dair2dv8103100
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Rabat
App. Filed.......: 19.05.11
AOR Received.: 16.08.11
File Transfer...: 26.07.11
Med's Done....: 28.02.11/19.03.12
Interview........: 06.03.12
Passport Req..: 28.05.12
VISA ISSUED...: 20.06.12
LANDED..........: Aug 1, 2012
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« Reply #4350 on: November 14, 2011, 02:48:32 pm » |
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I have to see reality. I am going to be 49 in June. My husband is going to be 30 this summer. If we appeal, we have to wait 2 more years. Then, if we win the appeal, we have to re-apply for visa. Another year. I will be 52!!! And I don't have $5000 to appeal
I know the appeal can be lengthy... but I do not believe you have to reapply for the visa?? Or I could be wrong.. maybe someone more senior can answer that....
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dair2dv8103100
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Posts: 988
Ratings: +18
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Rabat
App. Filed.......: 19.05.11
AOR Received.: 16.08.11
File Transfer...: 26.07.11
Med's Done....: 28.02.11/19.03.12
Interview........: 06.03.12
Passport Req..: 28.05.12
VISA ISSUED...: 20.06.12
LANDED..........: Aug 1, 2012
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« Reply #4351 on: November 14, 2011, 02:51:35 pm » |
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Thank you Dair. I am not praying for myself right now. I feel angry at God.
I completely understand... But you have people here that will take care of the praying... sending you a big virtual {{{hug}}}
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CharlieD10
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: KGN
App. Filed.......: 15-02-2011
File Transfer...: 09-05-2011
Med's Done....: 17-01-2011, 08-03-2012
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 30-3-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 13-04-2012
LANDED..........: 06-06-2012
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« Reply #4352 on: November 14, 2011, 02:52:11 pm » |
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No. If you win the appeal you do not re-apply, the visa office is directed to continue processing the file as is. It might go to CPP-Ottawa, and they could either finish it there and direct Rabat to issue his visa or else they will send it back to Rabat to be finished, it depends on the security and background concerns.
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ddobro2
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« Reply #4353 on: November 14, 2011, 02:57:19 pm » |
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And in order for her to make a successful appeal, if that's the road she chooses to go down, she needs to know the specific reasons the immigration officer was not "satisfied" that their relationship was genuine and not solely for purposes of the foreign national immigrating to Canada. Without something more specific than "not satisfied with our relationship. She believes my husband is using me for entry to Canada," (not sure if they're not even required to elaborate on that in the refusal letter) and absent the GCMS notes, Habibti does not have much of a clue as to why the IO made the decision she did, so how can she disprove those arguments? In any case, my heart goes out to her because this was a huge emotional and financial investment.
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Habibti
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Visa Office......: Rabat, Morocco
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File Transfer...: 31-03-2011
Med's Done....: 10-01-2011 / 06-09-2012
Interview........: 12-09-2011 / Denied 4-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...: January 9, 2013
LANDED..........: January 18, 2013 in Montreal
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« Reply #4354 on: November 14, 2011, 03:00:06 pm » |
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No. If you win the appeal you do not re-apply, the visa office is directed to continue processing the file as is. It might go to CPP-Ottawa, and they could either finish it there and direct Rabat to issue his visa or else they will send it back to Rabat to be finished, it depends on the security and background concerns.
How long??? We had plans, projects and dreams! How long do we have to go through all that? And how much money?
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CharlieD10
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: KGN
App. Filed.......: 15-02-2011
File Transfer...: 09-05-2011
Med's Done....: 17-01-2011, 08-03-2012
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 30-3-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 13-04-2012
LANDED..........: 06-06-2012
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« Reply #4355 on: November 14, 2011, 03:02:15 pm » |
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Time? I know it can take as much as a year to get a date for the appeal, sometimes less. Money? That depends on whether you hire a lawyer. Not everyone chooses to do so, you are allowed to be self-represented.
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dair2dv8103100
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Rabat
App. Filed.......: 19.05.11
AOR Received.: 16.08.11
File Transfer...: 26.07.11
Med's Done....: 28.02.11/19.03.12
Interview........: 06.03.12
Passport Req..: 28.05.12
VISA ISSUED...: 20.06.12
LANDED..........: Aug 1, 2012
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« Reply #4356 on: November 14, 2011, 03:04:25 pm » |
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Yes, I guess the first place to start is the GCMS notes. This will give you (Habibti) a much more detailed reason of the rejection. Then you can go from there to see what your next step may be.
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shamsia
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: New Delhi
App. Filed.......: 30-06-2011
File Transfer...: 31-08-2011
Med's Done....: 16-06-2011
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 14-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...: 10-01-2012
LANDED..........: March 15th - Saudi Arabia; April 6th - Canada. Inshallah!
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« Reply #4357 on: November 14, 2011, 03:05:28 pm » |
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What does your husband say Habibti? Does he want to appeal?
