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Author Topic: SPOUSE / FAMILY CLASS timeline MANILA Visa Office PHILIPPINES  (Read 2156876 times)
Earal
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Posts: 271
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Manila
App. Filed.......: 07-07-'10
AOR Received.: 08-25-'10
File Transfer...: 08-09-'10
Med's Done....: 06-24-'10
Passport Req..: 09-16-'10
VISA ISSUED...: 01-25-'11 DM

« Reply #975 on: October 01, 2010, 10:14:43 am »

GUYS ,,,gusto ko lang ipaalam sa inyo na dumating na passport naming mag ina kanina lang 1:30pm...kausap ko hubby ko nong dumating ang delivery man, woowwww,,sobrang saya ko,, d makapaniwala ang asawa ko,,hehehe,,,i'm sure lalo akong d makakatulog mamya nito sa sobrang saya...Ganito pla ang feeling,,,atlast makakasama ko na rin cya,,,yeheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

ILOVEMYWIFE AND BLUE_PLANE,,muzta ang inyo? malapit lang kasi ang manila sa pampanga. kaya nadeliver agad Smiley,,especialy kung nasa manila po kayo,,,mas madali


congrats!!!! finally next step eh sa plane na...yehey!!!
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mahalko29
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Posts: 53
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Manila
App. Filed.......: 25/06/2010
AOR Received.: 14/07/2010
Passport Req..: 14/07/2010
VISA ISSUED...: 02/09/2010

« Reply #976 on: October 01, 2010, 04:58:10 pm »

Mahalko29 is right..nextweek na yan sigurado. Actually d sila tumawag, bigla nalang dumating. KAilan ang flight mo Mahalko29?
Don't worry ILOVEMYWIFE, sigurado kayo ni Blue_plane nextweek na inyo, madalang lang naman lumalampas sa 2weeks after ma DM,, Cheesy
@ seyshane on the 12th of november... medyo matagal pa lot of things pa to do and fix.. ikaw kelan flight mo and san ka sa canada?
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May 25, 2010-CPC-M received PR application
June 30, 2010-approved by CPC-M
July 14, 2010-received AOR(requested for PP and other DOCS.)
July 21, 2010-sent PP and ALL DOCS
September 7, 2010-Decision made
September 14, 2010-VISA recieved
seyshane
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« Reply #977 on: October 01, 2010, 05:53:58 pm »

 @ Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, Smiley,,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana Wink
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dream_05
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« Reply #978 on: October 01, 2010, 06:23:03 pm »

 @  Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, Smiley,,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana Wink

Congrats seyshane!..malapit ka na pala umalis jan...Nakakatuwa naman..God bless..
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Aug.  9, 2010  : Application sent to CPC Mississauga
Sept. 9, 2010  : Sponsor Approved
Sept. 22, 2010: In Process
Oct. 01, 2010  : AOR And PPR Received
Oct. 01, 2010  : Passport sent
Oct. 26, 2010  : DM
Nov. 11, 2010  : VISA received..Thank God..Smiley
embopj
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Posts: 227
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Interview........: November 2010 Approve
VISA ISSUED...: December 2010
LANDED..........: February 2011 - snow storm

« Reply #979 on: October 01, 2010, 07:13:58 pm »

Operational Bulletin 238 -
September 30, 2010
Amendment to Section 4 of the Regulations
Issue

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob238.asp

An amendment to section 4 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations was brought into force by an Order-in-Council decree today, September 30, 2010.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) and Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officers must commence applying the new provision on the day on which it entered into force. Therefore, effective today, CIC and CBSA officers must apply the new provision to all new applications, all applications in process for which a final decision has not yet been rendered and all new and pending appeals before the Immigration Appeal Division (IAD).

Background

The former R4 provision required two mandatory elements for determining “bad faith” relationships:

(a) that a relationship not be genuine; and
(b) that it was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.

