QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[hec006]

So do anyone got rejection just to 15 year of study? Because in Ahmedabad all agents tell that they have sucessfuly sent bsc students of India with 15 years of study only.

This is correct statement. You can apply. but, you will never get point in AOT. May be they have got points in other area.. that's why many ahmedabad agents sent BSC student.

[Umer Shahzad]

Hello Umar,

Is your master in strategic business management is 2 year degree? what is your bachelor degree? when the degrees are completed? Do u have experience in which area in last 5 years?

yes it is my second degree my bach was in engineering plus i ve 2 years experience relevant to my masters in the 5 years time

[chandrock]

Is your PGPM ( Marketing) a part time or full time program?

B.E(2004) + 5 year = 2009 + 3year( Sales exp)= 2012...

B.E(Mechanical) is in Group 2 - AOT-6 points unless u have the degree from Quebec. and under cap system

Hi hec006,

Thanks for you reply..

The PGPM program is a full time program from a B-School. Furnishing exact details below
BE - Mechanical (2002) Fulltime + 5.5 yrs exp
PGPM - Marketing (2009) Fulltime + 2.8 yrs exp
All degrees acquired from India..

Should i apply for BE or PGPM or for  both ?? which group do i belong ?? pretty confusing 

[Umer Shahzad]

Your PGPM will be given priority because you have acquired the degree in the year 2009 which is with in 5 years i think so you belong to 2nd group but i am not sure

Hi hec006,

Thanks for you reply..

The PGPM program is a full time program from a B-School. Furnishing exact details below
BE - Mechanical (2002) Fulltime + 5.5 yrs exp
PGPM - Marketing (2009) Fulltime + 2.8 yrs exp
All degrees acquired from India..

Should i apply for BE or PGPM or for  both ?? which group do i belong ?? pretty confusing 

[hec006]

Special Edition: Canadian Government Slashes Backlog
MARCH, 2012
BREAKING NEWS
see how tough they are being in handling backlog for federal applications of skilled workers...really painful for those who has been waiting for PR for so many years......................

Yes, this a very sad news. But, for long time they were just delaying the process of application before Feb 27, 2008. Ex:
Average processing time is 18-20 months.

Visa Office    Processing Times IN MONTHS
(based on a complete application package)
Applications received BEFORE February 27, 2008    Applications received BETWEEN November 28, 2008 and June 25, 2010
Beijing - China                    57                                                                     20
Colombo - Sri Lanka            68                                                                     21
Hong Kong - China            62                                                                     21
Islamabad - Pakistan            88                                                                     27
Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia    55                                                                     19
Manila - Philippines            82                                                                     18
New Delhi - India                    93                                                                      18
Seoul - South Korea            60                                                                     21
Singapore - Singapore            74                                                                     19
Sydney - Australia            56                                                                     19
Tokyo - Japan                    68                                                                     17

Hence, may be thay don't want those people who are before 2008. :-) Actually, at that time rule was very easy. and most of the applicants posses the skill in which canada doesn't have skill shortage.

[hec006]

Hi hec006,

Thanks for you reply..

The PGPM program is a full time program from a B-School. Furnishing exact details below
BE - Mechanical (2002) Fulltime + 5.5 yrs exp
PGPM - Marketing (2009) Fulltime + 2.8 yrs exp
All degrees acquired from India..

Should i apply for BE or PGPM or for  both ?? which group do i belong ?? pretty confusing 

No definitely apply through PGPM. You will get 12 points. As it will be treated as Business management( Gestion de commerces). You will be group 1. and your NOC will be equivalent to training area.

[hec006]

yes it is my second degree my bach was in engineering plus i ve 2 years experience relevant to my masters in the 5 years time

Hello, you will be group 1. AOT=12 point. Gestion de commerces - Business Management. Apply through strategic business management.

[chandrock]

No definitely apply through PGPM. You will get 12 points. As it will be treated as Business management( Gestion de commerces). You will be group 1. and your NOC will be equivalent to training area.

Hi hec006,

But the my PGPM is a one year program, I am not able to spot the equivalent degree in the training list..The business management programs are showing (DCS 3years) in their list..

