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[ella2321]

Not sure about ella's case, pero for me sinubmit ko naman yun CENOMAR ko kasama ng application. But when I got my PPR it also asked for another AOM so kumuha ulet ako sa NSO. Even though married na ako wala pa din record sa NSO ng marriage ko kase it was done abroad. It will take a long time bago daw yun mag-appear sa record ng NSO so sinubmit ko na lang ulet yung CENOMAR with my passport last week. I'm thinking humingi lang ulet ang embassy ng isa pa either because they want an updated AOM (kase yung pinadala ko kinuha ko before our marriage) or they want to verify na wala akong pinakasalang iba after our marriage in the States. Not really sure kung ano ba talaga ang intention ng embassy kung bakit humingi ulet sila ng AOM even though nagsend na ako ng CENOMAR the first time. Hay...

As for documentation na legit ang marriage, I think that's what the marriage certificate is for.

Ginawa ko din yun e. Pumunta ako ng NSO and I showed them my marriage cert kaso sabi nila dapat daw i-report sa embassy abroad kung saan naganap yung marriage and in turn yung embassy ang magre-report sa NSO.


yah i also called NSo about this they told me only phil consulate will report our marriage even you show your evidence that you got marriend in abroad .but i think jean22 is correct aom is like cenomar so i ask my husband to get aom sa nso so im sure na mag appear don is still single but i have a report of marriage that sign from phil consulate so  attached na lng namin yun with letter explaining about what happen with also notarized . kasi sbi ng conulate yung proof nyo is marriage certificate wich di nman pede dayain here in vancouver yun ang sbi sakin kanina and also they told me to notarized yung report of marriage yung marriage certificate at yung letter so para ala maging problema at sbi nila alam naman daw ng embassy na matagal tlaga magregister ng kasal sa pinas ..................
Especially in regards to marriages contracted abroad, I guess the real question is - kelangan bang naka-register sa NSO ang marriage bago ma-process ang immigration? If so, dapat nilagay nila ito sa guidelines/checklist right? Pero ang sabi rin sa checklist - "If you do not have a record of your marriage in the NSO, send a CENOMAR". NAKAKALITO NAMAN SOBRA!!!! What do you guys think?

[ella2321]

try to send written letter sa embassy while procces kung panu ma pa NSO para hidni mag laps ang binigay na date. explain nyo lang na sa ibang bansa ang marriage then kung naayos nyo na process nyo na kung matagal ang waiting lagay nyo din kung ilang months ang waiting time para alam ng embassy na hindi makaka pag provide and nag aantay pa.

yah my husband send his cenomar but ang hinihingi is aom so sbi ng fren same daw yun so may be embassy checking my husband status ala nangayri iba kasal cguro ganon

[ozzman]

ask ko lang mga frends.... 

magkano ang binayaran nyo sa courier para sa pagsend ng passport to embassy? and anong courier ang napili nyo?

and how about kung ibabalik na ng embassy yung passport/visa and other orig documents, babayaran din ba natin yung courier na ginamit nila?

[jalene]

hi jalene

ibig sabihin ba lahat ng yun hininge hindi ba pwed isa lang Baptismal lang, pipili lang dun o lahat talga pati skul record and voters id hininge, yung skul records.

Hello filipina, hindi pwedeng mamili eh, as in kung ano ung ni-request nila na docs sa akin, pinadala ko un lahat. Late registered ka rin ba?

[brookslakeside]

Hi ELLA

The processing time is shorter when the copy requested is for a document that is already "converted", that is, the document is already in the Civil Registration System (CRS) database.
Since you just registered your marriage contract at the Philippine Embassy- Vancouver, British Columbia then it`s still unconverted therefore your husband`s option is to go to NCSO and enquire about "Advance Endorsement"  .  For questions and clarifications you can actually email:  l.hufana @ census.gov.ph


your husband will fill up a form for the Advisory of Marriage request:

Complete name of the person
Complete name of the father
Complete maiden name of the mother
Date of birth
Place of birth
Complete name and address of the requesting party
Number or copies needed
Purpose for the certification

[brookslakeside]

just from the way i've been reading here, manila embassy's been asking a lot of aom's from applicants who've already submitted their aom's or for those who submitted a cenomar to submit an aom..
the only info i can give you is that my husband requested for a cenomar at nso but it wasn't the same cenomar as the one we got before we got married. instead, nso gave us what i assumed was aom since it said something like "name of man is married to name of woman" and the number of times the applicant's been married.

good observation cez, that`s why it pays to request multiple copies just in case mawala or the embassy will make a request again, saves us time.  and also NBI it should be submitted within three months pagka receive sa Mississauga.  so the embassy had to request it again.

[JGS]

Hi Po,

Pano yun, ung CENOMAR na kinuha namin before the wedding hindi yun ang ipinasa namin sa Embassy dahil mali spelling name father inlaw ko. So after the wedding dun kami kumuha ulit CENOMAR, sabi kasi sa NSO hindi pa nakapasok marriage cert namin sa NSO after 2 months pa ipinasok ng judge kaya medyo natagalan.Buti nalang nakahabol pa & nakakuha ng CENOMAR. Ngayon ko lang nalaman na may AOM din pala.. I think okay naman kinalabasan kasi hindi na ulit nagcall embassy sa asawa ko,passport lang tinanong sa kanya...

