QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[mkshah]

The idea is great. you can get yourself a local degree and by the time you finish, your qsw appl would have been completed.but there are other practical difficulties. The biggest hurdle will be getting a Student Visa. Your profile with a lot of years experience will be viewed suspiciously. One of the main criteria is to prove "ties to home country" or proof that you will return to your home country after studies. If they are not convinced, they will reject your application without further consideration.

But its worth a try.. if you've got some funds at your disposal. If it gets thru, then its real cool.

Hi vibez & hec006, thanks for your reply my friends.
Well, funds is not a problem. And If I am going to spend initial years of my life struggling in quebec as immigrant, then why caa not I do it well before getting my PR and also this quebec education will give me an edge over others in getting a better job.

  @   vibez,
I actually didnt understand that why my study visa will not be granted if My intentions are to get settled in quebec after completion of my studies?

In fact, the recent changes in qsw is made to encourage such quebec students & temporary students to go for PR??
Am I not making some valid argument here?

  @   hec006,
Yes you are very correct about increase in experience during my waiting period and the loss of money if I pursue my studies during waiting period.
But it is commonly expressed by already landed immigrants that your education and work experience acquired in your country of residence will not make any impact on canadian recruiter, when u start your job search in quebec, what this recruiters will be seeking will be "canadian experience" and "canadian education".
And this I am not going to get in my home country until and unless I land in quebec.

On the other hand, if I get enroled in 1 yr course in any medium-range university, then surely I can get the canadian education during the study I can also claim some hours of canadian experience.
And you are very true, It will be very difficult for me to get admission in McGill and similar universities. But I am lokking at the middle-rated colleges/universities.

Till now, I have not decided fully to implement this idea. Just checking pros & cons of the same.

But frankly speaking, it looks more better compared to just waiting anxiously for status updation about my csq application.

[Bachar]

Hi vibez & hec006, thanks for your reply my friends.
Well, funds is not a problem. And If I am going to spend initial years of my life struggling in quebec as immigrant, then why caa not I do it well before getting my PR and also this quebec education will give me an edge over others in getting a better job.

   @    vibez,
I actually didnt understand that why my study visa will not be granted if My intentions are to get settled in quebec after completion of my studies?

In fact, the recent changes in qsw is made to encourage such quebec students & temporary students to go for PR??
Am I not making some valid argument here?

   @    hec006,
Yes you are very correct about increase in experience during my waiting period and the loss of money if I pursue my studies during waiting period.
But it is commonly expressed by already landed immigrants that your education and work experience acquired in your country of residence will not make any impact on canadian recruiter, when u start your job search in quebec, what this recruiters will be seeking will be "canadian experience" and "canadian education".
And this I am not going to get in my home country until and unless I land in quebec.

On the other hand, if I get enroled in 1 yr course in any medium-range university, then surely I can get the canadian education during the study I can also claim some hours of canadian experience.
And you are very true, It will be very difficult for me to get admission in McGill and similar universities. But I am lokking at the middle-rated colleges/universities.

Till now, I have not decided fully to implement this idea. Just checking pros & cons of the same.

But frankly speaking, it looks more better compared to just waiting anxiously for status updation about my csq application.

Hello Mkshah,
i wanna talk about your idea, my friend did the same in 2009, he was CSQ applicant and got an admission from a university in Quebec City to do his PhD,
for the visa stage no need to contact with BIQs, its a federal visa so you have to prepare your file and send it to the nearest Canadian embassy or consulate
for my friend case he got the visa and after more than one year in Quebec city they called him for CSQ interview in Montreal and he got it the same day ( of course his french was better and had a good experience in Quebec society and life style)
so he just spent 14 months with student visa and then his situation changed and became an immigrant

[vibez_well]

your logic is perfectly fine. and that is the catch !
a student visa is a temporary visa. you must prove to the VO that your intention is to come to canada to study. and that you will return back to your country after studying. you must convince the Vo of this to get your study permit approved.

