Hello everyone. I have been trying to do a lot of research about this to find out if I qualify for citizenship. I am about 80% sure I do. Here is my background story: I can trace my family in Canada back to the 1700's from my fathers side of the family. We were some of the earliest settlers in Ontario and have had many family members in parliament etc. Out of all of my Canadian family, my grandparents were the first to move to USA before my father and uncle were born. My father was born in 1958 and according to the laws he is a Canadian citizen by descent. He was the first born American. I was born in 1988, I am 25 years old, and as far as I can tell I am considered a Canadian citizen by descent because I was born before the April 2009 law change. I've checked all the scenarios and found that people born even as the 4th generation abroad before 2009 are also considered Canadian by descent. I have also taken the test on the CIC website and I have a problem. It does not say that I am a citizen and it does not say that I am not. This is because my father and I both do not know if my fathers birth was registered with the Canadian government when he was born. According to the new law that shouldn't matter either way, but I am not sure if that affects me? I want to apply for the citizenship certificate. Does my father need to apply for his first just to make sure? Or because I was born before the April 2009 date, do I automatically qualify? How can I provide enough proof of my family lineage also? As far as I've found most people do not know how to correctly interpret the law and have been saying regardless of when you were born after the 2009 law you cannot be a citizen if you are not the first generation born abroad. I have found a website with what seems to be a credible source who's story sounds very similar to mine only my grandfather did not give his citizenship up only my grandmother did. I will post the information here since I can't post links: Question QUESTION: My grandparents were both born in Canada, and subsequently gained Canadian citizenship when the first citizenship law was passed in 1947. In 1951, they were wedded in Canada, and in 1953 they moved to the United States. In 1955 they gave birth to my father on U.S. soil, but neglected to obtain a Resident Born Abroad certificate from the Canadian government for him. He was a U.S. citizen from birth based on U.S. law. In the late 50s or early 60s, my grandparents themselves gained U.S. citizenship. Based on the Canadian laws of the time, that meant that both they and my father forfeited any claim they had to Canadian citizenship. In 1977, a new Canadian citizenship law was passed allowing for dual citizenship, and allowing any number of successive generations of Canadians born outside of Canada to automatically gain Canadian citizenship. However, it was not retroactive, so my father and grandparents were stuck as U.S. citizens only. However, in 1984 I was born on U.S. soil while the 1977 Canadian law was in effect. Though at the time that didn't seem relevant as my father had no claim to Canadian citizenship. Fast Forward to April 2009, and a new Canadian law restores citizenship to my Grandparents, and to their son (my father). This restoration of citizenship is retroactive to the time they either lost their Canadian citizenship or were born, respectively. This new law also limits the number of generations born off of Canadian soil that still retain Canadian citizenship to one. However, as far as I can tell, this one generation limit only applies to people born after the April 2009 enactment. Since I was born in 1984, it seems the 1977 standard would apply. Coupled with the "retroactive until birth" citizenship bestowed upon my father, would that mean then that I am eligible for Canadian citizenship by right of descent? There is another restriction that doesn't apply to me- people born to Canadian citizens after 1977 must show a connection to Canada before their 28th birthday. I was only 25 when the 2009 law passed, so this would not have disqualified me. Thank you for your time and consideration on this matter. ANSWER: Dear Nick, First, you've done your homework and you have basically answered your own question. I would agree that you appear to have a claim to Canadian citizenship. To be sure, you need to apply for a Canadian citizenship certificate. To make an application, follow the instructions on this link: CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATE - APPLICATION PROCEDURES (link removed) Once you have a certificate, you may also wish to apply for a passport. Note that under the new citizenship rules which you have correctly interpreted, your children if born outside Canada after April 2009 would have no claim to citizenship unless they immigrated to Canada later on. Good luck. ---------- FOLLOW-UP ---------- QUESTION: Since my Grandparents and Father are without a doubt eligible for Canadian citizenship, can we all send in applications in one packet, or one packet containing multiple envelopes? Or would we have to all apply separately? Also, for my application, my mother was in no way Canadian. Do I have to fill out the "Mother" section of the Canadian citizenship application? And if so, what would I put for the parts such as how she obtained Canadian citizenship, which she did not do. ANSWER: You may file all applications in one packet containing multiple envelopes. Simply leave blank or indicate N/A for "not applicable" in the "Mother" section for those questions that do not apply. ---------- FOLLOW-UP ---------- QUESTION: Unfortunately I have done further research by reading the revised law, and referencing older versions, and I now believe that I would be ineligible based on the actual text of the law. Specifically, in the April 2009 version of the citizenship act, section 3(a) makes it so that it would not apply to me, because my claim to citizenship would be my father, who himself obtained citizenship through section 1(g) So, the retroactive nature of my father's citizenship does NOT allow him to pass on his citizenship to me, even though I was born within the dates the old law would have allowed for. Unless you can find fault with the above logic. (please???) You can find a copy of the law to review at (link removed) and by doing a simple search for "Citizenship act" (with the quotes) and then clicking on the link near Chapter C-29 Answer Dear Nick, If your father was born to Canadian citizen parents before 1977 then your father should now be deemed a Canadian citizen, and so would you since you were born before April 2009. To be sure, I suggest you make the application for a citizenship certificate for your father and for yourself. That is the only way to obtain a definitive answer. It will cost $75CA per person. Any response and help would be great! I know $75 isn't much to just apply to see if I would be approved but I would rather not waste my money if I was going to be denied. Also would be great to know what proof to provide for my connections to Canada.