QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[hec006]

Exactly Xse, it's not independent of each other no matter which province all applications eventually pass through the Federal level.   @  hec006 you are also misleading others if you state that changes wouldnt be made at least for another year since changes could be made at anytime thats why we are always encouraged to apply as soon as possible but now we see even though you applied and waiting patiently changes could be made that directly affects you.

 @ Bajan4Quebec: Quebec applicants undergoes through Federal part definitely, but Quebec applicants are under QSW category and CIC has implemented the new process only for FSW not for other category, CIC doesn't undergo any type of selection, who are coming through Quebec channel. They just do continue the oficial process. CSQ is the main barrier for getting PR in Canada under Quebec channel. CSQ is strictly dependent on Quebec government. There is a mutual agreement between CIC and BIQ. But, decision on QSW category, strictly depends on Quebec decison, not on CIC.

Moreover, I am not misleading any others and not giving the false information. Yes, people should apply first before reaching the quota for this year. I am encouraging the people and not trying to demotivate them.

Yes, any policy can be implemented at any time. But, this type of decision, such as returning the application, implementing the cap system generally happens for one time in a year. This things has been happened for Australia-PR( New EOI will be implemented in July, 2012)( New point system implemented in July, 2011), UK ( For HSMP- stopping the application in December, 2010 & not processing the application before certain date)previously.

If you have the data you can put forward here, otherwise people will understand that everything based on your personal assumption.

[nevillek]

Guys, according to the latest CIC newsletter (http://www.cicnews.com/2012/03/quebec-immigration-summary-031444.html), Quebec has divided applications into 3 groups based on areas of training, 2 of which are as follows:

Group 1: Applicants, or their spouses, who hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training (field of study)which allows them to receive 12 or 16 points on the province's selection grid

Group 2: Applicants, or their spouses, who hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training which allows them to receive 6 points under the province's selection grid

An unlimited number of applications will be accepted for Group 1 BUT only 14,300 applications will be accepted for Group 2 between 21 March 2012 and 31 March 2013.

This is very serious in my opinion and I believe all those who have still not applied will be very worried if they are falling in Group 2 because Quebec receives thousands of applications every year which means that the 14,300 threshold will fill up very very fast.  

Can someone please tell me what group does an 'B.Com./M.Com.' degree and a year's work experience in the same field fall under? I think it's Section C which is only 6 points, therefore Group 2 and a cause of BIG WORRY. I want to send my application ASAP but I have just registered with an immigration consultant by paying hefty fees and they take 1 month to dispatch the application whereas if I did it on my own, I could do it in less than a week. I don't know what to do now!    

[hec006]

Guys, according to the latest CIC newsletter (http://www.cicnews.com/2012/03/quebec-immigration-summary-031444.html), Quebec has divided applications into 3 groups based on areas of training, 2 of which are as follows:

Group 1: Applicants, or their spouses, who hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training (field of study)which allows them to receive 12 or 16 points on the province's selection grid

Group 2: Applicants, or their spouses, who hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training which allows them to receive 6 points under the province's selection grid

An unlimited number of applications will be accepted for Group 1 BUT only 14,300 applications will be accepted for Group 2 between 21 March 2012 and 31 March 2013.

This is very serious in my opinion and I believe all those who have still not applied will be very worried if they are falling in Group 2 because Quebec receives over 100,000 applications every year which means that the 14,300 threshold will fill up very very fast.  

Can someone please tell me what group does an 'B.Com./M.Com.' degree and a year's work experience in the same field fall under? I think it's Section C which is only 6 points, therefore Group 2 and a cause of BIG WORRY. I want to send my application ASAP but I have just registered with an immigration consultant by paying hefty fees and they take 1 month to dispatch the application whereas if I did it on my own, I could do it in less than a week. I don't know what to do now!    

Hello nevillek,

thanks for raising the question. In first view, it is very contradictory issue. M.COM/B.COM study all the things such as Accounting, Finance etc. But, So it may be under Finance or Accounting Category. But, as B.Com/M.Com contains mostly accounting part, as per Quebec equivalent education system, B.COM/M.COM falls under category 2 and gets 6 points for AOT.

You can find the same in Training list category pdf. ( It is mentioned as accounting ( DCS-3years)).

You have to apply very fast. Don't worry friend. Don't go for consultancy. they will make it delayed. Go by your self. it wil be within 10 days. There is still time to fill the quota. Here, we all are here to help you. Just gather all the docs, fill the application and send to them ASAP.

There is the probability to implement the training wise cap in near future. then it will be again very tough.

Good Luck...

[nevillek]

You have to apply very fast. Don't worry friend. Don't go for consultancy.

But I just paid them a hefty amount last week   Now what?  

[hec006]

But I just paid them a hefty amount last week   Now what?  

As you have paid the fees, they will not return the fees most probably. You can try from your side. Otherwise, You have to go with them. But, try to followup to them to make it ASAP.

[angeleye]

yes lirjan, i think its your AOR. what else does it states?

[nevillek]

Guys, did you submit NOTARIZED copies of docs or CERTIFIED TRUE COPIES?

