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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english//information/applications/guides/5527E.asp#tphp idtphp

In order to apply for PR you cannot be inadmissible at the time of application.

TRP's (Temporary Residence Permit - formerly known as Ministers Permit) are only given to people who would otherwise be inadmissible.

Therefore, to be issued a TRP you must be inadmissible - and you cannot be granted PR if you are inadmissible.

See also:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english//resources/manuals/op/op20-eng.pdf

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/resources/manuals/ip/ip01-eng.pdf
 

jaune

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Siouxie said:
Hi there, May I ask a question? In what way do you think you have "implied status" ?

You either have legal status (as in extended visitor permit or from a work/study permit) or you don't have status. I thought I had "implied status" as I had an application for PR in place, however, because I had not renewed my visitor permit I was informed by CIC call centre that I could be deported at any time!
Hi Siouxie!

Back to your story, I just found something contradictory...you said that you had a visa extension still valid for 4 months when you came back but then you said also, you had not renewed your visitor permit? So, didn't you have a valid status before or at the time you re-entered Canada? I was wondering if that's the reason why they were questioning you...

Also, how long did you stay in Canada BEFORE leaving for UK to take your documents?
 

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jaune said:
Hi Siouxie!

Back to your story, I just found something contradictory...you said that you had a visa extension still valid for 4 months when you came back but then you said also, you had not renewed your visitor permit? So, didn't you have a valid status before or at the time you re-entered Canada? I was wondering if that's the reason why they were questioning you...

Also, how long did you stay in Canada BEFORE leaving for UK to take your documents?
Nothing contradictory what-so-ever.

I was in Canada for around 1 year 8 months prior to flying to the UK. I had successfully applied for several extentions and had approximately 4 months left on the last one when I returned to the UK.

I went back to the UK in December 04 to collect documents necessary for my Inland application for PR. I was questioned extensively on my return. (I haven't left Canada because of that since December 2004.)

When I re-entered Canada from my journey to England (in December 04) I was given 6 months.

My Inland application was received by CIC February 2005.

I applied for an extention in June 2005 and was given 1 year.

I received AIP in January 2006.

When my 1 year permit expired in June 2006 I didn't apply for another one as I mistakingly believed I did not have to have one as I had an application for Spousal PR in place and AIP (silly me).

From June 2006 -January 2010 I was without status.

Clear enough?

;)
 

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Hi,

I need some good advise please,

I have applied for Family Class Spouse Inland and my application was received on the 23rd Feb 2010.

My question is i had to leave Canada in an emergency on 1st April for UK. And now i am going on the 1st May, I haven't heard from Immigration yet and haven't received my client id either. I am really worried if they would allow me entry and not sure if they have me on the system at the airport.

I am a Pakistani National (resided in UK since 2004) and i have a Canadian multiple entry Tourist Visa valid until 4th september 2010.

I would really appreciate if someone good guide me on how to tackle the IO at the border.

Thanks a lot
 
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People are misunderstanding it here i think,just because you are from a visa exempt country does not allow you automatic 6 months stay each time you come its up to the officer at the post he can give you what ever he feels is appropiate,and as for getting back into Canada its the same you can prove all you like to an officer it is to his disgression of what to do with you send you back let you in and for how long.
So dont get the hopes and thinking that each time you come you will be able to come in and dont assume its always 6 months.One day you will show and they will say no,or you will show and only get a two week stay.
Visa exempt or not...the only differnce is a piece of document you have to pay for the rules are the same either way.
So for those thinking they are exempt so they can just show up at the boreder and can stay for 6 months you may be surprised one day that an officer just does not care is in a bad mood or he thinks its a little off key.
So comming from Hong Kong or any other country just because you dont need the visa does not say you are always going to be let in.
 

jaune

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alibaba said:
Hi,

I need some good advise please,

I have applied for Family Class Spouse Inland and my application was received on the 23rd Feb 2010.

My question is i had to leave Canada in an emergency on 1st April for UK. And now i am going on the 1st May, I haven't heard from Immigration yet and haven't received my client id either. I am really worried if they would allow me entry and not sure if they have me on the system at the airport.

