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[mkshah]

Dear Forum friends,
Pls read the following details taken from GPI-3-1-en version, page 23 and help me in understanding the highlighted text for my query.

There is mention of exception rules regarding the AOT points awarded based on the occupation of the applicant for education older than 5 years and work exp not related to his edu.

My query is:
Does it mean that if my degree is more than 5 years old and if I am not having related experience in last 5 years, but I hold managerial position in my current job in last 5 years qualifying in NOC code from 01 to 09 of NOC list, then I can get the points of AOT for my current profession (which is not related to my education degree which is before 5 years)?
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3.3.1.2 Criterias  1.2: Domain for training
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Page 23
General information:
-When a candidate has two degrees (or more) in areas of different training and meeting the requirements of evaluation is the one who provides the most points in the List of training areas must be taken into account.
-If the diploma was issued more than five years before the filing of the DCS must
determine whether the candidate has worked for at least one year a profession
directly related to his training with a diploma, that is to say a profession for which there is a close match according to the National Occupational Classification (NOC). For example, if a candidate has a degree in biochemistry there are more than five years but it has the profession as a chemist, points will be awarded to him because the Bachelor's degree in biochemistry is related to the profession of chemist (NOC 2112).
The LMI website online Emploi-Québec provides information
the professions (eg, nature of work, main features, conditions
access) and connections between education and occupations by
the NOC. The website Infoway FPT MELS also provides
correspondence between training and vocational secondary
college and technical occupations by the NOC.
-The rule in the previous paragraph for the degree of over
5 years are two exceptions:
-
if the candidate has held a management position (large groups from 01 to 09 as defined in the NOC), or if it was research professor and assistant research at the university in their area of training, and demonstrates that he performed duties directly related to their area of training, the test points will be awarded;
if the applicant has practiced a profession overqualified, but in line with its
field of training, this occupation may permit the award of Field points to the criterion of training. For example, a technician Computer practicing as an analyst-consultant computer (CNP 2171) may be awarded points for their technician diploma obtained there are more than five years.

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[darshmodi]

Dear Forum friends,
Pls read the following details taken from GPI-3-1-en version, page 23 and help me in understanding the highlighted text for my query.

There is mention of exception rules regarding the AOT points awarded based on the occupation of the applicant for education older than 5 years and work exp not related to his edu.

My query is:
Does it mean that if my degree is more than 5 years old and if I am not having related experience in last 5 years, but I hold managerial position in my current job in last 5 years qualifying in NOC code from 01 to 09 of NOC list, then I can get the points of AOT for my current profession (which is not related to my education degree which is before 5 years)?
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3.3.1.2 Criterias  1.2: Domain for training
...
...
...

Page 23
General information:
-When a candidate has two degrees (or more) in areas of different training and meeting the requirements of evaluation is the one who provides the most points in the List of training areas must be taken into account.
-If the diploma was issued more than five years before the filing of the DCS must
determine whether the candidate has worked for at least one year a profession
directly related to his training with a diploma, that is to say a profession for which there is a close match according to the National Occupational Classification (NOC). For example, if a candidate has a degree in biochemistry there are more than five years but it has the profession as a chemist, points will be awarded to him because the Bachelor's degree in biochemistry is related to the profession of chemist (NOC 2112).
The LMI website online Emploi-Québec provides information
the professions (eg, nature of work, main features, conditions
access) and connections between education and occupations by
the NOC. The website Infoway FPT MELS also provides
correspondence between training and vocational secondary
college and technical occupations by the NOC.
-The rule in the previous paragraph for the degree of over
5 years are two exceptions:
-
if the candidate has held a management position (large groups from 01 to 09 as defined in the NOC), or if it was research professor and assistant research at the university in their area of training, and demonstrates that he performed duties directly related to their area of training, the test points will be awarded;
if the applicant has practiced a profession overqualified, but in line with its
field of training, this occupation may permit the award of Field points to the criterion of training. For example, a technician Computer practicing as an analyst-consultant computer (CNP 2171) may be awarded points for their technician diploma obtained there are more than five years.


