Sponsoring husband from Morocco

[joecreosta]

hey NATIVE. i have question for u.

are you original native or its only a screename? i ask because i wana know for native people its different application process? can u pls tell?

which tribes u belong to? are u
Nisichawayasihk
Ochi-Chak-Ko-Sipi
Bloodvein
Pauingassi
Brokenhead Ojibway
Pimicikamak
Canupawakpa Dakota Nation
Pinaymootang

i think theres so many others mores. but is application process different?

when u make the payment for sponsorship application. did u get ur GST exempt?

thanks

i have many native indian friends.

Yusuf

[Lois Lane]

there are good people and bad people in every country
knowing your partner well before you commit to marriage is common sense
saying in blanket terms that Moroccan's are wife abusers, and only want to marry to get visa's is offensive to the Moroccan spouses that love their partners as is, to the partner that knows they are loved by their Moroccan partner, especially to the ones that are waiting anxiously to start their lives together, and also to the ones that have great relationships but are busy living their lives together and dont post on here
my previous marraige failed he was a canadian citizen when we met...the relationship failed because of our differences, expectations, commitment levels and tolerance levels...it happens in all cultures, with all ranges in age differences
no doubt it is sad after so much anticipation not to have a relationship work out
there certainly have been some nightmare stories but i suspect there are at least an equal amount of great success stories...those are the ones to focus on
no relationship is perfect....but there is someone perfect for each of us...with faults and all
seeing the glass half full keeps us going instead of focusing on the half that is empty...that just keeps us empty
there is no right or wrong way to co exist in a loving relationship...we all need to figure out what works best for each of us

wishing everyone love, health and prosperity

[joecreosta]

DEEGIRL has reason to come here and share her story. so stop bashing deegirl plesse

[Lois Lane]

Ray, alias joecreosta, alias Yusef
Let me confess that I was the last complaint that led to your account being terminated. In my defense it wasn't the only complaint. And the moderator had also read your constant nonsense against Moroccan's during the span of two years.

I had never until that day nor since complained about anyone! I simply emailed them saying "enough is enough"  to my surprise I received an email a few hours later from the moderator saying that you had been warned and they had terminated your account.

I am sympathetic to Deegirls story but its not right to say that all Moroccans are the same.  Penny's daughter for example is still married, amir and his wife are happily married, rjessome, pearlp,isabelleyasmina, hopefully_waiting, izzy, locolyn to name a few.

A word of caution in general terms is wise.  Painting everyone with the same brush is not!

I hope you will behave yourself this time around!

[deegirl]

well to tell you the truth,,i know another morocan man in my city,,,he has been married for 3 yrs,,,and the only thing that comes out of his mouth as he cant wait to have enough money together so he can leave his wife,,,sad,,,so so sad

[Lois Lane]

if you dont know any couples without a Moroccan spouse that are not happy then you are very lucky....i know way too many! ....the list is sad and longggggggggg

I too know a few couples with a Moroccan spouse that are terribly unhappy in the toronto area

point is....as couples they are unable to work things out for varioussssssssssssssss reasons....NOT because one is Moroccan and NOT because the Moroccan spouse just came looking for a visa...i personally know a moroccan who has been here for just over a year and loves his wife, they had some troubles and he went back to Morocco in November NOT because he wanted to but because his wife asked him to leave, he was devastated and had no family or friends so he decided to return to Morocco...shortly after he went back his wife begged him to come back so he did....now she is once again saying that she wants to go their seperate ways...again he is devastated
THINGS SOMETIMES DONT WORK OUT BETWEEN COUPLES IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE SPOUSE BEING MOROCCON! there is after all a 50% divorce rate in this country

live and let live.....truly live life to its fullest....except the good and the bad and keep forging forward to experience more of the good stuff...staying focused on the bad stuff will keep you stuck

best of luck to all!

[san india]

congrats bro for ur wife's visa....i am still waiting for my visa.........god onli know wen will i get the same....

[locolynn]

THINGS SOMETIMES DONT WORK OUT BETWEEN COUPLES IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE SPOUSE BEING MOROCCON! there is after all a 50% divorce rate in this country

live and let live.....truly live life to its fullest....except the good and the bad and keep forging forward to experience more of the good stuff...staying focused on the bad stuff will keep you stuck

best of luck to all!

Well said.

Yes there are bad people who marry for visas, and yes there are people who marry for the purest form of love, and yes there is a whoooooooole lotta grey in between.

