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Author Topic: Quebec: does the CSQ guarantee PR at the federal level?  (Read 513 times)
DianneO
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« on: October 30, 2011, 12:08:01 am »

Hello all,

Does receiving the CSQ almost guarantee PR at the federal level? That is, if I have no police record and no major illness? Is the federal part of the Quebec PR application merely a formality?

Thank you in advance for your responses.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 01:26:53 am »

Hello all,

Does receiving the CSQ almost guarantee PR at the federal level? That is, if I have no police record and no major illness? Is the federal part of the Quebec PR application merely a formality?

Thank you in advance for your responses.

No.
It's just a pre-qualifying stage of QSW.

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 02:30:11 am »

No.
It's just a pre-qualifying stage of QSW.

Qorax

What will they check at the federal level, apart from the medical/criminal background? The CIC website says that "Quebec-selected skilled workers are not assessed on the six selection factors of the Federal Skilled Workers Program."
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 10:02:54 am »

Hi DianneO,
Please allow me to differ with one of our most senior member Qorax's opinion. And for sure, his knowledge can't be challenged regarding to Canadian immigration. Though, according to my limited knowledge, I think the other way around.

IMHO, once you get the CSQ, it guarantees your PR at Federal level provided that you don't have any medical illness and criminal history. In QSW, your education, work experience and adaptability is checked according to Quebec's immigration process and only things that are left for the Federal process are medical and police checks.  I hope that helps.
(Please correct me if my understanding about the QSW process is misinterpreted. )
Thanks
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KLM01
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 12:01:24 pm »

No.

It does not guarantee the PR.
It's just an acceptance certificate.

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 03:54:39 am »

The Canada-Quebec Accord is an agreement, signed in 1991, which specifies that the province of
Quebec is solely responsible for the selection of applicants destined to the province of Quebec.

Federal responsibility under the Accord is to assess an applicant's admissibility and issue
permanent resident visas.


An officer may therefore refuse applicants even if they have already been accepted by Quebec, if
they are inadmissible. At the same time, the officer will not issue a permanent resident visa to any
applicant destined to the province of Quebec who has not met Quebec's selection criteria.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 10:22:09 am »

That part asserts that it does not guarantee the PR.


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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 10:36:42 am »

That part asserts that it does not guarantee the PR.


!!!

As per my understanding Federal has nothing to do with a provincial selected skilled work except the checks(medical/Security/misrepresentation) in short inadmissibility that I have clearly stated in my previous post.  Would you mind to elaborate your point please?
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 11:58:53 am »

Dear,

I believe you lost the point here.
The very simple question posed is: Does receiving the CSQ almost guarantee PR at the federal level?

The answers provided were: No does not guarantee PR.

Then you replied with the following..

...
IMHO, once you get the CSQ, it guarantees your PR at Federal level....

and then you added..

The Canada-Quebec Accord is an agreement, signed in 1991, which specifies that the province of
Quebec is solely responsible for the selection of applicants destined to the province of Quebec.

Federal responsibility under the Accord is to assess an applicant's admissibility and issue
permanent resident visas.


An officer may therefore refuse applicants even if they have already been accepted by Quebec, if
they are inadmissible. At the same time, the officer will not issue a permanent resident visa to any
applicant destined to the province of Quebec who has not met Quebec's selection criteria.


Which in fact asserts the fact that CSQ does NOT guarantee receiving PR visa.
(And oppose your first reply)

And finally you've just added..

As per my understanding Federal has nothing to do with a provincial selected skilled work except the checks(medical/Security/misrepresentation) in short inadmissibility that I have clearly stated in my previous post.  Would you mind to elaborate your point please?



I've all rights to wonder!
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KLM01
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 12:01:09 pm »

DianneO,

I believe your question is well answered now.

Please let us know if you still have any concerns.

Wish you the best.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 12:06:11 pm »

Hi DianneO,
Please allow me to differ with one of our most senior member Qorax's opinion. And for sure, his knowledge can't be challenged regarding to Canadian immigration. Though, according to my limited knowledge, I think the other way around.

IMHO, once you get the CSQ, it guarantees your PR at Federal level provided that you don't have any medical illness and criminal history. In QSW, your education, work experience and adaptability is checked according to Quebec's immigration process and only things that are left for the Federal process are medical and police checks.  I hope that helps.
(Please correct me if my understanding about the QSW process is misinterpreted. )
Thanks

I suppose, You don't want to read it completely. : )
Never mind!
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 12:15:52 pm »

Oh boy!

Qorax answered..

No.
It's just a pre-qualifying stage of QSW.

Qorax

later you said..

Hi DianneO,
Please allow me to differ with one of our most senior member Qorax's opinion. And for sure, his knowledge can't be challenged regarding to Canadian immigration. Though, according to my limited knowledge, I think the other way around.



How you differ with someone who says that CSQ does NOT guarantees PR.
Then you say "it guarantees your PR at Federal level provided that you don't have any medical illness and criminal history"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So did you think that Qorax means that CSQ does NOT guarantee PR..even if the candidate don't have any medical issues and criminal history?!!!!
Huh!

Either CSQ "guarantee" the PR or NOT!
It is simple.

What happened to simple answers?!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 12:17:47 pm »

I am off these useless debates.

I believe who asked the question had the proper answer!
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DianneO
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 09:11:46 pm »

I actually got even more confused, which is why I stopped replying. Perhaps my question wasn't clear in the first place, and I apologize if this were the case.

I simply wished to know whether or not I should expect to have the PR once I receive the CSQ, provided that I pass the federal level's police and medical checks.
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 01:54:39 am »

I actually got even more confused, which is why I stopped replying. Perhaps my question wasn't clear in the first place, and I apologize if this were the case.

I simply wished to know whether or not I should expect to have the PR once I receive the CSQ, provided that I pass the federal level's police and medical checks.

U can 'expect', yes... but it's not a 'guarantee'... there could still be a "slip between the cup & the lip".
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