[hec006]

Guys, did you submit NOTARIZED copies of docs or CERTIFIED TRUE COPIES?

You can notorize your document or give your self declaration that these are true copies, or you can attested the document by the issuing authority ( such as attest the exam result by the univesity in a sealed envelop etc.)

Recoomended: Notorize the docs as it is valid, cost and time efective

[Umer Shahzad]

Hello,

in which group masters in Strategic business management lies ?

[chandrock]

Hello All,

I am newbie to this forum. I have been preparing to submit my QSW application for the past couple of weeks. Surprised by the announcement of Quebec government, I am bit confused now regarding the Group1/2/3 classification. My education and work experience is as below:

BE (Mechanical Engineering-4 yr program) with 5 years of technical experience - Past experience
PGPM (Marketing-1 yr program) with 3 years Sales/BD experience - Present Job

I am confused that to which group i should apply group 1 or group2 ? I believe my BE degree will put me in Group 1 but i finished the degree 8 years ago, my PGPM will put me in group 2 which is did it 3 years ago.. Or should i claim points for both groups..

I would be grateful, if some senior members of this forum could help me out. Thanks in advance

Chandru

[hec006]

Hello,

in which group masters in Strategic business management lies ?

Hello Umar,

Is your master in strategic business management is 2 year degree? what is your bachelor degree? when the degrees are completed? Do u have experience in which area in last 5 years?

[hec006]

Hello All,

I am newbie to this forum. I have been preparing to submit my QSW application for the past couple of weeks. Surprised by the announcement of Quebec government, I am bit confused now regarding the Group1/2/3 classification. My education and work experience is as below:

BE (Mechanical Engineering-4 yr program) with 5 years of technical experience - Past experience
PGPM (Marketing-1 yr program) with 3 years Sales/BD experience - Present Job

I am confused that to which group i should apply group 1 or group2 ? I believe my BE degree will put me in Group 1 but i finished the degree 8 years ago, my PGPM will put me in group 2 which is did it 3 years ago.. Or should i claim points for both groups..

I would be grateful, if some senior members of this forum could help me out. Thanks in advance

Chandru

Is your PGPM ( Marketing) a part time or full time program?

B.E(2004) + 5 year = 2009 + 3year( Sales exp)= 2012...

B.E(Mechanical) is in Group 2 - AOT-6 points unless u have the degree from Quebec. and under cap system

[Janki]

but  they  never  give 12 point (AOT) on 3 years  Bachelor  degree (total 15  years) and will  give zero  point for  AOT ,  we have will to show  3 years  +1 year Master  or equivalent 16 years of education.  beacuse  my  NOC is 2112 as well .

regards

AA

So do anyone got rejection just to 15 year of study? Because in Ahmedabad all agents tell that they have sucessfuly sent bsc students of India with 15 years of study only.

[skogutem]

