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[mdammalli]

 @ kps2011
If you find difficulty in obtaining DELF certificate then here are the other options

the Test d'évaluation du français adapté pour le Québec (TEFAQ) of the Chambre de commerce et d'industrie de Paris (CCIP);

the Test de connaissance du français pour le Québec (TCFQ) of the Centre international d'études pédagogiques (CIEP);

the Test d'évaluation du français (TEF) of the CCIP;

the Test de connaissance du français (TCF) of the CIEP;

the Diplôme d'études en langue française (DELF) of the CIEP;

the Diplôme approfondi de langue française (DALF) of the CIEP.


They will not accept anything other than these certificates.
However, As you might be knowing french language is not mandatory for CSQ. If your total score is more than or equeal to 57Points without french language then I suggest you to file application ASAP without claiming points for french language. Later after receiving AOR and before your CSQ interview you can courier certificate to BIQ or directly you can show certificate to interviewer at the time of interview.

[vibez_well]

However, As you might be knowing french language is not mandatory for CSQ. If your total score is more than or equeal to 57Points without french language then I suggest you to file application ASAP without claiming points for french language. Later after receiving AOR and before your CSQ interview you can courier certificate to BIQ or directly you can show certificate to interviewer at the time of interview.

he can do this, but sending the certificates after applying wont fetch him any points for language. points will be calc as per the docs submitted  @  time of appl (as per new rules). during the interview, good french will present a good impression about intentions and possibly get all the 6 pts for adaptability.

[kps2011]

he can do this, but sending the certificates after applying wont fetch him any points for language. points will be calc as per the docs submitted   @   time of appl (as per new rules). during the interview, good french will present a good impression about intentions and possibly get all the 6 pts for adaptability.

Thanks francaise, I found that AF in India doesnot conduct intensive course.I have only option of regular classes for 2 months(Part1) and other months (Part2) for BASIC A1.And then probably after 4 months I can take up the DELF A1 exam.Suggestions required?

 @ mdammalli and vibez_well , I request you to kindly confirm once again about what you said.As its very important thing to TAKE DECISION from my side.
And also I request other seniors on the forum to kindly confirm whether I can file the application(Note: Iam qualifying the 57 points under couple)ASAP without claiming points for french language. Later after receiving AOR and before CSQ interview I can courier certificate to BIQ or directly can show certificate to interviewer at the time of interview. PLEASE THIS AS URGENT QUERY.

[Bachar]

Hello
It's almost 70 days since BIQ HK get my file, and I got nothing from them
I sent them an email and they replied on Dec. 28 that my file is waiting for processing, why could it take a long time but all the others got AOR?

[francaise]

Thanks francaise, I found that AF in India doesnot conduct intensive course.I have only option of regular classes for 2 months(Part1) and other months (Part2) for BASIC A1.And then probably after 4 months I can take up the DELF A1 exam.Suggestions required?AF in Chandigarh offers intensive courses.

[satya]

hello friends.
 I'm confuse about new rules about language ability. If we submit language certificate at the time of interview, it will get points or not ?
In my case  I've cleared delf A1 and A2 . I 'll get 6 points from french language, I'm still lerning french language.  now I want to submit my application and during interview time, I'll finished delf B1 . does I get delf b1 points or not.

[mkshah]

hi vibez,
Well, I think somewhat differently here..
Yes, it is true that a new applicant after 6th dec 2011 must submit language certificates to claim points for language proficiency. But it is nowhere mention that if at the later stage applicant submits updated certificates, then they will not consider it and points will not be given for this updated language certificates. Surely new applicants can submit the proof of higher language proficiency at later stages also to claim higher points. Also, the points will not be locked for language certificates provided at the time of application.
I am looking these new rules very similar to work exp.
At the time of applying an applicant may be having lesser  duration of work experience, but at the time of interview, they will consider his latest work experience acquired till interview.
I think the same applies to this new rules of language proficiency.
These are my views about the new rules. Other members views are surely welcomed.
If there is anything mention on official website, pls share it for the benefit of all.

he can do this, but sending the certificates after applying wont fetch him any points for language. points will be calc as per the docs submitted   @   time of appl (as per new rules). during the interview, good french will present a good impression about intentions and possibly get all the 6 pts for adaptability.

[mkshah]

hi bachar,
Have they mentioned about your file number / AOR in reply to ur mail?
What I suggest u is to wait for a week or two. As they have mentioned that ur file is under processiong, surely you will hear from them very soon.
Good Luck buddy.

Hello
It's almost 70 days since BIQ HK get my file, and I got nothing from them
I sent them an email and they replied on Dec. 28 that my file is waiting for processing, why could it take a long time but all the others got AOR?

[hec006]

Hi Vibez_well,

I have  a question. Before dec 6, who have applied, marks below 16 in DELF section rule will not effect them. Correct? Anyone who has passed DELF A1 or A2 or B1 will get 2, 6, 8 . correct? But in "GUIDE DES PROCÉDURES D'IMMIGRATION" in September, I can find the following line.
[Les pointages correspondant au niveau des diplômes DELF et DALF (A1, A2, B1, B2, C1 et C2) sont accordés lorsqu'une note de passage de 16/25 et plus (66%) est obtenue par le candidat dans les deux compétences orales évaluées. Pour ce qui est des résultats inférieurs à la norme (moins de 16/25), les pointages du niveau inférieur sont accordés.]

After that no table is mentioned.

I have not the backup copy for GUIDE DES PROCÉDURES D'IMMIGRATION for August.