Although a “bad faith” relationship exists when either of these related factors is apparent, both elements had to be met when refusing a case under this Regulation and when supporting that decision on appeal.

In addition, the “bad faith” assessment for adoptions was combined in the former R4 with the assessment for marriages, common-law and conjugal partnerships, although the criteria for assessing an adoptive relationship differ from that used to assess the genuineness of the other relationships. An overlap between the “bad faith” assessment for adopted persons entering Canada as accompanying family members and adopted persons being sponsored as members of the Family Class (R117) led to additional ambiguity with respect to the assessment of genuineness for adoptions.

Amended provision

The amended R4 provision provides for each of the two “bad faith” tests to stand on its own and separates the requirement related to spouses, common-law partners and conjugal partners (R4(1)) from that related to adopted children (R4(2)). The amended R4 provision reads as follows:

4. (1) For the purposes of these Regulations, a foreign national shall not be considered a spouse, a common-law partner or a conjugal partner of a person if the marriage, common-law partnership or conjugal partnership

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) is not genuine.

4. (2) A foreign national shall not be considered an adopted child of a person if the adoption

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) did not create a genuine parent-child relationship.

4. (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to adoptions referred to in paragraph 117(1)(g) and subsections 117(2) and (4).

Note that R4(2) applies to the assessment of adoptions which did not conform to the intercountry adoption process, such as domestic adoptions completed in the country of origin, and, therefore, lacked the involvement of provincial adoption authorities.

For greater clarity, within the context of a R4(2) adoption, the term “genuine” is associated with the assessment of the parent-child relationship.

Subsection R117(2) of the Regulations, which deals with the sponsorship of adopted children by citizens or permanent residents of Canada, has also been amended. The addition of subsection (b) now provides for an assessment of the bona fides of the adoption. R117(2) is, therefore, now consistent with R117(1)(g) and R117(4) which also require an assessment of whether the adoption was primarily “for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act”. Hence, there is no need for officers to consider the provisions of R4(2) within the context of a sponsored application for a permanent resident visa for an adopted child which is being processed under section R117 of the Regulations.

The amended Subsection R117(2) is as follows:

R117(2) A foreign national who is the adopted child of a sponsor and whose adoption took place when the child was under the age of 18 shall not be considered a member of the family class by virtue of the adoption unless

(a) the adoption was in the best interests of the child within the meaning of the Hague Convention on Adoption; and
(b) the adoption was not entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Implications
Assessing the bona fides of spousal, common-law or conjugal relationships

These changes will enable CIC and CBSA to deal more effectively with marriages of convenience, an ongoing issue of concern. They will allow officers to determine that a spousal, common-law or conjugal relationship is not bona fide if it is either not genuine or was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring a status or privilege under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Henceforth, only one of the two criteria will need to be present to determine that a relationship is not bona fide.
Assessing adoptions under R4(2)

With respect to accompanying children who have been adopted or children whose adoptions may not be processed under R117, the adoption may henceforth be determined to be a relationship of convenience or entered into in “bad faith” if it was either entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act or does not create a genuine parent-child relationship.
Assessing adoptions under R117(2)

The addition of subsection R117(2)(b) to the Regulations clarifies that the adoption of a sponsored child under the age of 18 cannot be undertaken primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Hearings before the IAD

Since a hearing before the IAD is de novo,as opposed to a judicial review of a decision, the IAD will base its decisions on the law that is presently in force at the time of the hearing and not the law that was in force at the time of the original decision by the officer.