the rulebook states that having a dual-intent is ok. but if the VO thinks that this is an attempt to immigrate to canada thru teh study visa route, then they will reject the appl. but once your visa is approved, they dont care a sh*t about whether you go back or stay back in canada forever. this is the stupidest thing ever, but thats the way it is ! 

here too there are 2 phases, you need to get a CAQ to study in QC. but you'll get that pretty quickly, no issues. its the feds that handle the study permit and that application goes to new delhi.

if funds arent an issue, then give it a shot dude. you can try for the  winter intake (jan/feb)

Hi vibez & hec006, thanks for your reply my friends.
  @    vibez,
I actually didnt understand that why my study visa will not be granted if My intentions are to get settled in quebec after completion of my studies?

In fact, the recent changes in qsw is made to encourage such quebec students & temporary students to go for PR??
Am I not making some valid argument here?

[niravk]

Hi Friends
 
As per the new intake rules published on the immigration website, an applicant can file his application under the skilled worker class between April 01, 2012 to March 31, 2013 under a list of situations. Out of which, one situation is:

“You or your accompanying spouse hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training allowing you to get 6 (http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/divers/domaines-6.pdf), 12 or 16 points under the area of training criterion of the selection grid for skilled workers (see list, in French, 35 kb). The number of years of study required to obtain your diploma must be at least equal to the number of years required to obtain that diploma in Québec. This diploma was obtained less than five years before the date of your application. Failing that, you must have practiced, on a full-time basis and for at least one year out of the five years preceding the date of your application, a profession or trade in an area related to that diploma.”

However there is some confusion regarding intake of applications for those who have done B.com from India. I feel that anyone from India who is a commerce graduate in accounting and management, three years full time course (Techniques de comptabilité et de gestion – C038) can gain 6 points for his area of training even after implementation of this rule. This is equivalent to 14 years of full time studies in Quebec vis a vis 15 years of full time studies in India.

This is how I interpret the information. Correct me if I am wrong. Would be awaiting inputs of other senior members on this.

[mef]

Dear All – especially those who have landed already in MONTREAL -,

I need your help,  the time of landing is approaching (26-Aug-2012), We have been looking online for Studio or Apartment since almost 2 weeks, all are expensive, they are asking for minimum of CAD 2000 / Month.

Please send me some links or contacts if you know any downtown decent independent places where we can live until we settle!
Waiting for your assistance.

Vio & Mef

[vibez_well]

hi, did you try craigslist.com ?
http://montreal.craigslist.ca/apa/

Dear All – especially those who have landed already in MONTREAL -,

I need your help,  the time of landing is approaching (26-Aug-2012), We have been looking online for Studio or Apartment since almost 2 weeks, all are expensive, they are asking for minimum of CAD 2000 / Month.

Please send me some links or contacts if you know any downtown decent independent places where we can live until we settle!
Waiting for your assistance.

Vio & Mef

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[Bachar]

Dear All – especially those who have landed already in MONTREAL -,

I need your help,  the time of landing is approaching (26-Aug-2012), We have been looking online for Studio or Apartment since almost 2 weeks, all are expensive, they are asking for minimum of CAD 2000 / Month.

Please send me some links or contacts if you know any downtown decent independent places where we can live until we settle!
Waiting for your assistance.

Vio & Mef

Hello,
3 of my friends used this

www.berrisuites.ca

they said it has a good location in Montreal

[Patriots1700]

Hi everyone ,

Do you guys think that traveling to quebec for a short time might help my selection process? Not in getting points kind of way ,  the most that my work would let me out is two weeks , do you think it's something i should do? In January i would be able to have 2 weeks vacation and i can afford the ticket ,  i have friends and an uncle there also , so i wouldn't have to pay for Hotel . I am just thinking of spending 1 week ,but if it won't make any difference on my file i rather save the money .So what you guys think ? Would i be able to write something about my trip ? Like i went to check schools and places to live for a week? Thanks.

