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« Reply #12390 on: May 05, 2012, 06:51:06 am » |
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m81, I think your logic is more correct. I spoke to the Montreal office lady who confirmed with her superior that an original provisional certificate showing marks would naturally be accepted even if it's not the main certificate. But ofcourse, we can't rely on advice over the phone. But people won't be bothered about this much now because only 512 applications have gone in so everyone has plenty of time to wait for the main certificates and then send their application to be on the safer side.
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« Reply #12391 on: May 05, 2012, 07:12:22 am » |
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is any body hear in this forum who can confirm whether they accepted his attestation of delf as the new requirement in the handbook specifically mentions providing diploma and not attestation of delf results which is very tedious as diplomas dont come quickly and take about 4-5 months i would like to hear from those who applied in march (not just after 21st march but also before) ho might have got aor with attestation results only
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« Reply #12392 on: May 05, 2012, 07:44:54 am » |
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appreciate your response m81 but the line i quote from your reply ""Au moment de l'examen de la demande, le fonctionnaire à l'immigration s'assure de l'authenticité des résultats indiqués sur les attestations en utilisant les informations disponibles dans les sites sécurisés des fournisseurs (organismes émetteurs). Pour ce faire, il doit avoir préalablement obtenu l'autorisation de son gestionnaire pour accéder aux sites sécurisés de validation."
this is for the anglais section and not the francais section this clause means that for english there is online database with idp ielts and therefore they can log into that databse with permission from idp guys and confirm your ielts results on your trf with their database
but for french there is no online database all the record are with the local alliance francaise and with commision nationale that is why it is tedious for them to verify your results of french given by attestation with any permanent record with the organisation which issued you the exam certificate thats why they are more strict with delf/dalf results and therefore the clause for delf dalf i again quote
Les relevés de résultats d'une session DELF ou DALF ne sont pas acceptés comme preuve de compétence en français. Pour faire valoir des résultats obtenus aux épreuves du DELF ou du DALF, il est nécessaire de produire un exemplaire de diplôme émis par la Commission nationale du DELF-DALF.
clearly states that only diplomas are accepted for delf/dalf the term releves de resultats means statement of results which is the case with attestations they are just statements and not official results the official is the diploma only in delf/dalf which is authentic and undisputable
the views can be different and even if you contact secretaries/phone attendents at the biq they will also have many opinions but ultimately it is the officer which decides and he decides in accordance with the rules in handbook strictly and not through opinions therefore it might even be possible that one or two may get accepted with attestations but that will not be the case with everyone as there is lot of ambiguity here and everything seems dima and unclear
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« Reply #12393 on: May 05, 2012, 07:49:46 am » |
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je voudrais savoir si ya des ecoles publiques primaires et secondaires anglaises a montreal, j'ai entendu dire que c'est difficile d'inscrire ses enfants dans des ecoles anglaises au Quebec car la scolarisation est obligatoirement en Francais . moi je suis Agerien et je compte immigrer tres prochainnement au Quebec avec ma femme Algerienne aussi et mes 2 enfants, mais le probleme c'est que mes enfants etudient en langue anglaise etant donné qu'on vit a Dubai acctuelement et suivent un systeme scolaire anglais. et je veux qu'ils continuent sur le meme systeme anglais. est ce que ca serait facile et possible de les inscrire dans des ecoles anglaises a Montreal ? ou dois je voir du coté canadien anglais (sachant que je prefere Montreal). merci de me repondre.
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« Reply #12394 on: May 05, 2012, 07:54:08 am » |
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Dear all
Today i got MR for my wife , its amazing CHC London sent it in 1 month only.
prey for me
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« Reply #12395 on: May 05, 2012, 08:05:12 am » |
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Dear all
Today i got MR for my wife , its amazing CHC London sent it in 1 month only.
prey for me
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Good luck rana Inshallah the next stage will be much faster...Please pray for us all..
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« Reply #12396 on: May 05, 2012, 09:40:51 am » |
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After I passed DELF exam, I got that RELEVE thing and it is logical that could not be accepted as proof..but then I went to Alliance and they gave me ATTESTATION... My exam was in February and I will get my diploma in October... I really hope they are not so s... not to take attestation as proof...
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« Reply #12397 on: May 05, 2012, 10:16:28 am » |
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Are proof of funds required when you land in Quebec?
Does anyone know about this?
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« Reply #12398 on: May 05, 2012, 10:51:22 am » |
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Thank you bajan4quebec. If you don't mind me asking did you send any bank statement with your initial application ? Or did you just fill the contract for financial sufficiency ?
