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Express Entry points change between ITA and APR

birk_feed_me

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Feb 7, 2017
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I just received my case notes and it appears that somewhere between applying for express entry and submitting my full PR application I shortened the length of experience in one job by a couple of months - I must have mistyped in the original work history form.
When I initially applied, I had 491 points (points threshold for my round was 491), after submitting my points dropped to 483.
This has been noted in my Case Analysis notes and says "Review Required".
Has anyone seen this situation before and know the outcome?
The points threshold in the rounds since my application has been lower than 483 - do you think this would be taken into consideration?
Could I submit anything to stop a rejection?

Thanks for your assistance
 

nj1234

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May 11, 2016
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/invite.asp

Candidates are responsible for ensuring that the information in their Express Entry profile is up-to-date and accurate at all times.

Candidates’ Express Entry profile is automatically “locked” when they are issued an ITA. Candidates can only revise their profile information if they formally decline the ITA through their online account; however, their information may be updated in their APR. When a candidate declines an ITA, they are automatically returned to the pool and will be able to update their profile information, as they wait for a new ITA.

If a candidate realizes after having been issued an ITA that their circumstance has changed or that the information in their profile, on the basis of which they were issued an ITA, is no longer accurate, the candidate is instructed to recalculate their CRS score using the Express Entry calculator on the IRCC website. Examples of changes in circumstance that can impact a CRS score are listed below.

Where there is a change in circumstance and the candidate goes forward with submitting an APR, the candidate must ensure that the change in circumstance is properly reflected in their APR (i.e., the candidate must amend the information that was automatically transferred from their profile to their APR before submitting their application).

As per the Express Entry Ministerial Instructions, candidates are encouraged to decline an ITA if their change in circumstance negatively impacts their eligibility such that they no longer meet the MEC of the federal immigration program to which they were invited to apply, or if their recalculated CRS score falls below the lowest ranked candidate in their round of invitations. Applicants who cannot provide proof of the information provided in their profile, on the basis of which they were invited to apply, will be refused on section A11.2 and assessed for misrepresentation. Cost recovery fees will not be refunded.

Examples of change in circumstance that would impact a candidate’s CRS score

Changes that could increase a candidate's CRS score:

Graduation from a higher level of schooling;
Reaching an additional year of Canadian work experience;
Obtaining a certificate of qualification
Improved language test scores.
Changes that could decrease a candidate's CRS score:

New language test score sat a lower level (e.g., original scores expire and candidate retakes the test, with lower results);
Loss of a qualifying offer of arranged employment.
Change that could either increase or decrease a candidate's CRS score:

Addition of a spouse or common-law partner, since an applicant’s CRS score may increase or decrease, depending on the spouse or partner’s own human capital.
Change for which candidates are not penalized for losing points:

Candidate’s birthday occurs after an ITA was issued (see the Exemption to section A11.2: candidates whose birthday occurs after they receive an ITA section).
 

OMG_Chakromakro

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birk_feed_me said:
I just received my case notes and it appears that somewhere between applying for express entry and submitting my full PR application I shortened the length of experience in one job by a couple of months - I must have mistyped in the original work history form.
When I initially applied, I had 491 points (points threshold for my round was 491), after submitting my points dropped to 483.
This has been noted in my Case Analysis notes and says "Review Required".
Has anyone seen this situation before and know the outcome?
The points threshold in the rounds since my application has been lower than 483 - do you think this would be taken into consideration?
Could I submit anything to stop a rejection?

Thanks for your assistance
could it be because of your birthday ?
 

jes_ON

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30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
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03-Sep-2011
birk_feed_me said:
I just received my case notes and it appears that somewhere between applying for express entry and submitting my full PR application I shortened the length of experience in one job by a couple of months - I must have mistyped in the original work history form.
When I initially applied, I had 491 points (points threshold for my round was 491), after submitting my points dropped to 483.
This has been noted in my Case Analysis notes and says "Review Required".
Has anyone seen this situation before and know the outcome?
The points threshold in the rounds since my application has been lower than 483 - do you think this would be taken into consideration?
Could I submit anything to stop a rejection?
Because the "Expression of Interest" profile only asks for mm/yyyy, it is possible for the profile to calculate more time than actual time using full dates (mm/dd/yyyy), and as a result, many people apply "too soon" or get points that are later deducted.

Do you think this is possibly what happened in your case?

IRCC is supposed to consider the point threshold for your draw only.
 

ahsanemirates

Star Member
Aug 23, 2017
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/invite.asp

Candidates are responsible for ensuring that the information in their Express Entry profile is up-to-date and accurate at all times.