I am a Pakistani National (resided in UK since 2004) and i have a Canadian multiple entry Tourist Visa valid until 4th september 2010.

I would really appreciate if someone good guide me on how to tackle the IO at the border.

Thanks a lot
alibaba, you mean you're coming back on 1st JUNE right? I read about your story weeks before when you were hesitating between withdrawing your inland application and re-applying outland from London, you still haven't come back to Canada since then?

Someone said that it would be easier for a multi-entry visa holder to come back in because your reasons of visiting Canada were already established beforehand, however, in case they find your application is on the system, you will face the issue of Dual Intent. I guess nobody could guarantee what you could say in order to ensure your re-entry, you could take the chance that they still don't see you on their system and pass the customs by showing your multi-entry visa, but once they discover that you have an app in progress, you should tell the truth, so prepare a good reasonable story to tell.

If I were you, I'd go back to Canada asap if your mission in London was accomplished. Also, is your partner accompanying you while coming back to Canada? That would be something important to do too I guess.
 

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jaune said:
alibaba, you mean you're coming back on 1st JUNE right? I read about your story weeks before when you were hesitating between withdrawing your inland application and re-applying outland from London, you still haven't come back to Canada since then?

Someone said that it would be easier for a multi-entry visa holder to come back in because your reasons of visiting Canada were already established beforehand, however, in case they find your application is on the system, you will face the issue of Dual Intent. I guess nobody could guarantee what you could say in order to ensure your re-entry, you could take the chance that they still don't see you on their system and pass the customs by showing your multi-entry visa, but once they discover that you have an app in progress, you should tell the truth, so prepare a good reasonable story to tell.

If I were you, I'd go back to Canada asap if your mission in London was accomplished. Also, is your partner accompanying you while coming back to Canada? That would be something important to do too I guess.
I am travelling myself, my partner can't take work off at the moment to travel with me. I heard in case of extreme emergency they could allow people back in. But you are right its totally on the officer.
 

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i am still not sure what sort of excuse is good enough for the officer, thats my main concern...
 

jaune

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Then, may I ask what your reason of going back to London?

I don't think you should find any "excuse", just explain to them with honesty and show them you have everything in order, I mean...you have no choice now and you have to come back to Canada asap to wait out your app, so just prepare yourself as best as you could, i.e. showing you and your partner are still in touch while you are not here in Canada, family ties back in England, good job references, anything you can think of so as to convince the officer that you are conforming all of their expectations.

I heard that having your partner wait for you at the airport will be a plus too when you come back, so maybe you should try every possibility to enhance your chance of coming back in...
 

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jaune said:
Then, may I ask what your reason of going back to London?

I don't think you should find any "excuse", just explain to them with honesty and show them you have everything in order, I mean...you have no choice now and you have to come back to Canada asap to wait out your app, so just prepare yourself as best as you could, i.e. showing you and your partner are still in touch while you are not here in Canada, family ties back in England, good job references, anything you can think of so as to convince the officer that you are conforming all of their expectations.

I heard that having your partner wait for you at the airport will be a plus too when you come back, so maybe you should try every possibility to enhance your chance of coming back in...
Its a personal family matter but yea i will tell the truth and can you please tell me what do you exactly mean by (you have no choice now and you have to come back to Canada Asap to wait out your app) Do you mean i should tell him i am coming back to pursue my pending application and life with my Partner in Canada?. I would only say that if they have me on the system and take me for an interview. Then i will give them my reason for leaving etc etc.

If they don't know my application is pending than i would only say i am coming to see my partner.

And yes my partner will be at the airport to pick me up..
 

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I see what you mean. I should convince the IO that if my inland application is denied then i would leave Canada, and thats the reason i should show my Family Ties in UK.
 

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I have found this interesting post on the net dated 2002, hope all of you find it interesting too. I am going to read it again in detail later on this evening.

