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Author Topic: REFUSED Pre-June 10 Cases (JDs Mismatch) Want to Appeal, Connect Here  (Read 44711 times)
zakout76
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« Reply #330 on: June 29, 2012, 05:20:38 am »

I think yes
And i mention that refuse as per caips
They reply i think before 10 days that my file with officer and not send any thing yet
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Posts: 374
Ratings: +8
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: LONDON
NOC Code......: 1111
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: June 2010
Doc's Request.: October 2010
Nomination.....: N/A
AOR Received.: Nova-Scotia, October 2010
IELTS Request: Yes
File Transfer...: London, January 2011, Second AOR May-2011
Med's Request: E-Cas Status: "In Process" since May 2012
Med's Done....: 6-12 months Wait Letter on July 2012 & 18 months wait letter on April 2013
Interview........: not dreaming
Passport Req..: dreaming again
VISA ISSUED...: OMG
LANDED..........: biggest dream

« Reply #331 on: June 29, 2012, 06:48:05 am »

Not only you most of the JDs mismatch refusals happened since start of April 2012......

Please share your details here so that i can add you in the list....


S.NO   NOC   Name   APPL. TO CIC   Ist AOR   FULL DOCUMENTS   2ND AOR   REFUSAL
1   0711   Zee81   25/03/2010   27/05/2010   5/7/2010   27/07/2010   22/05/2012
2   0213   Rizwan72   15/06/2010   17/10/2010   5/1/2011   10/7/2011   5/5/2012
3   0213   Azfarbaig   28/04/2010   8/10/2010   1/2/2011   27/6/2011   10/5/2012
4   4131   Khan200us   9/12/2009   5/3/2010   5/7/2010   30/7/2010   18/5/2012
5                     
6   4121   Navali   19/05/2010   23/10/2010   15/11/2010      
7      Sherydesire   15/01/2010   15/03/2010   8/8/2010   15/02/2011   18/02/2012
8                     
9   0911/7242   Shahid22507   19/03/2010   19/05/2010   20/05/2010   27/07/2010   23/05/2012
10      Fishberger               
11   4131/0111   Mahhdy   23/06/2010   22/10/2010   27/12/2010   28/02/2011   7/6/2012


Dear Brothers, please clarify one question that i have. at the time of getting refusal letter for JD's Mismatch, what was your e-cas status? RBVO to DM or In-process with date to DM?Huh i am in-process with date and i am a bit worried, please clarify.
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Zee81
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Posts: 632
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0711
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 25-03-2010
Doc's Request.: 20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.: 27-07-2010
IELTS Request: Provided with documents
File Transfer...: 01-06-2010
Med's Request: 10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....: 21-11-2012

« Reply #332 on: June 29, 2012, 07:12:18 am »

Dear Brothers, please clarify one question that i have. at the time of getting refusal letter for JD's Mismatch, what was your e-cas status? RBVO to DM or In-process with date to DM?Huh i am in-process with date and i am a bit worried, please clarify.

Mostly Our status  was 'In Process' WITHOUT date..........

If your status is In Process with date and you have not received a refusal than at least you are safe being rejected due to JDs mismatch issue...... So Don't worry friend you are SAFE.....  Grin Grin Grin
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destination canada
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Posts: 374
Ratings: +8
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: LONDON
NOC Code......: 1111
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: June 2010
Doc's Request.: October 2010
Nomination.....: N/A
AOR Received.: Nova-Scotia, October 2010
IELTS Request: Yes
File Transfer...: London, January 2011, Second AOR May-2011
Med's Request: E-Cas Status: "In Process" since May 2012
Med's Done....: 6-12 months Wait Letter on July 2012 & 18 months wait letter on April 2013
Interview........: not dreaming
Passport Req..: dreaming again
VISA ISSUED...: OMG
LANDED..........: biggest dream

« Reply #333 on: June 29, 2012, 10:47:28 am »

Mostly Our status  was 'In Process' WITHOUT date..........