Dear Mr.Shah

i can give partial answer to this bcoz any how it should be linked (up to some extent)with your degree, for example,cases like me B.com and Insurance manager is yes can get benefit but if it a MBBS or something like this in that case it is very difficult to say.....
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[Thomas1987]

Anyone got Interview calls for New Delhi  Or got their Preliminary Results other than Quebec2011, asw and Walkingmarvel ??



Thanks

[xse2573]

Hello
Please when you are on the waiting list for interview, does that mean your preliminary assessment was ok?
And how long will you be on the waiting list?..What are the likely questions to know before the interview?...
And what are the likely things to do before the interview

Thanks

[mkshah]

hi darshmodi,
Thanks for your reply.
So do you mean to say that it applies to bcom degree only.. ?      
because I am having masters degree in chemistry which is more than 10 years old and also my work experience is not related to my degree. But I am having junior management position in my job profile since last 3 years.
So, ACCORDING TO THESE EXCEPTION RULES can I get this points of AOT related to my work experience in this junior management position which I hold in my current job?

I am producing it again here in this post:

-The rule in the previous paragraph for the degree of over
5 years are two exceptions:
-
if the candidate has held a management position (large groups from 01 to 09 as defined in the NOC), or if it was research professor and assistant research at the university in their area of training, and demonstrates that he performed duties directly related to their area of training, the test points will be awarded;
if the applicant has practiced a profession overqualified, but in line with its
field of training, this occupation may permit the award of Field points to the criterion of training. For example, a technician Computer practicing as an analyst-consultant computer (CNP 2171) may be awarded points for their technician diploma obtained there are more than five years.

[Thomas1987]

Hello
Please when you are on the waiting list for interview, does that mean your preliminary assessment was ok?
And how long will you be on the waiting list?..What are the likely questions to know before the interview?...
And what are the likely things to do before the interview

Thanks

As per my knowledge Preliminary Assessment is done a like one month or earlier than a month before the Interview date.
Waiting list depends on the number of applicants. If you are short of point they will intimate you via email and you need to provide more documents.  
Before the interview brush up on your french skills. Start Collating all your documents with originals.  Prepare on likely questions to be asked. Why Quebec y not other province or country things like that.


Hope this helps

Thanks

[xse2573]

As per my knowledge Preliminary Assessment is done a like one month or earlier than a month before the Interview date.
Waiting list depends on the number of applicants. If you are short of point they will intimate you via email and you need to provide more documents. 
Before the interview brush up on your french skills. Start Collating all your documents with originals.  Prepare on likely questions to be asked. Why Quebec y not other province or country things like that.


Hope this helps

Thanks

Thanks Thomas1987...so are you saying, they have done nothing?

[Thomas1987]

No i guess, as i have not got any updates

[xse2573]

No i guess, as i have not got any updates

 hELLO tHOMAS1987,How long have you been waiting?...are you on the pirioty listing of AOT?

[mkshah]

Dear all,

I really need your help for quebec immigration.
Please suggest on below information given
AM I eligibal for Quebec immigration.

Details are given below.

Name:- vishal hello c82, as per my understanding, pls see some corrections in the points calculated which is highlighted in red
Age:- 30 - 16 points
Education:- 10+2+3(BCa;- Bachelor of computer application) - 10 points here you will get only 6 points for bachelors degree and 6 points for your AOT
Experiance:- 8 years - 8 points
French Level:- A1 & A2 completed. A2 scores will be considered for points as it is your latest result for french proficiency Preparing for B1. 3 + 3 points (If you score 16 marks out of 25 in listening and speaking each)
Ielts Completed :- 5.5 bands - 2+2 points
I have 1 two years old child. - 4 points
Also add 1 point of financial self-suficiency.

My wife details are given  below

Age:- 26 - 3 points
education:- 10+2+3(BA;- Bachelor of Arts) - 2 points
She has completed French level A1.and preparing for A2. - 3 points A1 / A2 for spouse will get 1+1 point only.


Dear Sir,thanks for your promt reply.very much helpful.

little bit confuse.

1)consultant is counting 6 point for education   yes it is correct and 6 points for area of training yes, your AOT is in Section C so 6 points total of 12 points.(your counting is 10 points)

2)In which level i reuired score 16 marks out of 25 in listening and speaking becuase in A1 and A2 both having above 16 in each.(or I required 16 in B1 pleas suggest)
pl see my comment above
3)They are not counted any point in French level(for 3 point she will  required in A1 or A2) = in A2   A1 / A2 for spouse will get 1+1 points only

so adding all your points,
16+6+6+8+3+3+2+2+4+1+3+2+1+1
it makes you to score 58 points in total...
that means you are eligible and you can surely apply now as per this calculation.

