Seniors and all -- Explanation about Additional document

[Leon]

The visa officer might just have been in a bad mood.

Is your relative employed or otherwise a participant in a volunteer program, sports program, social program, studies or any other activity that they can get a letter stating they were residing in Canada?  Or even a letter from their doctor or dentist stating when they have visited them and that they were in Canada at that point.  You should get that from your relative and send that to the visa officer stating that your relatives wife refuses to give you any information but you do have this proof by letter that your relative is residing in Canada.

[arlnr]

Hi Jonathan
You claimed adaptability points from your relatives  in that case from whom? is it from HIM or HER?
as your post i guess its from her as she is your nearest relative.
I think VO assumes that she is a dependent and  presently she has got no jobs in that case she depends on her spouse income.
So if that is the case then VO does not have any intention to accept anything rather than of her spouse Income statement and others relating to his residing in CA

But he is an introvert as you mention so in that case there is  uncertainty.
On the other hand you must provide this to VO.

Is there any possibility to send that information directly to VO from your relatives spouse without any third parties involvement.

Now a days there are so many obligation to avail relatives point.
I am also in the same boat only God knows what comes next.

Finally Jonathan you must have to provide this to VO by any means and for this you should have apply diplomacy on him or hir and also to VO.

You know this case is going complicated now as of personal disagreements.
Be cool and convince that person directly in any means because you need this.
Remember in new NOC ther are no 0213


arlnr
 

[arlnr]

Would you please PM me the followings regarding your relatives spouse

1 What kind of job he is availing right now?
2 Does he avail any Social benefit rather than of child benefit although he has a good job?

I thing there might be some wrong in his Bank statement which should have negative impact when  VO will asses that and ultimately there would be some major problem for your relatives spouse.

Pls this is only as assumption
So dont take it otherwise.

arlnr

[jnathan]

arlnr

Applicant's brother's spouse.
she is more qualified than applicant's brother that suits jobs requirements in Canada.
neither applicant's brother nor applicant's brother's spouse is on any form of social aid. they never ever did so before.

Applicant's brother's spouse works in Walmart and serves as IT manager. earns around $50K annually.   

[jnathan]

Leon,

The issue is now not related with my relative or relative's spouse being resided in Canada , rather its the economical power my relative or it's spouse. my relative is now working now and its spouse bearing its all costs who works in Walmart as an IT manager.

I have provided all the papers of my relative, the problem is now that my relative's spouse does not want to provide her papers to me.

[Leon]

Then I would not know why the visa officer is asking for this.  There is no requirement for a skilled worker relative or their spouse to have earnings.

[jnathan]

Yea Leon, That is what my question too, they better had rejected me than asking me for papers from a person with whom I got no close relation ( my relative's spouse). my relative is my brother or sister, not his/her spouse. he/she has every reason about which of his/her info to reveal to outsiders like me.

I wish I could tell this to the Immigration Minister about the torture I am getting from the VO.   

[arlnr]

There is nothing in OP6 to submit relatives spouse or kids information
Only submit applicants close relatives information.
Then why that will be submitted by VO's requirement?
I think your file is handling by a female VO and its her personal decision
Now a days all those females are creating lot of problems.
You prepare yourself to send this information to Jason Kenny or other immigration authorities.
First you should inform VO about this situation then wait for their reply.

[Leon]

The only reason I can think of why they might ask for spouses information is if the relative has zero income and no real proof of living in Canada that they want to know that at least the spouse is truly living in Canada but here they seem to be wanting more.  It is possible to prove residence in Canada with a letter from the employer without giving information about income.

[jnathan]

Leon

yes, My relative is not working for the last two years and raising his kid while his wife works outside.
this is why he has zero income. IO/VO's can check any Canadian's residency status by using their computer database ; whether or not he/she is currently residing or living outside the country. VO can call their number to make sure they are living there.

My relative's spouse does not want to help me with anything regarding my endeavor of PR. So it is out of concept that she would ask her employer for any papers for me. my bottleneck is, this is where VO is asking me to hit which is impossible.

My concern is as I have shown PoF below $15,000, VO is thinking that this guy would go in Canada during this recession and might become a burden on the economy as there are scarce of IT jobs there at the moment.   I am thinking to send a legal notarized declaration of my father's PoF that he would send me his fund to Canada if I were in any financial problem during my stay. I believe this will help

arlnr

lets see.

[Leon]

It is not about PoF.  They can only ask for the minimum, not more.  I believe the problem is that your relative is a stay home parent and unable to prove to a certainty that they are residing in Canada.

Where have you heard that there is a residency database?  If you left Canada and didn't tell anybody, would it be in the database?  If there was such a database, if they actually knew who is outside Canada when, you would lose your PR immediately when you don't meet the residency requirements so that leads me to believe that there is no such database or that it's very incomplete, based on information people voluntarily give, like when you notify CIC of your change of address for example which doesn't actually mean that the information in there is correct because some people don't tell them and some lie.

If your relative has very little proof of residing in Canada, get them to add some things, similar to what I have suggested before, to get their doctor or pediatrician to write a letter stating that this person is living in Canada and has visited them on such and such occasion, dentist, school teacher of child if the child is already in school or kindergarten or any such official person your relative runs into on a regular basis and knows they live in Canada.  Then write a letter stating that you have done your best to provide the proof that your relative is residing in Canada as you have stated but you can unfortunately not provide financial documents or other information about your relatives spouse as they refuse to provide it to you.  Then hope that will be enough.

[arlnr]

I think that VO knows somehow about your relatives current unemployment thats why they ask for his spouse information.
You know that in the Passport there is officially stamped page for inbound and outbound procedures which is completed by Immigration in the airport when a person in or out from that certain airport.
If so then you can submit it to prove his residing in CA.
You said for the last two years he is doing nothing then there is question about economic estabilishment for you and your relative.
I already faced that because my relative was in social.
In that case i have submitted previous 2 years  Bank solvency of my own to cover that.
I think u didn"t submit any job reference regarding to your relative thats why they asked for his spouse information.
You should not forced his spouse to do so.
If his spouse arrogant about this then she may be inform the authorities which will not be better for u.
On the other hand u can submit more bank solvency but it should focus periodic deposit of certain amounts not a sudden one.

However did u get his spouse primary Job offer letter and current job reference status?
If u have that then this will be enough to prove their economic solvency and residing in CA.
And there is no need to submit bank statement although sometime they asked for it without any reason.
If  u did not have that  primary Job offer letter and current job reference status then
finally you and your brother should convince her by any means .

arlnr