If your status is In Process with date and you have not received a refusal than at least you are safe being rejected due to JDs mismatch issue...... So Don't worry friend you are SAFE.....  Grin Grin Grin

thanks a lot brother for your encouragement and best wishes, i also pray for you and hope you will also have good news soon.
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kkhan870
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« Reply #334 on: June 29, 2012, 11:51:28 am »

Guys and Girls please listen me carefully, you are not Canadian citizens so don't waste time and money to go to the courts, just write a good consideration letter and look for other options for your future it was meant to be and the lawyers will just earn money from you that's it
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Morina
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« Reply #335 on: June 29, 2012, 12:51:13 pm »

Guys and Girls please listen me carefully, you are not Canadian citizens so don't waste time and money to go to the courts, just write a good consideration letter and look for other options for your future it was meant to be and the lawyers will just earn money from you that's it

How to write that letter... what to write in it Huh

HEEELLLPPPPP  !!!!!
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« Reply #336 on: June 29, 2012, 01:23:25 pm »

How to write that letter... what to write in it Huh

HEEELLLPPPPP  !!!!!
Tell me the reason of the refusal and then can tell you with some humble points that you can consider
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Morina
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« Reply #337 on: June 29, 2012, 04:24:07 pm »

Tell me the reason of the refusal and then can tell you with some humble points that you can consider

Even though its been paused these days the applying for FSW... I dont care about that, I wanna apply and send them my documents..
I dont earn enough points (for 67, I get 61), I have experience as a Marketing Manager, Sales Manager and Paints supervisor.. I also have successfully completed certificates for Painter and decorator....

Thats what I was gonna write to them in order to be well economic established in Canada... but didnt know how to write it...

Thanx in advance

Morina
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Zee81
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Posts: 632
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0711
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 25-03-2010
Doc's Request.: 20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.: 27-07-2010
IELTS Request: Provided with documents
File Transfer...: 01-06-2010
Med's Request: 10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....: 21-11-2012

« Reply #338 on: June 29, 2012, 11:44:56 pm »

Guys and Girls please listen me carefully, you are not Canadian citizens so don't waste time and money to go to the courts, just write a good consideration letter and look for other options for your future it was meant to be and the lawyers will just earn money from you that's it

I respect your thoughts but in this case we are having mass refusals due to JDs mismatch and all to reduce CIC's backlog........ this is unjust policy which they are adopting and we have to resist it, we should fight for justice........... Lawyers will have their charges and only those can hire them which can afford to do so.....

And remember one thing no matter what you write, CHC will NOT re-open your case if closed due to JDs mismatch issue..... I wrote a very comprehensive reconsideration letter explaining each and every performed duty in terms of NOC, even attached email inquires from reputed Canadian employers which wanted to hire me as soon as i get the landed immigrant status, but nobody bothered to even look at it seriously..... after a week i received an email that they cannot re-open my case........... I can assure you that if somebody (Program Manager) would have read my letter seriously he could not have found any reason or logic not to reconsider my case!!!!!

So dear its up to individuals that how much desperate they are to move to Canada and how much guts they have to Fight against injustice?? I am sure Canadian Courts are not biased towards their citizens, they provide justice to anyone which consult them....... 
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maran1976
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 0111
App. Filed.......: 14 April 2010
AOR Received.: 26 Nov 2010 (2nd Aor Date)
Med's Request: 28-02-2013
Med's Done....: 6th March 2013
Interview........: hopefully waived
Passport Req..: Recvd by CHC Mar 13th

« Reply #339 on: June 30, 2012, 12:10:01 am »

I respect your thoughts but in this case we are having mass refusals due to JDs mismatch and all to reduce CIC's backlog........ this is unjust policy which they are adopting and we have to resist it, we should fight for justice........... Lawyers will have their charges and only those can hire them which can afford to do so.....


Bro, mass wrt to this forum only ??
I am just wondering if they have released their latest data on no.of applications and no.of refusals.

Like I said in my previous post , a court can only ask the CIC to look into the file. The CIC , can again turn around and say, ' looked, still not eligible !!'  The court cannot order CIC to grant someone a PR in FSW.

I am not justifying what they did, i am just saying, going to court/lawyer for JD mismatch, is a waste of money unless and untill the immigration act is ammended, with a tribunal to hear/accept appeal on rejected cases.

The comments, of the VO are very highly upheld. You can go to court on the proceedure/process but not the decision, view of the officer!
anyways, my honest request to people is dont waste money on lawyers/consultants. move forward, look at other countries !

During immigraton/visa process, just bcoz we have all documents ready, doesnt meen, we are guaranteed a visa. The officers have a final say ' i am satisfied/ i am not satisfied'



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IP on ECAS date is May 10th 2012
Med Recvd in Ecas on 21 March 2013
DD Encashed on 21 March 2013
IP DM on 23 March 2013 with Indian Address
Ecas updated CURRENT HOME ADDRESS as Toronto 27 March 2013
COPR and VISA recvd 30 March 2013 (Visa Dt 20 March
Zee81
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Posts: 632
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0711
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 25-03-2010
Doc's Request.: 20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.: 27-07-2010
IELTS Request: Provided with documents
File Transfer...: 01-06-2010
Med's Request: 10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....: 21-11-2012

« Reply #340 on: June 30, 2012, 12:32:44 am »

Bro, mass wrt to this forum only ??
I am just wondering if they have released their latest data on no.of applications and no.of refusals.