Candidates’ Express Entry profile is automatically “locked” when they are issued an ITA. Candidates can only revise their profile information if they formally decline the ITA through their online account; however, their information may be updated in their APR. When a candidate declines an ITA, they are automatically returned to the pool and will be able to update their profile information, as they wait for a new ITA.

If a candidate realizes after having been issued an ITA that their circumstance has changed or that the information in their profile, on the basis of which they were issued an ITA, is no longer accurate, the candidate is instructed to recalculate their CRS score using the Express Entry calculator on the IRCC website. Examples of changes in circumstance that can impact a CRS score are listed below.

Where there is a change in circumstance and the candidate goes forward with submitting an APR, the candidate must ensure that the change in circumstance is properly reflected in their APR (i.e., the candidate must amend the information that was automatically transferred from their profile to their APR before submitting their application).

As per the Express Entry Ministerial Instructions, candidates are encouraged to decline an ITA if their change in circumstance negatively impacts their eligibility such that they no longer meet the MEC of the federal immigration program to which they were invited to apply, or if their recalculated CRS score falls below the lowest ranked candidate in their round of invitations. Applicants who cannot provide proof of the information provided in their profile, on the basis of which they were invited to apply, will be refused on section A11.2 and assessed for misrepresentation. Cost recovery fees will not be refunded.

Examples of change in circumstance that would impact a candidate’s CRS score

Changes that could increase a candidate's CRS score:

Graduation from a higher level of schooling;
Reaching an additional year of Canadian work experience;
Obtaining a certificate of qualification
Improved language test scores.
Changes that could decrease a candidate's CRS score:

New language test score sat a lower level (e.g., original scores expire and candidate retakes the test, with lower results);
Loss of a qualifying offer of arranged employment.
Change that could either increase or decrease a candidate's CRS score:

Addition of a spouse or common-law partner, since an applicant’s CRS score may increase or decrease, depending on the spouse or partner’s own human capital.
Change for which candidates are not penalized for losing points:

Candidate’s birthday occurs after an ITA was issued (see the Exemption to section A11.2: candidates whose birthday occurs after they receive an ITA section).
Hello , I was reading your post and I can relate to it . I inadvertently added my spouse as accompanying during submission. It resulted in my points decreased to 418, I got ITA at 442 with cut off at 441. My time line is FAWO may 23.ADR is no additional dicuments is needed and BDC is na. I sent CSE last week explaining the mistake I did and informed that the application is supposed to be for me only . I did not get any reply . The question is will they reject my application even after 100 days or they will not penalize for drop of CRS score and consider my application for PPR. Pls help
 

Nvnsuri

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Nov 3, 2016
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Hello , I was reading your post and I can relate to it . I inadvertently added my spouse as accompanying during submission. It resulted in my points decreased to 418, I got ITA at 442 with cut off at 441. My time line is FAWO may 23.ADR is no additional dicuments is needed and BDC is na. I sent CSE last week explaining the mistake I did and informed that the application is supposed to be for me only . I did not get any reply . The question is will they reject my application even after 100 days or they will not penalize for drop of CRS score and consider my application for PPR. Pls help
Hi Mate,

Did you get any update??
 

AmitN84

Member
Mar 16, 2018
10
2
Hello , I was reading your post and I can relate to it . I inadvertently added my spouse as accompanying during submission. It resulted in my points decreased to 418, I got ITA at 442 with cut off at 441. My time line is FAWO may 23.ADR is no additional dicuments is needed and BDC is na. I sent CSE last week explaining the mistake I did and informed that the application is supposed to be for me only . I did not get any reply . The question is will they reject my application even after 100 days or they will not penalize for drop of CRS score and consider my application for PPR. Pls help
Hi

I have the same issue. My points before ITA was 471 and while submitting I had to remove one employment reference which reduced my score to 447, which is still above the cut off.

Did your application get approved?
 

Nvnsuri

Star Member
Nov 3, 2016
158
20
Ontario
Category........
CEC
Hi

I have the same issue. My points before ITA was 471 and while submitting I had to remove one employment reference which reduced my score to 447, which is still above the cut off.

Did your application get approved?

Yes, If your points inside the loop you're fine.
 

AmitN84

Member
Mar 16, 2018
10
2
Yes, If your points inside the loop you're fine.
Not sure what you mean in your points is inside the loop? Also heard that you need to be above the lowest ranked candidate in your round of invitations if your CRS dropped, is that correct?