So, my question is that 16/25 rule is applied for those people, who have applied before December 6 on somewhat basis?
http://www.mediafire.com/?fey9g9mcwec90p4

[kps2011]

hi vibez,
Well, I think somewhat differently here..
Yes, it is true that a new applicant after 6th dec 2011 must submit language certificates to claim points for language proficiency. But it is nowhere mention that if at the later stage applicant submits updated certificates, then they will not consider it and points will not be given for this updated language certificates. Surely new applicants can submit the proof of higher language proficiency at later stages also to claim higher points. Also, the points will not be locked for language certificates provided at the time of application.
I am looking these new rules very similar to work exp.
At the time of applying an applicant may be having lesser  duration of work experience, but at the time of interview, they will consider his latest work experience acquired till interview.
I think the same applies to this new rules of language proficiency.
These are my views about the new rules. Other members views are surely welcomed.
If there is anything mention on official website, pls share it for the benefit of all.

 @ mkshah, It would be great if you can clarify me on the below part also.
And also I request other seniors on the forum to kindly confirm whether I can file the application(Note: Iam qualifying the 57 points under couple)ASAP without claiming points for french language. Later after receiving AOR and before CSQ interview I can courier certificate to BIQ or directly can show certificate to interviewer at the time of interview. PLEASE THIS AS URGENT QUERY.
.

[prestige]

hi vibez,
Well, I think somewhat differently here..
Yes, it is true that a new applicant after 6th dec 2011 must submit language certificates to claim points for language proficiency. But it is nowhere mention that if at the later stage applicant submits updated certificates, then they will not consider it and points will not be given for this updated language certificates. Surely new applicants can submit the proof of higher language proficiency at later stages also to claim higher points. Also, the points will not be locked for language certificates provided at the time of application.
I am looking these new rules very similar to work exp.
At the time of applying an applicant may be having lesser  duration of work experience, but at the time of interview, they will consider his latest work experience acquired till interview.
I think the same applies to this new rules of language proficiency.
These are my views about the new rules. Other members views are surely welcomed.
If there is anything mention on official website, pls share it for the benefit of all.

I have few questions to ask regarding the new rules, since I'm qualified for the QSW assessment:

1.) Is it considered to bring only the IELTS result as proof of language proficiency? I have not yet taken the French exam.

2.) During the interview at Hongkong, is it possible that they will reject the application for the CSQ if not convinced?

[vibez_well]

hi mkshah,

i hope you're right.. but i'm kind of pessimistic on this point. How i see this is that they want to standardize the process (look at the FSW process). You send in all your credentials and claim X point. ofcourse there are certain elements like age & workexp which has to be dealt accordingly. for language i think they want to lock it and assign a point to it. see the change to the form, theres even a checkbox stating that there is no result being attached.



again, only way to be sure about this is to hear from them directly or if a post Dec 6 applicant actually gets points for french after doing this. But i hope you're right, makes it easier for all of us.

Notice on Lang changes.
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/informations/note-language-skills.html

hi vibez,
Well, I think somewhat differently here..
Yes, it is true that a new applicant after 6th dec 2011 must submit language certificates to claim points for language proficiency. But it is nowhere mention that if at the later stage applicant submits updated certificates, then they will not consider it and points will not be given for this updated language certificates. Surely new applicants can submit the proof of higher language proficiency at later stages also to claim higher points. Also, the points will not be locked for language certificates provided at the time of application.
I am looking these new rules very similar to work exp.
At the time of applying an applicant may be having lesser  duration of work experience, but at the time of interview, they will consider his latest work experience acquired till interview.
I think the same applies to this new rules of language proficiency.
These are my views about the new rules. Other members views are surely welcomed.
If there is anything mention on official website, pls share it for the benefit of all.

[vibez_well]

honestly, i was never aware of this minimum 16 pts rule. it was only recently when someone pointed this out i came to know. so i cant comment on it. sorry ! need to chk if i have some old copy of the GPI lying in my HDD somewhere. will chk and let u knw.

Hi Vibez_well,

I have  a question. Before dec 6, who have applied, marks below 16 in DELF section rule will not effect them. Correct? Anyone who has passed DELF A1 or A2 or B1 will get 2, 6, 8 . correct? But in "GUIDE DES PROCÉDURES D'IMMIGRATION" in September, I can find the following line.
[Les pointages correspondant au niveau des diplômes DELF et DALF (A1, A2, B1, B2, C1 et C2) sont accordés lorsqu'une note de passage de 16/25 et plus (66%) est obtenue par le candidat dans les deux compétences orales évaluées. Pour ce qui est des résultats inférieurs à la norme (moins de 16/25), les pointages du niveau inférieur sont accordés.]

After that no table is mentioned.

I have not the backup copy for GUIDE DES PROCÉDURES D'IMMIGRATION for August.

So, my question is that 16/25 rule is applied for those people, who have applied before December 6 on somewhat basis?
http://www.mediafire.com/?fey9g9mcwec90p4

[mkshah]

hi kps2011,
Well, surely you can submit ur application without claiming points for french language, if u  are already reaching to 57 points which is interview threshold, but then at the later stage u will not get points for french language, if u submit certificates at later stage. Surely it will be helppful for you to show ur intentions to learn french at the time of interview.

  @  mkshah, It would be great if you can clarify me on the below part also.
And also I request other seniors on the forum to kindly confirm whether I can file the application(Note: Iam qualifying the 57 points under couple)ASAP without claiming points for french language. Later after receiving AOR and before CSQ interview I can courier certificate to BIQ or directly can show certificate to interviewer at the time of interview. PLEASE THIS AS URGENT QUERY.
.

[kps2011]

hi kps2011,
Well, surely you can submit ur application without claiming points for french language, if u  are already reaching to 57 points which is interview threshold, but then at the later stage u will not get points for french language, if u submit certificates at later stage. Surely it will be helppful for you to show ur intentions to learn french at the time of interview.

Thanks mkshah,
And finally can you tell me ,How many points i will get when i pass Delf A1 and Delf A2 respectively.