[javeedislam]

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http://www.cicnews.com/2012/03/canadian-government-slashes-backlog-031472.html

[hec006]

Hi hec006,

But the my PGPM is a one year program, I am not able to spot the equivalent degree in the training list..The business management programs are showing (DCS 3years) in their list..

If it is one year program, then it will be not treated as Master degree ( In quebec master degree is obtained after 18years full time study). Your bachelor and master degree is not in same domain.. For your bachelor degree you will get points for AOT= 6 points.( group 2), as you have exp at least 1 year in last 5 year. For education, you will get 10 point.

[chandrock]

If it is one year program, then it will be not treated as Master degree ( In quebec master degree is obtained after 18years full time study). Your bachelor and master degree is not in same domain.. For your bachelor degree you will get points for AOT= 6 points.( group 2), as you have exp at least 1 year in last 5 year. For education, you will get 10 point.

So if i need to apply. I have only option in Group 2. I prefer applying with my PGPM as have acquired it 3 years ago and presently working in the same domain..Correct me if i am wrong ??

FYI.. i have not changed domain, even after i did my PGPM i am in mechanical engineering (manufacturing) field only..all my 8 years of experience is in Manufacturing domain..does this give any chance for group 1 ??

[hec006]

So if i need to apply. I have only option in Group 2. I prefer applying with my PGPM as have acquired it 3 years ago and presently working in the same domain..Correct me if i am wrong ??

FYI.. i have not changed domain, even after i did my PGPM i am in mechanical engineering (manufacturing) field only..all my 8 years of experience is in Manufacturing domain..does this give any chance for group 1 ??

Please give all the details in application form. You need not to mention through which you are applying. But, in intended work area is relevant to PGPM. They will consider you in which you score best points. Apply ASAP. After that do your analysis. :-)

Mechanical is in Grp 2. Management is in Grp 1.

[chandrock]

Please give all the details in application form. You need not to mention through which you are applying. But, in intended work area is relevant to PGPM. They will consider you in which you score best points. Apply ASAP. After that do your analysis. :-)

Mechanical is in Grp 2. Management is in Grp 1.

Thanks a ton hec006.. Really appreciate your valuable guidance..will apply through group 1.. will keep you posted buddy

[Styl Hunt]

Thanks a ton hec006.. Really appreciate your valuable guidance..will apply through group 1.. will keep you posted buddy

he cant apply   as AOT -12 (Group-1) beacuse   degree  equivalent  issue and  you must  submit  w.r.t  Grp- AOT-6 other wise  you will not  get point..... Please  consult with Senior Member plzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......Stilhop, Shah and others .. they  will  guide better and  try to enrolled in French language  as early as possible,  other  wise  you would in  trouble  then ......... beacuse  you have  to complete 49 points

[mkshah]

hi nevillek,
I agree with hec006. Dont waste your time running behind whims of consultants. It will costs you money which you already did, and time, which you can save by doing it by yourself. Forget now about the money you paid, because I never seen any agent refunding money to a person, if he doesnt want to seek consultant's support and wishes to do his application by himself.
 
Instead do it yourself and take help of forum members here.
Also keep in mind the recent cap introduced by quebec.
During last year 2011 only, they have received approx 60000 applications for qsw, so if you are in group 2, it is very likely that the proposed quota of 14300 will be fille in very quickly even before march 2013.

Hello nevillek,

thanks for raising the question. In first view, it is very contradictory issue. M.COM/B.COM study all the things such as Accounting, Finance etc. But, So it may be under Finance or Accounting Category. But, as B.Com/M.Com contains mostly accounting part, as per Quebec equivalent education system, B.COM/M.COM falls under category 2 and gets 6 points for AOT.

You can find the same in Training list category pdf. ( It is mentioned as accounting ( DCS-3years)).

You have to apply very fast. Don't worry friend. Don't go for consultancy. they will make it delayed. Go by your self. it wil be within 10 days. There is still time to fill the quota. Here, we all are here to help you. Just gather all the docs, fill the application and send to them ASAP.

There is the probability to implement the training wise cap in near future. then it will be again very tough.

Good Luck...