Further information

The following operational manuals will be updated:

IP 5 – Section 12.3
IP 8 – Sections 5.19, and 5.25
OP 2 – Section 5.16, 12, 12.1, 12.2
OP 3 – Section 5.8, 5.9, 7.8
OP 6 – Section 6.4
OP 25 – Section 6.2
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last March 2010 Mississauga received our Application
May 2010 Sponsor has been Approve
May 2010 Papers Has been forward to Manila
June 2010 Addinfo -Red-Passport
Nov 2010 Interview (approve)
Nov 2010 DM
Dec 2010 Visa received
Feb 2011 Landed snowst
Hentaznel
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« Reply #980 on: October 01, 2010, 08:30:58 pm »

Operational Bulletin 238 -
September 30, 2010
Amendment to Section 4 of the Regulations
Issue

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob238.asp

An amendment to section 4 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations was brought into force by an Order-in-Council decree today, September 30, 2010.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) and Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officers must commence applying the new provision on the day on which it entered into force. Therefore, effective today, CIC and CBSA officers must apply the new provision to all new applications, all applications in process for which a final decision has not yet been rendered and all new and pending appeals before the Immigration Appeal Division (IAD).

Background

The former R4 provision required two mandatory elements for determining “bad faith” relationships:

(a) that a relationship not be genuine; and
(b) that it was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.

Although a “bad faith” relationship exists when either of these related factors is apparent, both elements had to be met when refusing a case under this Regulation and when supporting that decision on appeal.

In addition, the “bad faith” assessment for adoptions was combined in the former R4 with the assessment for marriages, common-law and conjugal partnerships, although the criteria for assessing an adoptive relationship differ from that used to assess the genuineness of the other relationships. An overlap between the “bad faith” assessment for adopted persons entering Canada as accompanying family members and adopted persons being sponsored as members of the Family Class (R117) led to additional ambiguity with respect to the assessment of genuineness for adoptions.

Amended provision

The amended R4 provision provides for each of the two “bad faith” tests to stand on its own and separates the requirement related to spouses, common-law partners and conjugal partners (R4(1)) from that related to adopted children (R4(2)). The amended R4 provision reads as follows:

4. (1) For the purposes of these Regulations, a foreign national shall not be considered a spouse, a common-law partner or a conjugal partner of a person if the marriage, common-law partnership or conjugal partnership

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) is not genuine.

4. (2) A foreign national shall not be considered an adopted child of a person if the adoption

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) did not create a genuine parent-child relationship.

4. (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to adoptions referred to in paragraph 117(1)(g) and subsections 117(2) and (4).

Note that R4(2) applies to the assessment of adoptions which did not conform to the intercountry adoption process, such as domestic adoptions completed in the country of origin, and, therefore, lacked the involvement of provincial adoption authorities.

For greater clarity, within the context of a R4(2) adoption, the term “genuine” is associated with the assessment of the parent-child relationship.

Subsection R117(2) of the Regulations, which deals with the sponsorship of adopted children by citizens or permanent residents of Canada, has also been amended. The addition of subsection (b) now provides for an assessment of the bona fides of the adoption. R117(2) is, therefore, now consistent with R117(1)(g) and R117(4) which also require an assessment of whether the adoption was primarily “for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act”. Hence, there is no need for officers to consider the provisions of R4(2) within the context of a sponsored application for a permanent resident visa for an adopted child which is being processed under section R117 of the Regulations.

The amended Subsection R117(2) is as follows:

R117(2) A foreign national who is the adopted child of a sponsor and whose adoption took place when the child was under the age of 18 shall not be considered a member of the family class by virtue of the adoption unless

(a) the adoption was in the best interests of the child within the meaning of the Hague Convention on Adoption; and
(b) the adoption was not entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Implications
Assessing the bona fides of spousal, common-law or conjugal relationships

These changes will enable CIC and CBSA to deal more effectively with marriages of convenience, an ongoing issue of concern. They will allow officers to determine that a spousal, common-law or conjugal relationship is not bona fide if it is either not genuine or was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring a status or privilege under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Henceforth, only one of the two criteria will need to be present to determine that a relationship is not bona fide.
Assessing adoptions under R4(2)

With respect to accompanying children who have been adopted or children whose adoptions may not be processed under R117, the adoption may henceforth be determined to be a relationship of convenience or entered into in “bad faith” if it was either entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act or does not create a genuine parent-child relationship.
Assessing adoptions under R117(2)

The addition of subsection R117(2)(b) to the Regulations clarifies that the adoption of a sponsored child under the age of 18 cannot be undertaken primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Hearings before the IAD

Since a hearing before the IAD is de novo,as opposed to a judicial review of a decision, the IAD will base its decisions on the law that is presently in force at the time of the hearing and not the law that was in force at the time of the original decision by the officer.

