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navneetgarg120
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« on: December 27, 2010, 05:51:30 am »

Is it possible to sponsor a relative as live-in caregiver? My wife is expecting a baby in Feb 2011 and she need whole time caretaker for baby to continue her job in Canada and she wants her aunt/mother to sponsor as live-in caregiver. How feasible it is to sponsor relative as live-in caregiver?
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navneetgarg120
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 06:46:34 am »

Seniors, please provide some information on this.
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Baloo
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 09:10:37 am »

I guess that the first question from immigration would be:

Why would you be unable to use a Canadian, or someone already in Canada?
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 09:43:30 am »

The live-in caregiver needs to have either a 6 month course or 1 year experience to be accepted.  Experience gained in their own home such as a mother having taken care of her own children does not count.

I have heard about close relatives being refused with that given as a reason but as far as I know, there is nothing in the rules that says close relatives can not be hired as live-in caregivers.  I'd say try it.

It will not be a problem proving that you could not find a Canadian willing to work as a live-in caregiver.  It is not a job Canadians tend to be interested in.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 09:53:14 am »

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It will not be a problem proving that you could not find a Canadian willing to work as a live-in caregiver.  It is not a job Canadians tend to be interested in.

What about live in caregivers that are already in Canada?
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 10:48:16 am »

You don't have to worry about live-in caregivers who are already in Canada looking to change employers because to get an LMO, you only have to show that you could not find any citizens or PR's.  You can check that at http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/temp_assessment.shtml
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navneetgarg120
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 10:27:03 pm »

I understand that VO will ask why not existing canadians be live-in caregiver. But if I am comfortable with a close relative who can be live-in caregiver for my kids and I am paying low amount to that close relative than would it still be the cause of visa refusal?
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 10:34:13 pm »

Is that family member qualified (i.e. trained and experienced) in this type of role?

See this link for the qualifications they will have to meet: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/caregiver/index.asp
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 12:51:23 am »

I understand that VO will ask why not existing canadians be live-in caregiver. But if I am comfortable with a close relative who can be live-in caregiver for my kids and I am paying low amount to that close relative than would it still be the cause of visa refusal?

To hire a live-in caregiver, you need to apply for a labour market opinion.  That means you have to advertise the job for at least 2 weeks and you have to offer market rates.  This is your way to prove that no Canadians or PR's want the job and believe me, you do not have to worry about that.  Why should a PR or a Canadian want to deny themselves a personal life to live in your house and take care of your kids?  Believe me, they would much rather work at Safeway or McDs and have their own apartment they can retreat to for their time off.  Most live-in caregivers do what they do because it gets them a PR.  They are often women who are leaving their own children and husbands behind while they serve their 2 years under the LCP to be able to apply for PR for their families.  Ok, sometimes they are also single but I have never heard of one who chose to continue to work as a live-in caregiver after getting her PR.

What a live-in caregiver is supposed to make depends on the province.  They often get around $10 per hour and work 30-40 hours a week.  You may in return charge your live-in caregiver for room and board up to a certain amount.  As an employer, you have to withhold taxes and other deductions from the live-in caregivers wages and hand them over to the authorities.  You also have to give them proper pay slips and a T4 so they can file their taxes.  You will not get a labour market opinion without offering this minimum wage.

The live-in caregiver as I said before needs to have a 6 month course in child care or a 1 year work experience as a live-in caregiver.  Experience gained in the persons home such as your wife's mother having raised her own children does NOT count.  Nurses are often accepted as qualified.  School teachers usually not.

If your mother-in-law meets the requirements for a live-in caregiver, you can try this.  On the papers, you must pay her wages according to contract and you must withhold taxes according to what is on the papers as well.  In reality, you can pay her what you and she agree on but be aware that if you have a falling out, she can sue you for unpaid wages.  This actually happened to a woman who told her story on this board.  She hired a friend of hers as a live-in caregiver, they agreed that she would pay her less than the contract, they later argued and the live-in caregiver sued her for unpaid wages and won.

Although you can try this, I think maybe you would be better off applying for a TRV for your mother in law to help out with the baby.  If she wants to stay, you and your wife can apply to sponsor her for PR as a parent under family class and you can apply to extend her visit status every time it is about to expire.
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navneetgarg120
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Posts: 111
Ratings: +1
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4152
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 27-09-2011
Doc's Request.: 20-02-2012
AOR Received.: 20-12-2011
IELTS Request: 07-11-2009
File Transfer...: 21-01-2012
Med's Request: 20-02-2012
Med's Done....: 10-03-2012

« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 05:15:49 am »

You are really great Leon. Thanks a ton for releasing pressure from my head. I am now assured that with the help of great people like in this forum I can settle down in Canada easily.

Thanks to scylla as well for sharing a wonderful link.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 06:45:43 pm »

Hi,

i'd like to know your insight.

i have a sister who is a Registered Nurse in the Philippines and i would like to hire her under the Live-in Caregiver Program as i feel safer to leave my child rather than to any stranger, right? she just have volunteer works in the hospital for more than a year, had worked under the DOLE's Program (NARS Program) where there are paid by the government for 6 months to work in the hospital too.

questions, can she be qualified under the NARS program?
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 11:21:26 pm »

Can a live in caregiver husband apply for a visitors visa to see his wife or would he be denied..he has a good job so he wnt stay for more than 2 wks. pls let me know..
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2011, 07:06:15 am »

In order not to be denied, he needs to show proof that he will return such as a letter from his employer stating how long he has worked at that job and how long his vacation is.  He could show that he has a house or a lease on an apartment in his home country, a letter from a landlord perhaps.  Any other ties he can think of, elderly parents he must take care of, kids he is taking care of and leaving behind etc.  If immigration feels secure that his is not coming to Canada to work illegally, he will get his TRV.
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