money in canada and then she can come over with her kids and live in canada.

by that solution, all the wives will be in canada...with their husband.

would that work ?

[Maaties]

I dont think polygamy is legal in the US. It is a misdemeanor in some and felony in most.

[maple]

There should be some fair solutions for moslems married to two because it is legal and not criminal under the Islamic law, isn't it the same like having two girlfriends at the same time?!

There is a solution. Divorce one. It being legal and not criminal under Islamic law doesn't mean it is legal and not criminal under Canadian law. Just like bad movies (*censored word*ography) in the reverse. It is legal and not criminal under Canadian law doesn't mean....

Rupeshhari, Maharouf - According to my friends, the laws regarding marriage and divorce between Shias and Sunnis are somewhat different. He pointed me to this website as an example http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/tmpmrig.htm

[maple]

I believe it is a matter of principal. It is up to the man to choose which is more  important, his wife #2 and her children (his children) or pr! What is the fault that the #2 wife did so she gets divorced? There should be a more reasonable solution for Muslims with two wives.It is well known in the Islamic law that a man can marry up to four wives ( provided he is able to give them a good life and fair treatment), so Canada immigration law  should look into this issue and find some good solutions that do not force Muslims to make bitter choices about their personal life, especially when it comes to marriage and children.

[New2Canada]

The question becomes should Canada change the law to allow a woman to stay married to a man who would have divorced her otherwise (i.e. he does not love her). Maybe she would be better off divorced.

If such laws are changed then some Canadian might cross the border to Utah, convert and be right back to Canada with two wives. Actually, one doesn't have to cross to Utah to convert and conversion is a quick process.

Wouldn't it be unfair for muslims from outside Canada to immigrate and live in Canada legally with two wives but not for Canadian born muslims to have two wives. Canada, surely, should look after its own muslim population before muslims from outside.

My Pakistani father sarcastically asks this question - should laws be changed to allow for honour killing, etc because some of these may be legal in some countries and is a well known fact it is legal in some countries. It would be unfair to expect a man not to have protected his family's honour and still not able to immigrate to Canada. Do you see my point?

[Maaties]

Legally, what is the best option for this man based on current laws?

Ahmedj83 - your advice might work but would he not have to divorce his other wives first?

[PMM]

Hi

I believe it is a matter of principal. It is up to the man to choose which is more  important, his wife #2 and her children (his children) or pr! What is the fault that the #2 wife did so she gets divorced? There should be a more reasonable solution for Muslims with two wives.It is well known in the Islamic law that a man can marry up to four wives ( provided he is able to give them a good life and fair treatment), so Canada immigration law  should look into this issue and find some good solutions that do not force Muslims to make bitter choices about their personal life, especially when it comes to marriage and children.

Not willing to respect the laws of the country where they emigrate?  (Polygamy is illegal in Canada) Then they shouldn't come.

PMM

[BobbyB]

Hi

I believe it is a matter of principal. It is up to the man to choose which is more  important, his wife #2 and her children (his children) or pr! What is the fault that the #2 wife did so she gets divorced? There should be a more reasonable solution for Muslims with two wives.It is well known in the Islamic law that a man can marry up to four wives ( provided he is able to give them a good life and fair treatment), so Canada immigration law  should look into this issue and find some good solutions that do not force Muslims to make bitter choices about their personal life, especially when it comes to marriage and children.

Not willing to respect the laws of the country where they emigrate?  (Polygamy is illegal in Canada) Then they shouldn't come.

PMM

I fully agree with PMM. Those who cannot abide by the rules, regulations and laws of a country, should stay put where they are. 
In my view, Divorcing for Immigration purposes is just not on.

[juanda78]

Not willing to respect the laws of the country where they emigrate?  (Polygamy is illegal in Canada) Then they shouldn't come.

PMM

I totally agree.

[maple]

I agree too, better continue one's previous and normal life than live in such confusion and hesitation.