Further information

The following operational manuals will be updated:

IP 5 – Section 12.3
IP 8 – Sections 5.19, and 5.25
OP 2 – Section 5.16, 12, 12.1, 12.2
OP 3 – Section 5.8, 5.9, 7.8
OP 6 – Section 6.4
OP 25 – Section 6.2



OMG!  I hope  this wont cause delay  of our applications  lalo na ung mga in process palang na katulad ko.

Let's pray for the  best!
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06-10-2010- application sent to cpc missisauga
06-14-2010-application rcvd
08-18-2010- sponsor apprvd
08-25-2010-strtd  procss n mnla
09-03-2010-PPR
09-08-2010-psprt sent via LBC
09-22-2010- rcvd letter to pay RPRF
11-30-2010-DM
rhizzav
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Posts: 125
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: manila
AOR Received.: june 23
Med's Done....: dec 29 2010
Passport Req..: june 2010
VISA ISSUED...: AUG 04 2010
LANDED..........: OCT 05 2010

« Reply #981 on: October 01, 2010, 10:11:32 pm »

 @  Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, Smiley,,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana Wink

im so happy for you Grin mgkasunod lng tyo ng flight kung sakali Grin anong airlines mo?
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april 2010 sent application
may  approved sponsorship
june16  manila start processing our application
july 15  sent my passport nbi advisory of marriage
aug 12  decision made
AUG 23 VISA RECIEVED
SEPT 03 PDOS
OCT 05 .FLIGHT TO  banff alberta
mahalko29
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Posts: 53
Ratings: +0
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Manila
App. Filed.......: 25/06/2010
AOR Received.: 14/07/2010
Passport Req..: 14/07/2010
VISA ISSUED...: 02/09/2010

« Reply #982 on: October 03, 2010, 07:41:10 am »

 @  Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, Smiley,,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana Wink
tama ka seyshane what important is that i have my visa now Wink
sigurado na ko... sarap ng feeling noh? hanggang ngayon di ko maexplain yung saya na nararamdaman ko!
malapit ka ng umalis Smiley have a happy and safe trip  Cheesy
bound to Winnipeg Manitoba po ako  Smiley
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May 25, 2010-CPC-M received PR application
June 30, 2010-approved by CPC-M
July 14, 2010-received AOR(requested for PP and other DOCS.)
July 21, 2010-sent PP and ALL DOCS
September 7, 2010-Decision made
September 14, 2010-VISA recieved
seyshane
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« Reply #983 on: October 03, 2010, 08:13:23 am »

thanks mahalko29 and rhizzav...Uii 2 days to go alis na si Rhizzav, ako magpapabook palang po tomorow, wala kasing office ngayong weekend  Sad...
Meron naman ako nahanap flight oct 6, kaso mahal naman Cry
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kolehiyala_blues
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« Reply #984 on: October 03, 2010, 09:23:09 am »

ask ko lang..i was nomninated from saskatchewan...the i will apply for permanent residence in manila..my question is under skilled worker ba ko or family class??kc sa skill worker nakalagay dun may provincial nominee..sa family class wala..am soo confused..thanks
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jeans22
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Posts: 258
Ratings: +5
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Manila

« Reply #985 on: October 03, 2010, 09:48:12 am »

ask ko lang..i was nomninated from saskatchewan...the i will apply for permanent residence in manila..my question is under skilled worker ba ko or family class??kc sa skill worker nakalagay dun may provincial nominee..sa family class wala..am soo confused..thanks