Operations Memoranda - Overseas Processing


Manual

OP, PE, IP
OM number

OP 00-31, PE 00-26,
IP 00-10
Date

25 July, 2000
NHQ policy file no.
IMM 0750 no.

2055
Title

Clarification of Dual Intent
Type of OM

[ x ] For eventual
manual text
NHQ Contact

Economic Policy and Programs
In consultation with Port of Entry Management
[ ] Not destined
for manual text
(one-time
instruction only)
Branch

Selection Branch
Expiry date

25 July, 2001


Summary:

The purpose of this OM is to provide further guidance on the issue of dual intent

Background:

OP9, The Manual Chapter on Processing Visitors, says the following:

"4.2 Visitors with immigrant applications pending

The fact that a prospective visitor has an immigrant application pending or is planning
to apply for permanent residence is not, in itself, grounds to refuse to issue a visitor
visa. A person may have the dual intent of immigrating and of abiding by the
immigration law respecting temporary entry. The person's desire to visit Canada is very
often legitimate."

In addition, PE6 section 3.5, The Manual Chapter on Examining Visitors, states the
following:

"…The person's desire to await in Canada the outcome of an immigrant application
being processed outside Canada may be legitimate. You should distinguish between
such a person and an applicant who has no intention of leaving Canada if the
immigration application is refused…You should grant entry as a visitor to a person who
is an applicant for landing in Canada and who has received a favourable
recommendation for processing. The duration of time you grant may correspond to the
anticipated date of landing."

Clarification:

It is the present intention of the applicant which should be assessed when a person
applies to visit (including working and studying in) Canada. The applicant may have a
stated long-term goal of immigration to Canada, but if they satisfy the officer that they
have the ability and intention to enter Canada for a temporary purpose, a visa and/or
entry may be authorized. A person who is authorized to enter for a temporary purpose
should demonstrate a willingness and ability to leave Canada at the expiry of their
visitor status (where they have not sought, and been granted, an extension).

In Mittal v. MCI (1998, FCTD, May 28, 1998, IMM-2751-97, IMM-2752-97) the court
accepted that in applying section 9(1.2) of the Act "…the general question of bona
fides is not so much whether the applicant is a prospective immigrant, but
whether the applicant is a prospective illegal immigrant". The question is whether
a person seeking temporary entry at present, who may seek permanent residence in
the future, is likely to comply with the terms of their temporary status and leave Canada
upon the expiry of that status, regardless of whether an application for permanent
residence is pending. This allows for the issuance of visitor visas, or granting of visitor
status, to immigration applicants such as potential entrepreneurs who wish to conduct
an exploratory trip to Canada.

In determining whether a person does have a temporary intention, visa officers still have
the authority to examine the full situation of an applicant. In MCI v. Chun Hin Wong
(June 23, 1999, A-533-97) the Federal Court of Appeal firmly held that a visa officer is
entitled

"even at the moment of the first application for a visa, to examine the
totality of the circumstances including the long term goal of the
applicant. Such goal is a relevant consideration, but not necessarily
determinative, to be weighed with all the other facts and factors
[Such as the ties to the country of origin, whether there are credible
reasons for wishing to study in Canada, the age of the applicant,
whether prior acceptance has been obtained from an educational
institution in Canada and the likelihood of return to the country of
origin] in determining whether or not an applicant is a visitor within
the terms of the definition provided in the Act.".

This means that a visa or immigration officer can take into account not only the present
situation of an applicant, but also a long-term goal of immigration in determining
whether an applicant qualifies for temporary entry to Canada. For example, if the officer
feels that an applicant, by spending a temporary period in Canada, will be either
unwilling or unable to return and re-integrate into their own society, a visa for temporary
entry should be refused. The officer may take into account not only the present
application, but the fact that the applicant has the intention to apply for extensions of
status once in Canada.

Example Situations:

Outlined below are both (I) situations where an officer may determine that an applicant
has a genuine intent to enter for a temporary period, and (II) situations where the officer
may determine that the applicant does not have a bona fide temporary intent. These
examples are meant to be illustrative, and not determinative. Visa and
immigration officers must continue to consider each application on its own merits.