[Hentaznel]

Hi Po,

Pano yun, ung CENOMAR na kinuha namin before the wedding hindi yun ang ipinasa namin sa Embassy dahil mali spelling name father inlaw ko. So after the wedding dun kami kumuha ulit CENOMAR, sabi kasi sa NSO hindi pa nakapasok marriage cert namin sa NSO after 2 months pa ipinasok ng judge kaya medyo natagalan.Buti nalang nakahabol pa & nakakuha ng CENOMAR. Ngayon ko lang nalaman na may AOM din pala.. I think okay naman kinalabasan kasi hindi na ulit nagcall embassy sa asawa ko,passport lang tinanong sa kanya...

hi JGS!

after your wedding and makukuha u is AOM,  kung  di pa   naka register na marraige niyo  sa nso  di ka pa nga makakauha  ng  aom.
nung nga request ba ng pass port nag request din sila ng aom?

samin nun kasi pina expediate namin para mgakarron kaagad copy nso.. kasi for verification purposes  naisip  pag mag verify  sila  kung totoo ung wedding  ask nila  nso  pag ala  pa marriage certifiacte  namin  nso eh di sasabihin  lang nila  wala  ..


kasi  dun sa letter  ko  they  requested passport and  some documents  one of them is AOM.

if you are  married  AOM  ang kailangan you..
kasi  if you are married  at ang binigay  you is CENOMAR   which  stands  for CERTIFICATE  OF NO MARRAIGE  eh  di  para mong sinabing  hindi  ka pa nga kasal  diba?

anyway.. hope this helps..

dami  nacoconfuse  dito...

God Bless us all!

[Hentaznel]

ask ko lang mga frends.... 

magkano ang binayaran nyo sa courier para sa pagsend ng passport to embassy? and anong courier ang napili nyo?

and how about kung ibabalik na ng embassy yung passport/visa and other orig documents, babayaran din ba natin yung courier na ginamit nila?

hi I paid  155  from La union  to canadian  embassy, passport  with aom, nbi at  form  of personal history..

through LBC

[Earal]

I've been reading some threads here and they mostly said that CENOMAR and AOM are just the same....

But in my own understanding... they are obviously not the same...

CRS Form No. 4 (CENOMAR) refers to a document issued by the NATIONAL STATISTICS OFFICE (NSO) in the Philippines, upon request for marriage, and to certify that a person whether his/her name appears or not appear in the National Indices of Marriages.

CRS Form No. 5 (Advisory on Marriages) refers to a document that is issued/released by the NSO upon request, once a person is  already married. It shows all marriages (current and previous) that he/she have. But when requesting, he/she will use the CENOMAR request form.

 @ fil_love_can: thumbs up!!!!

[Earal]

hi cezvi and earal,

from my understanding, the way to get it is to get a certificate of no marriage (cenomar). if you really aren't married, then they'll give you a certificate that says you aren't and have never been married. if you are, then they'll give you a certificate that says you are married to such and such - which then becomes your advisory of marriage (aom).

hope that helps clear things up!

thanks...same as my view but then i was thinking like in some cases that marriage only occurs once by this time.

[Earal]

ask ko lang mga frends.... 

magkano ang binayaran nyo sa courier para sa pagsend ng passport to embassy? and anong courier ang napili nyo?

and how about kung ibabalik na ng embassy yung passport/visa and other orig documents, babayaran din ba natin yung courier na ginamit nila?

 @ ozzman: LBC ko pindala ang passport namin which is worth P250....and yes may bayad ulit pag idedeliver nila ang passport mo if im not mistaken its worth P350 they usually used air21.

[brookslakeside]

thanks...same as my view but then i was thinking like in some cases that marriage only occurs once by this time.

The Canadian Embassy also wants to make sure that you are not married to another person when you file a spousal sponsorship because if that marriage was not annulled in the case of a Filipino citizen sponsored/sponsor then you are not a member of the Family class and you will be refused  .  The Advisory on Marriages will show how many times you`re married and the names of the person.  So aside from being refused ma criminal charge ka pa ng bigamy.

[filipina]

Hello filipina, hindi pwedeng mamili eh, as in kung ano ung ni-request nila na docs sa akin, pinadala ko un lahat. Late registered ka rin ba?

hindi po ako yung husband koang late registry ang naisama lang nmen e baptismal akala ko kc pwede kahit yung lang. ok thanks for the info pahingin ko nalang sya sa skul nya ng records sa skul ba kinukuha yun?

[cezvi]

hi I paid  155  from La union  to canadian  embassy, passport  with aom, nbi at  form  of personal history..

through LBC

hentaznel san ka sa la union? taga dun din ako..

good observation cez, that`s why it pays to request multiple copies just in case mawala or the embassy will make a request again, saves us time.  and also NBI it should be submitted within three months pagka receive sa Mississauga.  so the embassy had to request it again.

whatever was in the document checklist for the region specific form, linagay ko na lahat sa application namin para walang delay.. kulang na lang eh passport pero my husband will just send that in to the embassy when they request for it.. gusto ko nga eh ilagay na rin sana passport ng hubby ko kasabay ng application namin para hindi na sila magsend ng sulat requesting to submit his passport.. heheheheh 
i still have a long wait though.. hayyy.. kakatransfer lang nila application ko sa manila 2 weeks ago..