Relationships are for EVERYONE. Add in the cultural differences, the long separation while we wait for immigration and the paranoia that comes from reading forum posts which essentially poison your brain - is it really all that surprising that alot of these marriages don't workout?

But when our marriages fail...it's "stupid girl, he never loved you...just used you for a visa". Awesome.

Locolynn (yep we're still waiting and I'm still lurking).

[joecreosta]

Ray, alias joecreosta, alias Yusef
Let me confess that I was the last complaint that led to your account being terminated. In my defense it wasn't the only complaint. And the moderator had also read your constant nonsense against Moroccan's during the span of two years.

I had never until that day nor since complained about anyone! I simply emailed them saying "enough is enough"  to my surprise I received an email a few hours later from the moderator saying that you had been warned and they had terminated your account.

I am sympathetic to Deegirls story but its not right to say that all Moroccans are the same.  Penny's daughter for example is still married, amir and his wife are happily married, rjessome, pearlp,isabelleyasmina, hopefully_waiting, izzy, locolyn to name a few.

A word of caution in general terms is wise.  Painting everyone with the same brush is not!

I hope you will behave yourself this time around!

if u read my replies in previous pages. i made public apology. since then i never said or used any bad word against noone its my PROMISE which i live with.

and for ur info. my name IS infact Yusuf

[rjessome]

Interesting twist this thread has taken.  Ok, I'll put in my 2 cents.  To deegirl, I'm so sorry that your marriage is not working out and that you feel that you may have been used.  No matter what the reason(s), the ending of a marriage is so difficult and I'm so sorry for your pain.

My husband has been in Canada with me for 8 months now.  We will celebrate our two year wedding anniversary next month.  We have lived less than half of our married life together so far.  So even though we were married for more than a year when he arrived in Canada, we had to start over like newlyweds.  And it was not easy.  It's still a work in progress like all marriages are BUT those of us who choose to marry into another culture/religion also must add these differences to the long list of relationship issues to overcome.  Adapting to the culture in Canada has not been easy for my husband.  Things that seem minor to me are bigger to him and vice versa.  These issues come as a surprise to both of us.  He never thought he would encounter such things and I never thought they would be a problem.  I'll give you an example.  Hugging.  It's normal for me and my friends/family (male and female) to hug each other hello and goodbye.  My husband HATES when my male friends hug me in front of him.  He sees it as an insult to him, as my husband.  Why, he says.  Why do they have to touch you?  I tell him it's normal here, that's how we say hello and goodbye, it means nothing.  I won't get into detail about the battles that ensued over this but it has taken a lot of arguements and tears to get us to a place where we are both understanding where the other comes from, both trying to adapt and be aware of the others feelings, and trying to accept things that are cultural that we can't change.  I can't change his Moroccan upbringing and just like he can't change my Canadian programming.  So compromise, patience and communication about our feelings have become key to our survival in this marriage.  Luckily, we both put in the effort because we really do love each other very much.  We've discovered that rather than trying to make the other person bend to our will, each of us giving a little and compromising on each issue has given us more positive results.

But all of this is an exercise in patience.  And it could have gone either way at times.  But that is the way relationships are in general.  The other thing I can say for SURE is that what my husband believed living and working in Canada would be like and the REALITY of what is really is has been so different!!!  He would be the first one to tell any Moroccan on here that life in Morocco is easier than it is in Canada.  That doesn't mean better, just easier.  He had no idea that life was so expensive here even though I told him.  It was one of those things he had to experience for himself.  Even what we value and are interested in is different.  It drove him crazy that when he would meet new people here in Canada, practically the 2nd question he would be asked was "So, what do you do for a living?"  My Canadian friends on this board will say it's a normal question.  My husband's view was that it was too personal and he couldn't understand why they wanted to know this or why he would be judged on this.  Right or wrong, that's how it is here.

Getting the visa is just one challenge any couple here will overcome.  It does not lead to "happily ever after".  It leads to more challenges which is completely normal for any married couple.  Mixed marriages like this add extra challenges to the pile.  That's the truth.  But now I know a couple of things for sure.  First is that our marriage is based on love and common values, not a visa.  Second is that if our marriage were to fail, it would be because we couldn't overcome our challenges and find common ground where we could both live happily.  Whether it's cultural differences that could lead to that, who's to say?  But that is the case for us.  It's not the case for all.

For right now, we are happily a work in progress living one day at a time and hoping to continue to conquer the next day together.

[MrsBinx]

Hi, my husbnad will be flying into montreal, I will meet him there and then we will fly to toronto. Does anyone know what is involved at the airport with the immigration officer? I'm not sure how long I should wait to book our flight to toronto.

