Re-Meds due to high Protein in Urine-Seeking help.

[mitali]

I am trying to find out if any applicant got high Protein in urine (+2) and was requested for a Re Med.

1.What option does the applicant have in terms of remedy or prognosis?
2.How will it affect the final decision of VO?
3. What corrective measures should be taken to clear the meds?

As far as I know only untreated active TB and syphilis cases are barred entry in Canada (In addition to the information in the link:  http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/resources/publications/dmp-handbook/appendix-02.asp)

In the above mentioned case, is there any chance of being barred or will the processing will be delayed (I think so) and how does VO actually decide on these cases.

I have familiarized with the links as provided ( http://www.canadavisa.com/canadian-immigration-faq-medical-examinations.html and the one above)

PMM, QORAX da, Kanamen and members who have been/or are in this situation, please post your comments so that a fellow member can be helped.

Regards.

Mitali

[farrukh ahmad]

dear mitali , my friend,s mother application was delayed due to the kidney disease.

[mitali]

dear mitali , my friend,s mother application was delayed due to the kidney disease.

Thanks Farrukh for the info. Do you have further info on your friend's case...like how long was it deferred and what was the advice and observations of the VO?

This is certainly a different case as it is in FSW category.....so the advice might be different.

Please revert, if you have any additional information.

Mitali

[wilson]

Hi mitali,

Why don't do re-med after some treatment.

Seeking medical advice of a consultant specialist - a Nephrologist is suggested because high levels of protein in the urine may be due to diseases of the kidney such as glomerulonephritis or infections of the renal pathway such as cystitis or pyelonephritis which may cause high protein levels in urine. This can be controlled by medication.

According to DMP handbook:

7. IMM 5419 – Section B: Functional inquiry

Question 9: Kidney or bladder disease
When there is a history of significant urinary tract or renal disorder (chronic recurrent infections, chronic pyleonephiritis, glomerulonephritis, polycystic renal disease, chronic renal insufficiency or failure, renal transplantation, urinary tract malignancy), the details from the applicant should include the date of onset, diagnosis, treatment and current status.

Note: If the applicant is not excessive demand exempt, a serum creatinine must be performed. If elevated, a repeat serum creatinine, along with a random urine protein to creatinine ratio, [note 4] must be performed.


Treatment should bring the laboratory exams to a normal stage.





 

[farrukh ahmad]

Thanks Farrukh for the info. Do you have further info on your friend's case...like how long was it deferred and what was the advice and observations of the VO?

This is certainly a different case as it is in FSW category.....so the advice might be different.

Please revert, if you have any additional information.

Mitali

yesterday my friend,s brother met me in gym , he is here for 6 months , i will discuss today night and inform you tomorrow. thanks

[mitali]

Hi mitali,

Why don't do re-med after some treatment.

Seeking medical advice of a consultant specialist - a Nephrologist is suggested because high levels of protein in the urine may be due to diseases of the kidney such as glomerulonephritis or infections of the renal pathway such as cystitis or pyelonephritis which may cause high protein levels in urine. This can be controlled by medication.

According to DMP handbook:

7. IMM 5419 – Section B: Functional inquiry

Question 9: Kidney or bladder disease
When there is a history of significant urinary tract or renal disorder (chronic recurrent infections, chronic pyleonephiritis, glomerulonephritis, polycystic renal disease, chronic renal insufficiency or failure, renal transplantation, urinary tract malignancy), the details from the applicant should include the date of onset, diagnosis, treatment and current status.

Note: If the applicant is not excessive demand exempt, a serum creatinine must be performed. If elevated, a repeat serum creatinine, along with a random urine protein to creatinine ratio, [note 4] must be performed.


Treatment should bring the laboratory exams to a normal stage.

Yes, Wilson...that's the idea ...to cure the ailment (if possible) before RE meds. And that's what is being done right now....

I hope the levels reach a normal level......what if it does'nt? Do you have any other info on VO's take on it?

Thanks a lot Wilson.

Mitali

[Kanamen]

Hi mitali,

Why don't do re-med after some treatment.

Seeking medical advice of a consultant specialist - a Nephrologist is suggested because high levels of protein in the urine may be due to diseases of the kidney such as glomerulonephritis or infections of the renal pathway such as cystitis or pyelonephritis which may cause high protein levels in urine. This can be controlled by medication.

According to DMP handbook:

7. IMM 5419 – Section B: Functional inquiry

Question 9: Kidney or bladder disease
When there is a history of significant urinary tract or renal disorder (chronic recurrent infections, chronic pyleonephiritis, glomerulonephritis, polycystic renal disease, chronic renal insufficiency or failure, renal transplantation, urinary tract malignancy), the details from the applicant should include the date of onset, diagnosis, treatment and current status.

Note: If the applicant is not excessive demand exempt, a serum creatinine must be performed. If elevated, a repeat serum creatinine, along with a random urine protein to creatinine ratio, [note 4] must be performed.


Treatment should bring the laboratory exams to a normal stage.





 

Another impressive reply by Wilson confirmed by Nephrologist  as discussed with sister Mitali.Tried to give one more +1 but due to karma .....

[Kanamen]

yesterday my friend,s brother met me in gym , he is here for 6 months , i will discuss today night and inform you tomorrow. thanks

Yes that would be helpful +1 for you

[Arjoolak]

How many times they have asked you to test it again ?

I had done 3 times urine test in my second medical back in 2010 and the dr asked me at the third time , to

drink 1 liter of water or tea , which I did. DR sent my med with no obligation/comment.

he,d said if there was something wrong with you kidney or blood, then it should  have never gone with 1 liter

of water.... any how.,,, did my third medical end of august 2011 , and nothing came up...

as long as they dont pass your med result to cic, your case wont move ...

cheers

[mitali]

Thanks Kanamen, Arjalook, Wilson and Farrukh and Sonir (he has been behind the scene helping) ...really appreciate all the help...