I. The following are some examples of situations where an officer may reasonably
conclude that an applicant (notwithstanding a stated intention to eventually obtain
permanent residence) meets the requirements for issuance of a visitor visa (and/or an
authorization to work or study), or admission at the port of entry: Note that in all five
sample cases described below, the applicants’ situation in their home country is such
that they could return and easily re-integrate back into their society.

1.Ms. X has applied for permanent residence in the Entrepreneur category. At her
interview, the visa officer has encouraged her to make an exploratory trip to
assess the viability of her proposed business venture, and to report back on the
results of her trip.
2.A holder of an employment authorization, Mr. B has been working for a Canadian
company for the past two years. He recently submitted an application for
permanent residence to Buffalo which is currently in process. His employment
authorization is about to expire, so he has applied for an extension to CPC
Vegreville and included a continuing offer from his Canadian employer.
3.Ms. K has been accepted to do her Master’s degree at a Canadian University.
She has been granted scholarship funds and a Teaching Assistant position. She
has admitted that if she likes Canada, and is accepted, her goal is to eventually
become a permanent resident (and later, a citizen). For the time being, she only
wants to study and work in Canada.
4.Mr. P, a recent high-school graduate, has applied to study English as a Second
Language (ESL) and has been conditionally accepted into a college program, yet
to be determined. Post-secondary education opportunities in his country are
limited. The parents of the applicants have accumulated sufficient funds over their
20-year working lives to pay all expenses. Upon completion of whatever program
the applicant is accepted into, the family’s life savings will be exhausted. The
applicant comes from a country/region of high unemployment and limited
socio-economic opportunities.
5.Mrs. L’s stated intention is to conduct an "immigration exploratory trip". She has
yet to submit an immigration application. She has family, employment, and assets
in her country of nationality / residence.

II. The following are some examples where an officer may reasonably determine that
there is doubt about whether the applicant has a genuine temporary intent. There may
be doubt about whether the following applicants have the ability and willingness to both
enter and leave Canada at the expiry of their visitor status.

1.C, a 10-year old boy from a country where the common language of work and
study is not English or French, applies to come and live with his Canadian uncle
and go to school in Canada. The boy’s mother says that she wants her son to
complete the whole of his education (through university) in Canada.
2.Young Mr. R applies to visit his fiancée in Canada. They plan to get married in his
country in 6 months and she will sponsor him for immigration, but in the meantime
he would like to just visit with her in Canada. He lives in a country which is far from
Canada and he is unemployed.
3.Mr. and Mrs. T are the parents of a Canadian citizen. They would like to visit for 6
months to see their son and see if they like Canada. Their stated intent is to apply
for landing from within Canada if they like it there.

Note that in both the first 5 examples and in the latter 3 examples, the officer may or
may not, after examining all the circumstances of the application, conclude that the
applicant meets the requirements for issuance of a visitor visa or student/employment
authorization, or admission at a port of entry. Each application must continue to be
assessed on its own merits. The examples are given just to illustrate cases where a
stated intent to immigrate may not preclude a genuine temporary intent, and cases
where a stated intent to enter temporarily is in reality an intent to enter permanently
without an ability or willingness to leave Canada. Ultimately, the officer must be
satisfied that the applicant who seeks admission as a visitor is a bona fide
visitor, notwithstanding evidence of an intent to immigrate.

Despite the fact that CIC allows for in-land immigration applications on humanitarian
and compassionate grounds, the principle that applications for immigration must be
made abroad still applies. If the officer believes that a visitor applicant would not be
willing or able to leave Canada at the expiration of their visitor status, then the applicant
should not be granted a visa/granted entry as a visitor.

Specific Instructions for Immigration Officers at a Port of Entry:

Immigration officers must be able to satisfy themselves that a person who has an
application for permanent residence in progress or intends to apply for permanent
residence while here will comply with the requirements of the Immigration Act and
regulations governing temporary entry. If officers are satisfied that the person will leave
Canada in order to have their application for permanent residence processed at a
mission abroad if, for any reason, their application from within Canada is refused then,
in line with the recognition of "dual intent", the person may, if otherwise admissible, be
admitted to Canada as a visitor.