Like I said in my previous post , a court can only ask the CIC to look into the file. The CIC , can again turn around and say, ' looked, still not eligible !!'  The court cannot order CIC to grant someone a PR in FSW.

I am not justifying what they did, i am just saying, going to court/lawyer for JD mismatch, is a waste of money unless and untill the immigration act is ammended, with a tribunal to hear/accept appeal on rejected cases.

The comments, of the VO are very highly upheld. You can go to court on the proceedure/process but not the decision, view of the officer!
anyways, my honest request to people is dont waste money on lawyers/consultants. move forward, look at other countries !

During immigraton/visa process, just bcoz we have all documents ready, doesnt meet, we are guaranteed a visa. The officers have a final say ' i am satisfied/ i am not satisfied'





I respect your view.... Mass refusals not with respect to this forum only but if you go through various forums (specifically Pakistani forums) you will come to know that about 50% of MI-1 Pre-june 2010 cases have been rejected based on JDs mismatch issue........... and do remember that its the Visa Officer's obligation to carry a FAIR assessment of all applications and if he is not satisfied, he HAS TO PROVIDE undeniable / logical and strong reasons for refusal...... isn't it?Huh? and if the reasons are not strong and logical, can these not be challenged in court??? Is it a FAIR assessment which they are doing to reduce backlog and close the files as soon as possible effortlessly??? 

I have seen one person which got the refusal since his experience letter did not contain a date of issue at the top, it was at the end of last paragraph..... is this a Valid reason for refusal??? Look at my case 05 experience letters provided...... regarding 04 letters the VO is saying that sufficient JDs are not performed and for 01 he is saying that the JDs are too much inspired from NOC?Huh what we should do to convince them??? not one way or the other they are accepting to process the cases........

Yes the court can only order CHC to reconsider or review the case based on its decision and give a FAIR assessment....... and one needs a strong case to let the court give an order in his favour...... so if you consider your case to be Genuine and strong enough, feel that a fair assessment has not been done by the Visa Officer what is the harm in going to court??? and of-course you have to spend money.............

 
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« Reply #341 on: June 30, 2012, 12:59:46 am »

i send e-mail after DM come on line and before i recived the caips the date i recived reply 13 jun12 says/

Dear Sir,
 
Please note a letter has not been sent and the file is with an officer.
 
KLH

and after i recived the caips i sent reconsidration letter on 21jun, but still no reply from london

and also i didint recived the refuse letter .

inshallah good news

b.regards

zakout
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Zee81
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0711
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 25-03-2010
Doc's Request.: 20-May-2010 (Sent 05-07-2010)
AOR Received.: 27-07-2010
IELTS Request: Provided with documents
File Transfer...: 01-06-2010
Med's Request: 10-11-2012 (Case Refused & Re-opened in Aug. 2012)
Med's Done....: 21-11-2012

« Reply #342 on: June 30, 2012, 03:07:59 am »

i send e-mail after DM come on line and before i recived the caips the date i recived reply 13 jun12 says/

Dear Sir,
 
Please note a letter has not been sent and the file is with an officer.
 
KLH

and after i recived the caips i sent reconsidration letter on 21jun, but still no reply from london

and also i didint recived the refuse letter .

inshallah good news

b.regards

zakout

Its quite confusing...... why they want to say that your application is still with the Visa Officer once ur CAIPS clarifies that its a rejection  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Doc's Request.: 21-10-2010

« Reply #343 on: June 30, 2012, 03:13:07 am »

Updated list;



S.NO   NOC     Name     INITIAL APPLICATION TO CIC   Ist AOR   FULL DOCUMENTS       2ND AOR        REFUSAL
1   0711     Zee81      25/03/10                                    27/05/10    5/7/2010               27/07/10   22/05/12
2   0213     Rizwan72      15/06/10                          17/10/10    5/1/2011              10/7/2011   5/5/2012
3   0213     Azfarbaig      28/04/10                                  8/10/2010    1/2/2011              27/6/2011   10/5/2012
4   0213     AkberAlwani      07/04/10                                  8/10/2010    1/2/2011             27/04/2011   30/05/2012

Please tell me how to approach lawyer and file the case to court, as I have few days left only.
4   0213     AkberAlwani      07/04/10                                  8/10/2010    1/2/2011             27/04/2011   30/05/2012
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zakout76
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« Reply #344 on: June 30, 2012, 03:19:55 am »

I dont know zee, i can be refuse letter send since 17mAy and not recived till now
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