[Dishabhi]

Hi Guys,

I have applied for PR Quebec, i have submitted the DD and application along with the required documents in the month on November 2011, i Received a acknowledgement from the Hong Kong office on Feb 6th of 2012.
Request you to please help me in finding the status on the same as i am unable to see the status on the below mentioned link.
 services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/authenticate.do# , As its not identifying the numbers mentioned in the letter which i received from the Hong Kong Office.

please guid me which number to be used. I have received the below mentioned 2 numbers
1) No dossier
2) N ref ind.

Please help in to know the status as i am very much worried as i havent received any response after the latters received on Feb.

[xse2573]

Hi Guys,

I have applied for PR Quebec, i have submitted the DD and application along with the required documents in the month on November 2011, i Received a acknowledgement from the Hong Kong office on Feb 6th of 2012.
Request you to please help me in finding the status on the same as i am unable to see the status on the below mentioned link.
 services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/authenticate.do# , As its not identifying the numbers mentioned in the letter which i received from the Hong Kong Office.

please guid me which number to be used. I have received the below mentioned 2 numbers
1) No dossier
2) N ref ind.

Please help in to know the status as i am very much worried as i havent received any response after the latters received on Feb.

Hello
You CAN NOT check your status at this stage. It seems from your post that you are waiting for interview. So you are still at the GETTING THE CSQ stage. After the CSQ, you will file for QSW/FSW and then they will send you AOR and MR, from there you will have a new file number called UCI which you can now use to check your status.
I HOPE THIS HELP!!!

[ambi1775]

I think this is good idea, if u can afford it go for it.But u have to convince the visa officer and this is not easy game.

anyway good luck

ambi

Thank you sharptooth & Pippin. So I got answers for my query 1 & 2 of below:
Pls help me with the other queries too.

1. if I can get admission in any of colleges in
montreal, can I still continue with my QSW
application?
2. Will this have any efffect on the result of my qsw application?

3. If I got admission in quebec college, then what will be my BIQ  then? Currently, my biq is HK as I live in India and applied from here.

4: if I get interview after moving to quebec for study visa, then where will it be scheduled? In India/HK or   @   montreal?

5. Any other suggestions from you guys are most welcome.

6.what u guys think about my this thoughts?

7. If I get admission as student in any quebec university, can I take my wife as dependent with me?


Thanks in advance.

[niravk]

Hi

Can anyone help me on this.

 
As per the new intake rules published on the immigration website, an applicant can file his application under the skilled worker class between April 01, 2012 to March 31, 2013 under a list of situations. Out of which, one situation is:

“You or your accompanying spouse hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training allowing you to get 6 (http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/divers/domaines-6.pdf), 12 or 16 points under the area of training criterion of the selection grid for skilled workers (see list, in French, 35 kb). The number of years of study required to obtain your diploma must be at least equal to the number of years required to obtain that diploma in Québec. This diploma was obtained less than five years before the date of your application. Failing that, you must have practiced, on a full-time basis and for at least one year out of the five years preceding the date of your application, a profession or trade in an area related to that diploma.”

However there is some confusion regarding intake of applications for those who have done B.com from India. I feel that anyone from India who is a commerce graduate in accounting and management, three years full time course (Techniques de comptabilité et de gestion – C038) can gain 6 points for his area of training even after implementation of this rule. This is equivalent to 14 years of full time studies in Quebec vis a vis 15 years of full time studies in India.

This is how I interpret the information. Correct me if I am wrong. Would be awaiting inputs of other senior members on this.

[Bachar]

Hi everyone ,

Do you guys think that traveling to quebec for a short time might help my selection process? Not in getting points kind of way ,  the most that my work would let me out is two weeks , do you think it's something i should do? In January i would be able to have 2 weeks vacation and i can afford the ticket ,  i have friends and an uncle there also , so i wouldn't have to pay for Hotel . I am just thinking of spending 1 week ,but if it won't make any difference on my file i rather save the money .So what you guys think ? Would i be able to write something about my trip ? Like i went to check schools and places to live for a week? Thanks.