Bona fide visitors:

The following Instructions apply in cases where a person deemed to be a bona fide
visitor at a Port of Entry also indicates that they plan to apply or are in the process of
applying for permanent residence in Canada:

Document these visitors on a Visitor Record (Form IMM 1097/1442.) For persons
who do not have an application for permanent residence already in progress, the
duration of the Visitor Record should be six months (thus, giving the visitor a time
limitation in which to submit an application for permanent residence to CPC
Vegreville). If the person already has an application for permanent residence in
progress, the duration of the Visitor Record should be of sufficient period of time
to allow the finalization of the application. In the absence of information indicating
when an application for permanent residence that is already in progress will be
finalized, officers should normally issue a visitor record for six months. There is no
cost recovery fee for this Visitor Record.
Counsel these visitors (and, where applicable, their "sponsors") regarding the
process for applying for permanent residence both from inside and from outside
Canada and for applying for an extension of visitor status. The consequences of
not following through with an application to the CPC should be clearly explained
(e.g. Expiration of visitor status, fees for re-instatement of status, possible
issuance of removal order, etc.). The fact that the person and/or sponsor was
counselled should be entered into the remarks section of the control document
(e.g. "counselled re: AFL process/kit issued").

Immigrants and Non-bona fide visitors:

Officers are not required to assess the bona fides of the claimed family class
relationship at a port of entry, or otherwise make an eligibility determination for potential
immigrants. However, in cases where there are obvious or significant reasons to doubt
the bona fides of the claimed relationship (or where the potential "sponsor" is
ineligible), and/or the officer is not satisfied that the person complies with all the
requirements of the Immigration Act and regulations, the officer (bearing in mind that
persons who seek admission rarely express their intent the same way the legislation is
written) may proceed as follows:

1.If the person is seeking admission as an immigrant (e.g. the person declares that
they are seeking admission to reside in Canada and have no plans to return to
their country of permanent residence) allow the person to leave Canada forthwith
without completion of a section 20 report (A20(1)(b)) or complete a section 20(1)
report citing A19(2)(d) and A9(1)(immigrant). Refer the report to the SIO with one
of the following recommendations:

Allow the person to leave Canada forthwith; or recommend
Issuance of a Minister’s Permit (code 80, see IP12) valid for 6
months; or
Issuance of an Exclusion Order; or
Direction for an inquiry.

2.If the person is seeking admission as a visitor and the officer doubts whether the
visitor has a genuine temporary intent, allow the person to leave Canada forthwith
without completion of a section 20 report (A20(1)(b)) or complete a section 20(1)
report citing A19(1)(h)(visitor). Refer the report to the SIO with one of the following
recommendations:

Allow the person to leave Canada forthwith; or recommend
Direction for an inquiry.

Which option the officer chooses will depend on the circumstances of each case,
including any humanitarian or compassionate grounds which may exist. If a permit is
issued, the officer should counsel the person to submit an application for permanent
residence at the CPC or at a visa office abroad.

Persons who are determined to be inadmissible to Canada on other grounds (e.g.
medical, criminal, etc.) are subject to the usual requirements (See IP 12). Please refer
to IP-5, Immigrant Applications in Canada made on Humanitarian or Compassionate
(H&C) Grounds.

If applicants are inadmissible, their need to come into Canada immediately must be
clearly demonstrated. The inconvenience of having to withdraw in order to apply at a
visa office for an immigrant visa is not sufficient reason to allow admission. It is
inappropriate to issue a Minister's Permit to an inadmissible person simply to
allow them to make an application for permanent residence from within
Canada.

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Bona fide visitors:

The following Instructions apply in cases where a person deemed to be a bona fide
visitor at a Port of Entry also indicates that they plan to apply or are in the process of
applying for permanent residence in Canada:

Document these visitors on a Visitor Record (Form IMM 1097/1442.) For persons
who do not have an application for permanent residence already in progress, the
duration of the Visitor Record should be six months (thus, giving the visitor a time
limitation in which to submit an application for permanent residence to CPC
Vegreville). If the person already has an application for permanent residence in
progress, the duration of the Visitor Record should be of sufficient period of time
to allow the finalization of the application. In the absence of information indicating
when an application for permanent residence that is already in progress will be
finalized, officers should normally issue a visitor record for six months. There is no
cost recovery fee for this Visitor Record.
Counsel these visitors (and, where applicable, their "sponsors") regarding the
process for applying for permanent residence both from inside and from outside
Canada and for applying for an extension of visitor status. The consequences of
not following through with an application to the CPC should be clearly explained
(e.g. Expiration of visitor status, fees for re-instatement of status, possible
issuance of removal order, etc.). The fact that the person and/or sponsor was
counselled should be entered into the remarks section of the control document
(e.g. "counselled re: AFL process/kit issued").