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Habibti
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File Transfer...: 31-03-2011
Med's Done....: 10-01-2011 / 06-09-2012
Interview........: 12-09-2011 / Denied 4-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...: January 9, 2013
LANDED..........: January 18, 2013 in Montreal
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« Reply #4358 on: November 14, 2011, 03:05:58 pm » |
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Time? I know it can take as much as a year to get a date for the appeal, sometimes less. Money? That depends on whether you hire a lawyer. Not everyone chooses to do so, you are allowed to be self-represented.
Ok... then one year to get a date for the appeal. And how long after that? I am full of debts. I would have to represent myself if I change my mind about giving up on my marriage. How is it possible that ONE PERSON!!!! ONE F........G person! decides to break all our dreams, our hopes and life projects! I invested so much, I sacrificed so much, I worked too hard, I suffer too much, I endured so many things, to have ONE PERSON to swat it all with one hand.
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Habibti
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Visa Office......: Rabat, Morocco
App. Filed.......: 08-02-2011
File Transfer...: 31-03-2011
Med's Done....: 10-01-2011 / 06-09-2012
Interview........: 12-09-2011 / Denied 4-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...: January 9, 2013
LANDED..........: January 18, 2013 in Montreal
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« Reply #4359 on: November 14, 2011, 03:12:44 pm » |
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What does your husband say Habibti? Does he want to appeal?
My husband right now is completely lost. I talked to him on the phone and he is under shock. He does not know where to stand. He was kind of frozen with me on the phone. However, later on, when my mother called him, he said how angry he is. He got discouraged when I told him it takes years and money to appeal. He said he will work to earn enough money to find a way to be with me. I told him to give up on me and he said he will love me until the end of times no matter what. There is lots of confusion right now in his state of mind.
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dair2dv8103100
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Posts: 988
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Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Rabat
App. Filed.......: 19.05.11
AOR Received.: 16.08.11
File Transfer...: 26.07.11
Med's Done....: 28.02.11/19.03.12
Interview........: 06.03.12
Passport Req..: 28.05.12
VISA ISSUED...: 20.06.12
LANDED..........: Aug 1, 2012
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« Reply #4360 on: November 14, 2011, 03:15:19 pm » |
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How is it possible that ONE PERSON!!!! ONE F........G person! decides to break all our dreams, our hopes and life projects! I invested so much, I sacrificed so much, I worked too hard, I suffer too much, I endured so many things, to have ONE PERSON to swat it all with one hand.
I said the same things even before I went to marry my husband. I don't understand it either. It's not like they can see us everyday talking, planning, dreaming, crying, loving each other. I really have a hard time with this whole process. But now is not the time to make rash decisions either. Take some time and talk with your husband. It is better to make a big decision like ending the marriage after some time and discussion.
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ddobro2
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« Reply #4361 on: November 14, 2011, 03:25:12 pm » |
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Seriously  How is it possible that ONE PERSON!!!! ONE F........G person! decides to break all our dreams, our hopes and life projects! I invested so much, I sacrificed so much, I worked too hard, I suffer too much, I endured so many things, to have ONE PERSON to swat it all with one hand.
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Habibti
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Interview........: 12-09-2011 / Denied 4-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...: January 9, 2013
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« Reply #4362 on: November 14, 2011, 04:17:40 pm » |
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Just contacted my MP office to get the notes. Once received, we will see from there. I just feel crushed. As if life got out of me completely. When I got the news, my legs gave way and I felt I was going down a long dark hole.
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djinna
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App. Filed.......: 22-11-2011
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« Reply #4363 on: November 14, 2011, 08:27:21 pm » |
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Djinna, at this juncture these notes are the last thing you need to worry about. If you have yet to submit your application, you obviously have to concentrate entirely on that application and all of its minutiae....the forms, relationship evidence, police certificates, medical exam, fees payment, etc. And even after you've checked, double-checked, and perhaps even triple-checked all of your documents, and dotted every i and crossed every t as far as the instructions go, and you've sent it in, you have a wait of a couple of months for Mississauga to approve you as a sponsor before the PR portion even gets to Rabat. Those notes won't have anything important in them until at least a month or two go by after they've been delivered to the visa office. So basically, you're waaaaay before that step.
Thanks again for everything and im just trying to make everything perfect and hopefully everything will go smoothly in cha Allah.  Habibti, don't say you are angry at God, He wants always the best for us, we just had to believe in him in hard and good times and you never know what will happen. Never give up on life cuz i did last year and hamdoulilah im here now and happy and wtv will happen with my sponsor, i know God wants only the best for me and my husband. May Allah be with everyone.
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locolynn
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App. Filed.......: 24-04-07
AOR Received.: 08-06-07
Interview........: 06-12-07/09-24-08/09-27-11
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« Reply #4364 on: November 14, 2011, 08:41:36 pm » |
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Habibti I am so sorry for this terrible news. Could you put the paperwork in motion for an appeal, and decide whether you want to pursue it later? You are rightfully very upset right now. Take sone time, talk with your husband and make the decision together. Good luck to you.
Locolynn
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