I think it's a good idea, here is one of forum members told us about his interview and how it was useful to him that he went to Montreal
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/quebec-applicants-lets-share-experience-t37196.8730.html

Hi all.. just wanted to share my detailed experience with you all...

Me and my wife filled our Quebec Immigration Application on 12th Dec 2010.. from UK, England and got the interview call for 21st Aug 2011, which we postponed and then another interview request came for 16h Nov 2011.

Our Interview was in the Paris on 16th Nov 2011 at 2:30pm. We got there at 2:15pm and waited for the interviewer to call us in.

We were called in, after an hour of questions we got the CSQ.

Detailed stuff prior to the interview:

Me and my wife took 6 weeks French course from the language school, we got a certificate of them, which we inserted in our file submitted initially. Also, later on near the interview time, we took some private lessons of learning French for 2 months.. I also reckon anyone who is learning French, start with Michel Thomas learning and lessons of coffee break with French. This will really help you learning in a quick time.

We arranged for a trip to Canada – Montreal for 2 weeks in September 2011. It turned out to be a really good research trip.

We hired a self catering apartment for the duration and lived there as we were living there from a long time. We did grocery shopping, explored the city by visiting all the tourist places and also explored the neighbourhoods.

This Trip had been very benefited for our interview as we kept hold of all the receipts and the places we visited.. which later on we inserted in the file we prepared for our interview. Also, if you have stayed in Canada for at least 2 weeks you get 1 point too but most importantly it shows the interviewer you are serious and have solid plans to make that province your future home. I would strongly recommend if you can afford the time and money, please do make an effort for that visit.

Secondly, we prepared the file with the following documents..
-   our detailed financial plan – stating how much money we had and what are outgoings would be.. i.e. rent, utility charges, grocery, transport, telephone.. (Interviewer didn't ask for it though.. we just prepared to give him all this.. Also we took recent bank statements but when we took it out from the file, he said I don't want to see any of your bank statements.)
-   then we inserted all the job search we did.. study of the market in Montreal.. list of all the agencies or company's in Montreal.. any job offers or even any current job adverts.. we didn't had any job offers, we just took some job adverts with us. (which the interviewer was quite impressed with)
-   Then we inserted our plans for learning French.. we took some leaflets from the Mcgill University (in Montreal, Quebec) and inquired for the French course, which we inserted in our prep file. Also, we took a letter from our private tutor, who stated our progress to what we had learnt so far.. i.e. phrases, tenses, colours, numbers, introduction.. very basic stuff.. (he was very impressed with this and said that's very good that you are taking pains in learning French)
-   Then we inserted the knowledge we have about Quebec.. the seasons it has, the holidays, about the tax..  (Interviewer didn't see any of these though and didn't even ask anything about it.. but it's good to have..)
-   Then, we inserted all the places we visited in Montreal... all the research we collected from there.. i.e. where would we get our phone contract from, where and how to get metro – fares.. (Again, the interviewer didn't see any of these.. I guess he was quite impressed with us already with our job searches.. but I would still suggest to prepare this detailed file.. it gives you such a confidence that you are prepared to answer any questions..

Detailed stuff during the interview:
Me and my wife both are a very basic French user but did prepare our answers in French.. and put quite a lot of effort in learning the phrases and a bit of vocabulary.

Our Interview was in the Paris on 16th Nov 2011 at 2:30pm. We got there at 2:15pm and waited for the interviewer to call us in.