Immigrants and Non-bona fide visitors:

Officers are not required to assess the bona fides of the claimed family class
relationship at a port of entry, or otherwise make an eligibility determination for potential
immigrants. However, in cases where there are obvious or significant reasons to doubt
the bona fides of the claimed relationship (or where the potential "sponsor" is
ineligible), and/or the officer is not satisfied that the person complies with all the
requirements of the Immigration Act and regulations, the officer (bearing in mind that
persons who seek admission rarely express their intent the same way the legislation is
written) may proceed as follows:

1.If the person is seeking admission as an immigrant (e.g. the person declares that
they are seeking admission to reside in Canada and have no plans to return to
their country of permanent residence) allow the person to leave Canada forthwith
without completion of a section 20 report (A20(1)(b)) or complete a section 20(1)
report citing A19(2)(d) and A9(1)(immigrant). Refer the report to the SIO with one
of the following recommendations:

Allow the person to leave Canada forthwith; or recommend
Issuance of a Minister’s Permit (code 80, see IP12) valid for 6
months; or
Issuance of an Exclusion Order; or
Direction for an inquiry.

2.If the person is seeking admission as a visitor and the officer doubts whether the
visitor has a genuine temporary intent, allow the person to leave Canada forthwith
without completion of a section 20 report (A20(1)(b)) or complete a section 20(1)
report citing A19(1)(h)(visitor). Refer the report to the SIO with one of the following
recommendations:

Allow the person to leave Canada forthwith; or recommend
Direction for an inquiry.

Which option the officer chooses will depend on the circumstances of each case,
including any humanitarian or compassionate grounds which may exist. If a permit is
issued, the officer should counsel the person to submit an application for permanent
residence at the CPC or at a visa office abroad.

Persons who are determined to be inadmissible to Canada on other grounds (e.g.
medical, criminal, etc.) are subject to the usual requirements (See IP 12). Please refer
to IP-5, Immigrant Applications in Canada made on Humanitarian or Compassionate
(H&C) Grounds.

If applicants are inadmissible, their need to come into Canada immediately must be
clearly demonstrated. The inconvenience of having to withdraw in order to apply at a
visa office for an immigrant visa is not sufficient reason to allow admission. It is
inappropriate to issue a Minister's Permit to an inadmissible person simply to
allow them to make an application for permanent residence from within
Canada.
 

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15 July 2011
I must admit, the logic underlying the concept of "dual intent" ( someone may qualify for a temporary visa even though he or she is also applying for a permanent visa) to be baffling.

How can one suck and blow at the same time? If one is planning to come to Canada permanently, how can his/her ties to the mother country be as strong as the ties of someone who has no intent to ever leave the mother country?

Yet applicants from some countries do qualify under "dual intent", while applicants from other countries can't get a TRV to save their lives. Does this depend on which is their mother country? Could this be Immigration's dirty little secret?





. WHileI suspect however (without having data) that these are from "welcome" countries, while those from "less welcome" countries like Colombia and China declaring one wants a PR sounds the death knell for any TRV if one is from a "questionable" country.
 

conurus

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Couldn't quite get the legalese of OP 11 and would seek help...

We sent inland+OWP applications together. My wife got the OWP but no AIP yet, just send the medical/police checks.

So my understanding is, if we leave Canada she must be able to re-enter Canada or if she is inadmissible her PR will flunk.

It says something like the TRP is inadmissible but a TRV is but is her OWP a TRP?

If it makes any difference, the OWP says 'This does not Authorised Re-entry'.