If no family member (ie husband, parents, sibling) is sponsoring you from Canada, then you must be under the Provincial Nominee Program. Yes this process is also considered as an application for Permanent Residence but not under the Family Class. Check this link out for more info -

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/provincial/index.asp

Good Luck!!
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08/13/2010-App Filed
08/16/2010-CPC-M Receives App
09/14/2010-Spronsor Approval/File Transfer
09/22/2010-MNL Started App Process
09/30/2010-AOR and PPR Received
10/07/2010-PP Sent
10/26/2010-DM
11/11/2010-Visa Received
11/12/2010-Landed!! Cheesy
mahalko29
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Posts: 53
Ratings: +0
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Manila
App. Filed.......: 25/06/2010
AOR Received.: 14/07/2010
Passport Req..: 14/07/2010
VISA ISSUED...: 02/09/2010

« Reply #986 on: October 03, 2010, 10:04:52 am »

thanks mahalko29 and rhizzav...Uii 2 days to go alis na si Rhizzav, ako magpapabook palang po tomorow, wala kasing office ngayong weekend  Sad...
Meron naman ako nahanap flight oct 6, kaso mahal naman Cry
nakaattend ka na ba ng PDOS or GCP seyshane? ikaw din malapit na yung flight... naku medyo jealous ako kasi makakasam nyo na mga hubby nyo.... ako nakabook na may promo yung agency na napuntahan ko sa mga first time emigrant may promo sila mura ko lang nakuha po P25,300 including the taxes manila-vancouver PAL kasi magmeet up kami ni hubby sa vancouver so ganong flight lang kinuha ko pero yung manila-vancouver-winnipeg P38,300 so mura pa rin yan, diba? magtingin kayo online usually daw sa mga firts time emigrant may mga promo ang airlines...
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May 25, 2010-CPC-M received PR application
June 30, 2010-approved by CPC-M
July 14, 2010-received AOR(requested for PP and other DOCS.)
July 21, 2010-sent PP and ALL DOCS
September 7, 2010-Decision made
September 14, 2010-VISA recieved
Michi08
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Category........: Other
Visa Office......: Manila

« Reply #987 on: October 03, 2010, 10:22:02 am »

Hi! para po dun sa nagpamedical na, ilan days po ba bago makuha ang copy 2? Thank you in advance! Smiley
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April 05,2011 Application sent to CPC-Missisauga
May 07,2011 DM...file tranfer to CEM
embopj
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Posts: 227
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Interview........: November 2010 Approve
VISA ISSUED...: December 2010
LANDED..........: February 2011 - snow storm

« Reply #988 on: October 03, 2010, 10:51:26 am »

Hi! para po dun sa nagpamedical na, ilan days po ba bago makuha ang copy 2? Thank you in advance! Smiley
I believed its 10 working days from the time nga pa medical exam ka or 2 weeks, cnat remeber kung walang problema, pero kung may problema they will call you for recheck again. then they will give you a medical report na ipapasa sa embassy.
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last March 2010 Mississauga received our Application
May 2010 Sponsor has been Approve
May 2010 Papers Has been forward to Manila
June 2010 Addinfo -Red-Passport
Nov 2010 Interview (approve)
Nov 2010 DM
Dec 2010 Visa received
Feb 2011 Landed snowst
plussixthree
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« Reply #989 on: October 03, 2010, 03:01:51 pm »

Hi. Bago lang po ako dito sa thread. Dependent Child po ako. May dumating na letter sakin galing sa Visa Office na nagre-request ng passport ko. Tanong ko lang po kung pwede ko ba dalhin personally sa Visa Office yung passport ko? Kasi nagaalangan yung papa ko na baka mawala daw kapag ipinadala ko via post office o courier. Pwede po ba yun? Tsaka gano kaya katagal bago bumalik yung passport ko? Maraming salamat! Grin
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