Sponsorship from Outside Canada-how to show re-establisment in Can.?

[canthai]

thaihubbie

I probably shouldn't say there are 'no rules', maybe no real guidelines ...

What I meant was you can be creative.  Think of this whole application process as the actual interview.  Someone (Immigration Officers) will be going through your application, who has never met you or your husband and they will be making a decision based on what you give them.  So everything they ask for, and more, is important.

I don't think you need to worry about wages of your job offers.  Since CIC cannot reject a sponsor due to lack of finances, I can't see why they would question finances of potential employment back in Canada.  Although, you should show/prove to CIC that you will be able to provide the necessities (food, clothing, shelter) for your family so that you will not require any social assistance.

Maybe you could ask your parents or friends to write a letter of financial/moral support for you and your family.  This would show CIC that you have more financial stability and that your family is ready and willing to help if need be.  Make sure they sign their letters and give copies of their ID cards to prove it was them who wrote the letter.  Also you could state in your letter of re-establishment that you will be searching for a teaching position in the Fall of 2009 when school begins and that any job you take is temporary until then.  I think as long as the job offer is legitimate (since they may call the employer) I don't see why they would question it.  As far as a potential job not pertaining to your qualifications, I wouldn't worry about this either.  Your teaching experiences/qualifications are solid things to write about in your letter of re-establishment.  Send them copies of your experience/degrees/etc. too!

These are my thoughts, maybe someone else out there can shed some more light on letters of re-establishment with their experiences since I have yet to apply ...

Hope this helps!

canthai 

[thaihubbie]

Perhaps I'm worrying too much before I even start this whole process but could sponsorship of my spouse be accepted then PR rejected or is it automatic? It is hard convincing my husband of the time, effort and money involved after he was rejected twice for a TRV, he took the rejection very hard and was quite offended. Especially, when the officer shoved his Land Title back to him and basically said it was worthless.

[canthai]

thaihubbie,
These are the scenarios for the application:

1) your sponsorship is rejected due to reasons regarding yourself, therefor there would be no sense to proceed with the application anymore.  The application is not sent to Singapore.  You get your application money refunded, less the 75$, and you can change/fix any problem they had and apply again at a later date.

2) your sponsorship is accepted but the PR application is rejected due to reasons regarding the applicant or CIC is not convinced your relationship is genuine (which would be unlikely since you have a daughter!)

3) your sponsorship is accepted and then the applicant is accepted. 


If CIC approves someone for sponsorship, it does not mean they will approve the PR application.  Nothing is automatic here but it would mean the application is moving forward in a positive sense.

I understand how bad it can feel when they told you that they were not convinced your husband wouldn't return back to Thailand.  When we were rejected, it was a very difficult time for us.  We couldn't make any sense of it since we didn't do anything wrong and our intentions were true and honest.  I have learned, since then, to research and know more about the process before going head first.  Immigration is considered to be a serious process that takes much care (you giving CIC all the proper documents) and time (CIC decision).  Consider this... the forms even mention somewhere that coming to Canada is not a right, it is a privilege.

I read a story where a Canadian, who lives and works in Thailand, obtained a TRV for his girlfriend into Canada basically because he had to return to his job... no questions, no interview. 

His g/f had no job, little bit of money, and no assets which blew me away when compared to my wife.  The reason they got the TRV is because the embassy was convinced she (they) would have to return.  Everyone has a different situation which means they have different outcomes.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Trv-Canada-t191379.html

You and your husband have to remember that the PRV process is very different from that of a TRV so it is treated differently.  The Canadian embassy in Bangkok deals with a large volume of couples that wish to temporarily travel back to Canada and visit family/friends and experience what the country has to offer, but this is impossible to convince the embassy of these intentions.  I would think the embassy in Bangkok would only be involved if there was an interview requested and not in the decision process.  So chances are, you will not have to go back to that place, at least, I'm hoping that too!

canthai

[thaihubbie]

Again Canthai you have given me some hope. Upon reading some of the entries on the ThaiVisa Forum I have mixed feelings. Many people stating they have had no problems at the Can. Embassy and others stating it was a nightmare. The most interesting point regarding that is that many members state that the Thai staff at the Can. Embassy in Bangkok 'can make or break your application'. YES!! CAn I give some background? A year or so before my husband applied for his first TRV we went in to the Embassy for the first time to ask some questions regarding obtaining a new passport for me. I was totally dissatisfied with the service I received. The Thai staff couldn't answer my questions probably due to poor english skills and I ended up emailing a complaint and received a reply from a Canadian in charge. So when my b-friend (1st TRV attempt) then spouse(2nd TRV attempt) applied I wondered if this complaint by me a year earlier would be part of the equation. In addition, my husband is very, very shy as he is from the countryside, he is a Palm Oil/Rubber Farmer. He is obviously not a big talker or a charmer per se. In addition, I really felt that the female staff at the Embassy were eyeing me suspiciously of why we were together. They basically couldn't 'figure us out'. After both of his TRV attempts he was given the chance to 'appeal' and Canadian officers came in the booth and spoke to us. They were so rude to me!!! They basically said they were overworked and didn't have time for our problem, meanwhile I was pregnant and having a fit. When I was asking questions and writing the answers in my notebook the Can. officer said 'why don't you write them in your 'lil book'? The second time another Can. officer told me to sponsor my husband and said 'can you afford it'? not knowing about sponsorship at all I honestly answered 'I don't know how much do I need to earn in X province to be eligible'? He answered 'he had no idea'. What on earth is this?
Any thoughts? I am so angry but I hope there is still a way I can do all of this and avoid all of the b-s at that damn embassy.

[canthai]

thaihubbie,
The Canadian embassy in Bangkok does not deal with the decision nor the process of the PRV application.  Your whole application (sponsor forms, applicant forms and evidence) is sent to CPC-Mississauga and if you are approved for sponsorship, the whole application is then sent by CPC-Miss. to the regional office in Singapore.  The only way that Bangkok will be involved is if an interview is requested by the embassy in Singapore to be conducted in Bangkok since your husband lives in Thailand. 

I wouldn't worry about the TRV anymore.  You and your husband will now be applying for a TOTALLY different visa... you can now breathe with relief

canthai