[mkshah]

hi stngr, I am late in wishing you bonne chance,
however, I wish you had a nice exam and hope to get good scores.
usually AF declare the test attestations for pass candidates by 9th week of exam and gives the final copies of results to pass candidates by then end of 5 months of exam... this is on average.. it may vary country-wise..

I'm takin' DELF A2 tomorrow, wish me bonne chance  

On average - how long you waited for results at Alliance Francais?

[Stngr]

hi stngr, I am late in wishing you bonne chance,
however, I wish you had a nice exam and hope to get good scores.

Thanks, it wasn't so bad for someone who can barely speak this funny language. I wouldn't be supprised if failed, anyway my target is 16pts for listening and 8 for speakin...
If failed, next session with AF on june commin' up :-D

Results within 2 weeks, diploma within 2 months

[mkshah]

Thanks, it wasn't so bad for someone who can barely speak this funny language. I wouldn't be supprised if failed, anyway my target is 16pts for listening and 8 for speakin...
If failed, next session with AF on june commin' up :-D
that's really a sportive attitude...
Results within 2 weeks, diploma within 2 months it is pretty fast there, in India they take so much of time to give results and then diploma certi..

[egrace62]

Hi future Canadians
how many people did apply to montreal BIQ ?
any one can tell me real timing , for how long should i wait till the interview . i applied august 2011
next april , will have 2 years of experience here in Canada , which one is faster just wait for the answer of CSQ or apply for canada experience ?

well it's really difficult these days to actually get a hold on thre processing time for BIQ offices, cos of the ever increasing number of applicant, hence it really is difficult to extimate. but my advice isthis : if monry is not an issue, thn u might want to consider applying for the Canadian experience class also while the other one is on-going

[mkshah]

 @  egrace,
hi buddy, how r u? I am in need of your help again...
Can you throw some light on these exception rules for AOT points and how these applies?

Dear Forum friends,
Pls read the following details taken from GPI-3-1-en version, page 23 and help me in understanding the highlighted text for my query.

There is mention of exception rules regarding the AOT points awarded based on the occupation of the applicant for education older than 5 years and work exp not related to his edu.

My query is:
Does it mean that if my degree is more than 5 years old and if I am not having related experience in last 5 years, but I hold managerial position in my current job in last 5 years qualifying in NOC code from 01 to 09 of NOC list, then I can get the points of AOT for my current profession (which is not related to my education degree which is before 5 years)?
________________________________________________________
3.3.1.2 Criterias  1.2: Domain for training
...
...
...

Page 23
General information:
-When a candidate has two degrees (or more) in areas of different training and meeting the requirements of evaluation is the one who provides the most points in the List of training areas must be taken into account.
-If the diploma was issued more than five years before the filing of the DCS must
determine whether the candidate has worked for at least one year a profession
directly related to his training with a diploma, that is to say a profession for which there is a close match according to the National Occupational Classification (NOC). For example, if a candidate has a degree in biochemistry there are more than five years but it has the profession as a chemist, points will be awarded to him because the Bachelor's degree in biochemistry is related to the profession of chemist (NOC 2112).
The LMI website online Emploi-Québec provides information
the professions (eg, nature of work, main features, conditions
access) and connections between education and occupations by
the NOC. The website Infoway FPT MELS also provides
correspondence between training and vocational secondary
college and technical occupations by the NOC.
-The rule in the previous paragraph for the degree of over
5 years are two exceptions:
-
if the candidate has held a management position (large groups from 01 to 09 as defined in the NOC), or if it was research professor and assistant research at the university in their area of training, and demonstrates that he performed duties directly related to their area of training, the test points will be awarded;
if the applicant has practiced a profession overqualified, but in line with its
field of training, this occupation may permit the award of Field points to the criterion of training. For example, a technician Computer practicing as an analyst-consultant computer (CNP 2171) may be awarded points for their technician diploma obtained there are more than five years.

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