Our Interviewer was very gentle and humble.. As we sat down, we did general French gestures and first thing the interviewer said.. I know you are a basic French user, so don't worry I will test your French learning later on in the interview.. I will talk to you in English.. (we felt very relived but still tried to answer in French where we could.. and kept on inserting little French gestures, later on the interview he never asked us anything to test our French.. I guess he didn't left with any time.. as our interview was later in the afternoon, he was in a rush to finish off with us)

Then he started confirming our names, addresses.. and asked for our passports and nationality.. asked if we had any kids.. (we answered all this in English.. )

Then he asked me about my work.. which I mentioned about where and what I work,. I showed him the appreciation letters I received from my work, which the interviewer quite liked.

Then he asked us that we have been in UK from last 10 years, now why do we want to migrate to Quebec.. what are our reasons and what adjustments did we had to make when we came over to UK..  (which I answered all in English)

And straight after this We mention to him about our visit to Montréal.. that we went there as a research visit and explored it.. and to which we showed him our flight itinerary and all the receipts and places we had visit..

He was quite impressed with our research visit though.. specially we plan it to explore the city.

Then he asked us if we know any job market in Quebec. To which, we showed him all the companies we searched within our field.. and the job adverts we saw onto those companies.

Then he asked my wife about her work, even though it wasn't calculated into any points.

Then he asked us if we have any kids.. we said not yet but are planning to have once we reach to Montreal.

In between some where in middle of asking questions.. he said don't worry I am going to give you a good news shortly.. and then carried on asking few more general questions about our plans of learning French and telling us in general about Paris and Quebec..

Then he said welcome to Quebec.. and he printed off the CSQ.. and then he told us to start collecting all our documents which were on his table (the documents which we have been taking out from our files to show him) and then he printed the other useful letters along with the CSQ, which told us the procedure of what to do next.

This whole interview process took an hour.. but questions in general would have been only 20 minutes.. it was a very relaxed interview. I would say 90% in English and 10% in French..

I would suggest.. wear smart clothes, be confident in showing any document and talk clear and honest.

Good Luck..

[Patriots1700]

Thank you so much Bachar ! Your post really helped me clear my doubts , now i know for sure so i will start getting ready for the trip .

[manojneelu]

niravk,

I agree with you. Basically, there are different education levels, in which applicants may earn 6 points. So after, Secondary School Diploma (SSD) which is earned after 11 years of education in Quebec, there are options one can choose: Vocational Training (DVS) or Technical DCS or Pre-University Diploma.

In your case, you have Accounting and Management, three years full time college diploma which is equivalent to Accounting and Management Techniques (DCS-3 yrs) in the 2009 List of Area of Training in Section C, College Level Technical Training. As you rightly said, you spent 15 yrs completing this course compared to 14 yrs required in the Quebec system.

So, it's important to see at what level your diploma/degree fall in to. Accordingly, you need to calculate minimum number of years of studies you need to have to be equivalent to a Quebec diploma/degree to earn (at least) 6 points.

Well, this is my humble opinion, and everyone else is entitled to theirs. I respect and welcome other opinions. Because, I am here in this forum to learn from others.

Hi Friends
 
As per the new intake rules published on the immigration website, an applicant can file his application under the skilled worker class between April 01, 2012 to March 31, 2013 under a list of situations. Out of which, one situation is:

“You or your accompanying spouse hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training allowing you to get 6 (http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/divers/domaines-6.pdf), 12 or 16 points under the area of training criterion of the selection grid for skilled workers (see list, in French, 35 kb). The number of years of study required to obtain your diploma must be at least equal to the number of years required to obtain that diploma in Québec. This diploma was obtained less than five years before the date of your application. Failing that, you must have practiced, on a full-time basis and for at least one year out of the five years preceding the date of your application, a profession or trade in an area related to that diploma.”

However there is some confusion regarding intake of applications for those who have done B.com from India. I feel that anyone from India who is a commerce graduate in accounting and management, three years full time course (Techniques de comptabilité et de gestion – C038) can gain 6 points for his area of training even after implementation of this rule. This is equivalent to 14 years of full time studies in Quebec vis a vis 15 years of full time studies in India.

This is how I interpret the information. Correct me if I am wrong. Would be awaiting inputs of other senior members on this.