Thanks in advance

[joecreosta]

Hi, my husbnad will be flying into montreal, I will meet him there and then we will fly to toronto. Does anyone know what is involved at the airport with the immigration officer? I'm not sure how long I should wait to book our flight to toronto.

Thanks in advance

congratulation binx

in montreal they will intreview him and give him PR papers. tell him to write down ur address and phone number on paper because imigration officers wants it where they will mail him his PR card so make srue he knows it. tel him to relax nothign worry about. its just they wanna make sure its same person. they will also call u inside the airport and make quesetions answers with u make sure u know him and he knows u. things like that.

good luck and congratulating for u

long live canadian and moroccan love

[joecreosta]

well said RJSSOME. i am ur big fan i swearing to god.

RJ, i think ur hubby is moslims so in moslims cultures its not normal for woman to hug and shakeing hands and kissing on cheiks for other men. if he get jealous he's right.its like someone else taking on his property.but he has to live with it i guess. u cannot change. he cannot change. only u two have to tolerate each other.

RJssome ur my hero.

Yusuf

Interesting twist this thread has taken.  Ok, I'll put in my 2 cents.  To deegirl, I'm so sorry that your marriage is not working out and that you feel that you may have been used.  No matter what the reason(s), the ending of a marriage is so difficult and I'm so sorry for your pain.

My husband has been in Canada with me for 8 months now.  We will celebrate our two year wedding anniversary next month.  We have lived less than half of our married life together so far.  So even though we were married for more than a year when he arrived in Canada, we had to start over like newlyweds.  And it was not easy.  It's still a work in progress like all marriages are BUT those of us who choose to marry into another culture/religion also must add these differences to the long list of relationship issues to overcome.  Adapting to the culture in Canada has not been easy for my husband.  Things that seem minor to me are bigger to him and vice versa.  These issues come as a surprise to both of us.  He never thought he would encounter such things and I never thought they would be a problem.  I'll give you an example.  Hugging.  It's normal for me and my friends/family (male and female) to hug each other hello and goodbye.  My husband HATES when my male friends hug me in front of him.  He sees it as an insult to him, as my husband.  Why, he says.  Why do they have to touch you?  I tell him it's normal here, that's how we say hello and goodbye, it means nothing.  I won't get into detail about the battles that ensued over this but it has taken a lot of arguements and tears to get us to a place where we are both understanding where the other comes from, both trying to adapt and be aware of the others feelings, and trying to accept things that are cultural that we can't change.  I can't change his Moroccan upbringing and just like he can't change my Canadian programming.  So compromise, patience and communication about our feelings have become key to our survival in this marriage.  Luckily, we both put in the effort because we really do love each other very much.  We've discovered that rather than trying to make the other person bend to our will, each of us giving a little and compromising on each issue has given us more positive results.

But all of this is an exercise in patience.  And it could have gone either way at times.  But that is the way relationships are in general.  The other thing I can say for SURE is that what my husband believed living and working in Canada would be like and the REALITY of what is really is has been so different!!!  He would be the first one to tell any Moroccan on here that life in Morocco is easier than it is in Canada.  That doesn't mean better, just easier.  He had no idea that life was so expensive here even though I told him.  It was one of those things he had to experience for himself.  Even what we value and are interested in is different.  It drove him crazy that when he would meet new people here in Canada, practically the 2nd question he would be asked was "So, what do you do for a living?"  My Canadian friends on this board will say it's a normal question.  My husband's view was that it was too personal and he couldn't understand why they wanted to know this or why he would be judged on this.  Right or wrong, that's how it is here.

Getting the visa is just one challenge any couple here will overcome.  It does not lead to "happily ever after".  It leads to more challenges which is completely normal for any married couple.  Mixed marriages like this add extra challenges to the pile.  That's the truth.  But now I know a couple of things for sure.  First is that our marriage is based on love and common values, not a visa.  Second is that if our marriage were to fail, it would be because we couldn't overcome our challenges and find common ground where we could both live happily.  Whether it's cultural differences that could lead to that, who's to say?  But that is the case for us.  It's not the case for all.

For right now, we are happily a work in progress living one day at a time and hoping to continue to conquer the next day together.

[Lois Lane]

ok Raykom

[joecreosta]

ok Raykom

lol first time i see smile on ur face Loislane,atlest i bringing smile to ur face too.

who and what is Raykom? are u calling me names here? should i report u to moderator and get u banned? i am NOT a rat like u so i pray u help urself.

no place for haters.....LOVE for the rest

yusuf