+1 for all of you 

Mitali

[mineone]

How many times they have asked you to test it again ?

I had done 3 times urine test in my second medical back in 2010 and the dr asked me at the third time , to

drink 1 liter of water or tea , which I did. DR sent my med with no obligation/comment.

he,d said if there was something wrong with you kidney or blood, then it should  have never gone with 1 liter

of water.... any how.,,, did my third medical end of august 2011 , and nothing came up...

as long as they dont pass your med result to cic, your case wont move ...

cheers

yes this is correct drinking high quantity of water camouflages symptoms of many diseases.

[wilson]

Thanks Kanamen, Arjalook, Wilson and Farrukh and Sonir (he has been behind the scene helping) ...really appreciate all the help...

+1 for all of you  

Mitali

Thanks mitali,

I don't have any known case of similar type handled by VO.
As it does not appear like a case of excessive demand, I hope this would not be a reason to fail on  medical decision. Hopefully the ongoing treatment could lower the protein level to a normal range before next medical. Be optimistic and stay out of stress with strong will power. It will add stamina and strength to the body and mind for the fast action of medicine. Pray!

[Imadeit]

Dear Mitali,

I have been a silent reader of this Forum for a while now. Though I have been tempted many a times to participate in certain discussions, I never did so far due to various reasons. In fact, my own story covers almost all the aspects being discussed here, rejection, resubmission of application, long wait, proof of funds, medical concerns, ultimate success, dilemma whether to or not to land and finally,landing experience and return back to India. because of this, I have been toying with the idea of writing a blog covering all my experience for the sake of future applicants, but due to paucity of time, never got around to doing it. I will perhaps do it after reaching Canada for good, hopefully in October 2012. In the mean time, I will try and write occasional responses like this, whenever others are not able to fully answer others' queries.

As far as the problem regarding high Protein content in urine is concerned, I don't think you (or whoever has it) need to worry. Exactly similar thing happened to me. When I finally received my Medical Request after 11 agonizing years of wait (my first application was  rejected by  a stupid Chinese-Canadian lady Visa Officer, who misinterpreted a sentence in my credential evaluation), I was a little concerned because I was by then Diabetic and had high Blood Pressure. Like many others who in similar position have done, I too had a complete medical check up done privately to assess my medical condition. That is when it was discovered that I had symptoms of kidney disease, including high protein content in urine. I immediately consulted a Nephrologist, who confirmed I had Diabetic Kidney Disease, and that it was at a fairly advanced stage! Though I started the treatment immediately, I had little hope of clearing the medicals, since Kidney Disease is normally irreversible.

During the medicals, the doctor who did the medicals also was of the opinion that there was very little chance of the  immigration being cleared due to my advanced condition. And as expected, I received instructions from CIC to repeat the tests after three months, and send it along with the report of a designated Nephrologist. When the tests were repeated after three months, there was no improvement in my condition at all. And the prognosis of the Nephrologist was that I was slowly, but surely advancing towards End Stage Renal Failure, and will have to start Dialysis sooner or later. So I had three medical conditions, Diabetes, which was not under very good control, high BP and fairly advanced Kidney disease!  I wrote to Attorney David Cohen's office regarding this, and they too were of the opinion that very little could be done about medical inadmissibility, except seeking the help of an attorney who specializes in such cases - and that would cost a lot of money! So I resigned to the fact that Canada was not a part of my  future and forgot all about it.

Now, to cut a long story short, within a month of the second medical examination , I received the Passport Request and had the visa in my hand in another two weeks!

I, along with my family, landed in Toronto in December 2009, and returned to India in February 2010. My son, who had turned 26 by the time the visa finally arrived, relocated to Vancouver last year and is working there as an IT professional since then. My son in law and daughter have made it on their own, having applied in March 2011 and receiving the Visa two weeks ago - and will be moving to Vancouver in July 2012. And if everything goes well, I and my wife will relocate to Vancouver by October 2012.

And yes, I still am living with my kidney condition, and by the grace of God, Dialysis still looks to be some time away. How long, I do not know, and nor does my Nephrologist. But I can proudly say that I have not let my medical condition affect either my morale, or my life style so far 

[Daash]

Guys I am speechless as of now. All this thread is because of me. Mitali, an angel for me, has started this thread for me. Thanks a lot guys for your valuable inputs. I dont know how to thank you people. God bless you people. Am trying everything I can.

[OnlineInsPro]

Hello all! As an Insurance Agent in Canada with over 20 years experience I have had some experience with similar situations when insurance medicals have been performed.  Protein levels are checked during these medicals as elevated levels can indicate the presence of various diseases, as already mentioned, but it is important to know that these are NOT the only reasons. As an example, if the test is performed following very strenuous exercise the levels will also be elevated. If the person abuses drugs or alcohol, the levels are also elevated. If the person consumes certain foods, there can also be elevation. I don't know from this post just how high the elevation was in this case, but the first thing I would suggest is to ask to have the test repeated. If there really is a medical condition (like TB, which is the main reason for this testing), it will still cause elevation, but if it was lifestyle related, you might find the results to be much better. So... Before the test, don't eat, don't work out, don't consume herbal medications, don't consume protein powder (common with many people under heavy work out training), and consume reasonable amounts of clear fluids (water). Don't overdo it with the water either, just reasonable amounts. Hope this helps!

Tracy DesLaurier, CHS -Specialist in Super Visa Insurance
DesLaurier Financial Services
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