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« Reply #12399 on: May 05, 2012, 04:35:16 pm » |
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appreciate your response m81 but the line i quote from your reply ""Au moment de l'examen de la demande, le fonctionnaire à l'immigration s'assure de l'authenticité des résultats indiqués sur les attestations en utilisant les informations disponibles dans les sites sécurisés des fournisseurs (organismes émetteurs). Pour ce faire, il doit avoir préalablement obtenu l'autorisation de son gestionnaire pour accéder aux sites sécurisés de validation."
this is for the anglais section and not the francais section this clause means that for english there is online database with idp ielts and therefore they can log into that databse with permission from idp guys and confirm your ielts results on your trf with their database
Check Page 37 ! The paragraph can be found both for the english and the FRENCH section
but for french there is no online database all the record are with the local alliance francaise and with commision nationale that is why it is tedious for them to verify your results of french given by attestation with any permanent record with the organisation which issued you the exam certificate thats why they are more strict with delf/dalf results and therefore the clause for delf dalf i again quote
Les relevés de résultats d'une session DELF ou DALF ne sont pas acceptés comme preuve de compétence en français. Pour faire valoir des résultats obtenus aux épreuves du DELF ou du DALF, il est nécessaire de produire un exemplaire de diplôme émis par la Commission nationale du DELF-DALF.
clearly states that only diplomas are accepted for delf/dalf the term releves de resultats means statement of results which is the case with attestations they are just statements and not official results the official is the diploma only in delf/dalf which is authentic and undisputable
the views can be different and even if you contact secretaries/phone attendents at the biq they will also have many opinions but ultimately it is the officer which decides and he decides in accordance with the rules in handbook strictly and not through opinions therefore it might even be possible that one or two may get accepted with attestations but that will not be the case with everyone as there is lot of ambiguity here and everything seems dima and unclear
What is clear to me is that it talks about "relevés" then about "attestation", which are two different things. In any case, everybody can understand whatever they want. I would prefer to be positive about all this, and wait until I hear directly from them. I think this forum used to be more helpful, now there is too much speculation about this or that. I wish we could hear more about people who recently went through the process of sending their application, interview, etc...I think we could learn much more from them rather than people saying 'maybe this'...'maybe that'
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« Reply #12400 on: May 05, 2012, 04:41:24 pm » |
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After I passed DELF exam, I got that RELEVE thing and it is logical that could not be accepted as proof..but then I went to Alliance and they gave me ATTESTATION... My exam was in February and I will get my diploma in October... I really hope they are not so s... not to take attestation as proof...
You see, it seems that it is done differently depending on where the exam is taken. When I finished the DALF C1 exam, I didn't receive any RELEVE. I had to wait a month to receive my ATTESTATION DE REUSSITE and that's what I sent...
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« Reply #12401 on: May 05, 2012, 05:23:38 pm » |
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Does anyone know about this?
Proof of funds is required at the interview stage.... upon landing if you have more than $10,000 CAN you must indicate this to the back of arrival/immigration card and again to the customs/douane officer when you indicate to them you came to do your landing. You do not have to take all $10,000 (or if more) as physical/liquid cash....you can have your money in the form of money orders, managers cheques, travellers cheques etc...or in other securities such as bonds, tresury notes etc. Hope this helps
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« Reply #12402 on: May 05, 2012, 05:29:06 pm » |
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Thank you bajan4quebec. If you don't mind me asking did you send any bank statement with your initial application ? Or did you just fill the contract for financial sufficiency ?
At the initial application you just need to sign the contract of self sufficiency, please be sure that you indicate the correct amount and sign the form in the correct place (not in caregiver section)...for me 1 applicant was $2,800 CAN for two (2) persons it was $4,300 and it increases with each additional family member. Bank statements at least showing the last three (3) months transactions will be needed if you are called for an interview as the proof of your funds that you declared that you have when you signed the contract of self sufficiency. Bajan
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« Reply #12403 on: May 05, 2012, 05:42:06 pm » |
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What is clear to me is that it talks about "relevés" then about "attestation", which are two different things. In any case, everybody can understand whatever they want. I would prefer to be positive about all this, and wait until I hear directly from them. I think this forum used to be more helpful, now there is too much speculation about this or that. I wish we could hear more about people who recently went through the process of sending their application, interview, etc...I think we could learn much more from them rather than people saying 'maybe this'...'maybe that'
I find this comment a bit of a slap in the face to some who are trying earnestly to help, the reason is these changes were imposed recently and to be honest no one knows; with this said forum members are trying their best to find out - I have read several blogs recently here where members had made calls to various BIQ's and sent emails to same to get some clarity. Have patience my friend, everyone is still trying to help... Older seniors may not be able to give any sound advice as these changes are new, and those who applied this year will not have any experience to share what was really accepted until next year as they have just applied. We are just like you and trying to help others in light of this shifting sand called "Quebec Immigration rules to come" I'm kindly asking you, just couch what you have to say in a more positive manner please...
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« Reply #12404 on: May 05, 2012, 06:02:10 pm » |
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Proof of funds is required at the interview stage....
upon landing if you have more than $10,000 CAN you must indicate this to the back of arrival/immigration card and again to the customs/douane officer when you indicate to them you came to do your landing.
You do not have to take all $10,000 (or if more) as physical/liquid cash....you can have your money in the form of money orders, managers cheques, travellers cheques etc...or in other securities such as bonds, tresury notes etc.
Hope this helps
I have already obtained my QCS. So when I arrive in Quebec I won't need to show proof of funds upon arrival? Thanks for your help.
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