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Author Topic: That is really wierd about the government of canada !!!!  (Read 3536 times)
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« on: November 21, 2009, 02:31:25 pm »

That is really strange !! today one of my friends told me that he got his citizenship, he applied under the old rules from UAE, and got his approval three years ago and he got the citizenship without even staying in canada for mor than three months.
He sent his wife and children to prove that he is living in the country, and as soon as they got the citizenship, they left the country going back to the UAE.


Believe me guys that is not the first case which i have seen in that regard. many applicants from KSA, UAE, ....and so on have the same situation since the 1980s, who get the citizenship without living in canada or even knowing anything about the country !!!!

Which kind of immigration is that !!

Is the Government of canada fooling us ! or fooling itself !


They keep saying and posting information about the background checks.......bla bla bla, and many times they delay processing the applications for that bull*censored word* reason ! and at the end, they are not able to check whether a person has stayed in the country for the required period of time to get his citizenship or not ? where is CIC, airport records,.......all of that!!

Do they really not know about those people, or they just ignore that on purpose ?


The question in other way: do they really want immigrants to come to the country and live permanently, or it is enough for them to pay your processing fees,RFPRF, some rent during the first period of time to finish your paper work procedures?

I really have no idea about the answer !! how come they are able to verify the information and background checks for applicants around the world when they are not able to to verify the period of time required from people who are supposed to be living in canada for at least 3 years before getting the citizenship (take in consideration that this verification is made from within their internal system) so no need to check with any other country because it belongs to canada only !


When the immigration officers refuse some applications justifying that (you did not satisfy me that you will be able to establish economically in canada) !

Are those people who got the citizenship without living in the country for more than 3 months able to establish economically in  canada ?(take in consideration that they are not willing to live in the country even after getting the citizenship), "so what is the meaning of  establish economically in canada in that case?"


What is the point of giving the approval for someone because he was very well established in another country but he is not willing to relocate to canada !!!! how do they prioritize the benifit for canada before anything else in such a situation?



I really like this country and that is why i chose to immigrate to canada, however, i have to shed some light on such a questions and enquiries that really need answers from Government canada.

"Unfortunately, there are many people who really would die to immigrate and live permanently in canada get refused".


Thanks for your time guys and please do not feel bad because of my words if any one is in that situation, am just describing in general.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2009, 02:53:01 pm »

I agree with you. I know a lot about this situation.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2009, 03:01:39 pm »

Rightly said....
That is all crap. Rules were made to admit limited number of peoples among lots of applications. Otherwise it is not related to canada economy...

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2009, 03:57:27 pm »

professional 1, hellovn, coolguy001 : All 3 of u are very right. There are many things which are 'double standards' in Canadian system. But soon in this thread, you will see many 'double Canadian' (like chandan) will jump in blind favour of Canada, who r like 3 monkeys of Gandhiji - they don't listen, speak or see anything (bad) about Canada!

If you want to know how Britishers (only in thousands in population) ruled half the world, you must immigrate to Canada! 
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2009, 04:18:13 pm »

Dear friends,

R u sure abt it? I have known lots of guys from UAE, who have running business here, yet r slogging it out in Canada for the 3/5 yrs stay-in period. Some of them r working there, some have established small businesses & flying to-n-fro, every 4-5 months to keep their PR status, business (both locs) & their UAE R/Visas valid. all the while keeping family / children at Canada.

'Coz, if what u say was true, why r they taking all the trouble? And mind u, i am talking abt 12-15 such families in UAE, not abt 1 or 2. Some of them are Specialist Doctors (MDs) who had a flourishing career here.

I am from Dubai.
Applied for FSW.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2009, 06:07:25 pm »

Dear friends,

R u sure abt it? I have known lots of guys from UAE, who have running business here, yet r slogging it out in Canada for the 3/5 yrs stay-in period. Some of them r working there, some have established small businesses & flying to-n-fro, every 4-5 months to keep their PR status, business (both locs) & their UAE R/Visas valid. all the while keeping family / children at Canada.

'Coz, if what u say was true, why r they taking all the trouble? And mind u, i am talking abt 12-15 such families in UAE, not abt 1 or 2. Some of them are Specialist Doctors (MDs) who had a flourishing career here.

I am from Dubai.
Applied for FSW.


If you are not one of those people, why are you angry with the subject ?

I am talking about people who apply and do the landing in canada, then go back to their countries or wherever, and get the citizenship of canada without (meeting the legal requirments of the citizenship) by living in the country not more than three months, one month per year.


The case which i mentioned was the last one that i have seen since the 1980s and not the only one.

If you are not one of those people, you are fine regardless which country you are applying from. the whole subject is about those people & government canada, not the genuine immigrants.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2009, 06:23:45 pm »

 qorax,  vbond007, coolguy001,  hellovn :

Thank you guys for your time to read the thread, i appreciate it

Hope the best of luck for you all.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2009, 07:01:12 pm »

Granted if your source is real... Would you question the entire system if someone crosses RED TRAFFIC LIGHT without a ticket?
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2009, 07:12:19 pm »

Granted if your source is real... Would you question the entire system if someone crosses RED TRAFFIC LIGHT without a ticket?


I do not care whether you believe it or not, just to mention something very important; no one get angry about such a situation except if he is involved in that situation.
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2009, 07:17:05 pm »

First of all, I have noting to do with Canadian Citizenship...

Second, i commented on your questioning entire system.... Generalizing which is not the appropriate frame work...
Again, Thanks for bring it up but in right context... My 2 cents.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2009, 07:26:40 pm »

Sure i have to generalize, because those people who got and still getting the citizenship by turning around the law, are getting their citizenship from immigration canada, not from any one else. so the government of canada is the only responsible on that wrong situation, and they are the only one who is able to fix it.

Critisizing  government of Canada is not against it, it is a constructive critisism to fix the faults in the immigration system and bring the benifit for Canada and for people who are  really  living in canada.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2009, 07:45:58 pm »

Sure i have to generalize, because those people who got and still getting the citizenship by turning around the law, are getting their citizenship from immigration canada, not from any one else. so the government of canada is the only responsible on that wrong situation, and they are the only one who is able to fix it.

Critisizing  government of Canada is not against it, it is a constructive critisism to fix the faults in the immigration system and bring the benifit for Canada and for people who are  really  living in canada.

I beg to disagree, government is not there all the time and this is why people have responsibilities. You can help if you wish, by reporting the crime to the appropriate Canadian agency. I am sure Canadian government will fix it if you report it!
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2009, 08:14:27 pm »


I beg to disagree, government is not there all the time and this is why people have responsibilities. You can help if you wish, by reporting the crime to the appropriate Canadian agency. I am sure Canadian government will fix it if you report it!


Actually your suggestion is a very good one (reporting the crime), but how come they are not able to check that out by themselves when people apply for the citizenship ? it is just some efforts that should be taken on thier database to count the days for people before announcing them as a citizens of the country.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2009, 09:07:59 pm »

Canadian system is the worst in the worst, absolutely the worst.

Please, please give me PR to Canada.

Ironic, isn't it?
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2009, 09:10:30 pm »

DEAR FREND
IF I BE THE OWNER OF CANADIAN  COMPANY (100% SHARE ) AND OPEN A BRANCH OUT SIDE OF CANADA , AND WORK FOR THE BRANCH SOME PART OF YEARS OUT OF CANADA
CAN I  COUNT AND CONSIDER  MY TIME OUT SIDE OF CANADA FOR APPLING CITIZENSHIP?
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