Recent Changes to Quebec Immigration: A Summary

March, 2012

On 21 March 2012, the Quebec Ministry of Immigration and Cultural Communities (MICC) issued a statement outlining new policies for Permanent Residency (PR) immigration to Quebec through the Quebec Skilled Worker Program (QSW). These new policies took effect retroactively on 20 March 2012, and will dictate what applications Quebec will accept for the upcoming fiscal year, which stretches until 31 March 2013.Potential applicants to the QSW program are now divided into three groups based on their “areas of training”, or fields of study, as well as additional selection criteria. The groups are determined as follows:
Group 1
Applicants fall into Group 1 if they fulfill one or more of seven criteria. An unlimited number of applications from Group 1 will be accepted for processing by Quebec Immigration. The following individuals are eligible to apply:
1. Temporary workers currently residing in Quebec
2. Students who have obtained, or are about to obtain, a diploma awarded by a Quebec institution
3. Young people in Quebec on a youth exchange program subject to an international agreement, such as the Working Holiday Program, who are working full time in Quebec
4. Applicants residing in and submitting an application to Quebec who were formerly Canadian citizens
5. Applicants who have already been informed by Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) that they are admissible for PR processing.
6. Applicants, or their spouses, who hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training (field of study)which allows them to receive 12 or 16 points on the province's selection grid
• The diploma must be obtained less than five years before the date of application, or the applicant must have practiced in this field on a full-time basis for at least one of five years preceding the date of application.
• Areas of training may receive different points depending on whether the degree was obtained inside or outside of Quebec.
7. Applicants with a validated offer of employment from a Quebec employer
Group 2
A maximum number of 14,300 applications will be accepted between 21 March 2012 and 31 March 2013 in this category. Applicants will be classified into Group 2 if they fall under one of the following two situations:
1. Applicants, or their spouses, who hold a diploma awarded by a teaching institution in an area of training which allows them to receive 6 points under the province's selection grid may apply under Group 2.
• The diploma must be obtained less than five years before the date of application, or the applicant must have practiced in this field on a full-time basis for at least one of five years preceding the date of application.
• Areas of training may receive different points depending on whether the degree was obtained inside or outside of Quebec.
2. Applicants, or their spouses, who hold or are currently pursuing a Quebec diploma or the equivalent outside of Quebec. This could apply to holders of other Canadian diplomas, or individuals who hold foreign diplomas in a regulated trade or profession who have already received authorization to practice this trade in Quebec.
• As above, the diploma must be obtained less than five years before the date of application, or the applicant must have practiced in this field on a full-time basis for at least one of five years preceding the date of application.
Group 3
Potential applicants who do not fall under Groups 1 and 2 fall under Group 3. This year, no applications from Group 3 will be accepted for processing.
Processing fees for the primary applicant under the QSW will be raised on 1 April 2012 from $406 to $750.
Additional Changes
Additional changes have also been made to Quebec Business Class applications. For the Quebec Immigrant Investor program, a maximum of 2,700 applications will be received up until 31 March. For Quebec Entrepreneurs and Quebec Self-Employed candidates, a maximum of 215 will be accepted.
Quebec Government Rationale
The primary reason for enacting the above measures is so that Quebec immigration can reduce its current backlog of applications, and better serve those applicants who do get processed. In recent years, the number of applications has risen dramatically, from around 30,000 in 2008 to over 65,000 in 2011. Because of this huge increase, processing times have risen, and can now take more than 2 years for some categories of permanent residency. The Quebec government believes that taking such time to produce a decision on a subject that will so greatly affect the lives of applicants and their families must be addressed.
“I understand that Quebec is taking steps to better serve the needs of both the province and its future residents,” says Attorney David Cohen. “Given the new system, especially with regard to Group 2 applicants, I encourage those who are eligible and committed to immigrating to Quebec to submit quickly to ensure their place in the processing queue”.
The government hopes that by narrowing the selection criteria of the QSW program, the province will be able to more readily choose immigrants that will satisfy it's economic and labour market needs. It anticipates that it will be able to stabilize the amount of applications processed in the next three years to 50,000 a year, with the hope that a greater percentage of those reviewed will be admitted to the province in a timely manner, and that that refusals will be diminished.
It is important to note that these changes have been announced specifically for the upcoming year, and may or may not persist after March 2013. Regardless, it is crucial that potential immigrants to Quebec are aware of their possible changes in eligibility, and take steps accordingly to address any changes that arise on both the regional and federal levels.

 

[kimi_kaur]

Special Edition: Canadian Government Slashes Backlog
MARCH, 2012
BREAKING NEWS
 
The Government of Canada announced on 29 March 2012 a plan to reduce the backlog of Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications by returning all applications and government fees submitted prior to 27 February 2008. This will amount to a total of almost 300,000 returned applications, as well as approximately $130 million in refunded government processing fees.
Approximately 160,000 FSW applications, submitted after 28 February 2008, will remain in queue for processing.
The Announcement
This statement has been issued as part of the larger Federal Budget for 2012, which was released on 29 March. The budget includes information for reducing national deficit and creating more fiscally efficient government infrastructure, an integral part of which is tied to immigration policy and processing times. As part of this plan, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC), is expected to reduce its operating costs by $179 million over the next three years.
The budget mentions that “Canada risks losing the global talent competition for the world's best and brightest as potential immigrants choose to take their skills to other countries with more responsive immigration systems rather than remain in the queue to have their applications process in Canada”.
With this in mind, the decision was reached to not only return the approximately 300,000 applications, but to focus on creating a system that would streamline processing and “reduce duplication and overlap” in the overall structure.
Government Rationale
The applications being returned are currently only from the FSW program. No additional plans have yet been announced to address backlogs in other immigration categories.
CIC hopes that reducing application numbers will allow it to streamline its programs in a way that will eliminate overhead costs currently incurred by dealing with the backlog. For instance, some visa offices devote significant amounts of time and money to processing pre-2008 applications. With these out of the way, visa officers will be free to devote time and energy to processing applications that have a higher likelihood of approval under current government standards.
The decision is also part of a larger effort by CIC to “transition to a faster and more flexible economic immigration system”. This new system will be aimed at more accurately addressing Canadian labour market needs as well as better serving those applicants still in line to be processed. Currently, Canada is facing severe labour shortages, specifically in Western provinces where skilled tradespeople are in great demand.
It is important to note that, despite widespread austerity measures being imposed on most government departments, CIC is one of only five that are being asked to reduce operating costs by less than six percent. In fact, proposed upgrades to the Canadian immigration system are likely to cost over $25 million in upcoming years.
Advice for Returned Applicants
The promise of new, streamlined immigration systems is no comfort for the thousands of individuals and their families who have now seen their hopes for Canadian immigration come to an end.
“This is such awful news for the people who have been waiting patiently in line,” says Attorney David Cohen, “Of course, they are free to submit a new application, but that will be of little solace at this time. I truly feel badly for them”.
Applicants who will see their files returned but are still keen to come to Canada are by no means excluded from re-submitting an application, either through the FSW program or one of the over 60 other available Canadian immigration programs. As the government more thoroughly outlines its plans for immigration in the future, prospective applicants should make sure to keep abreast of new developments that may be of benefit to themselves and their unique skill sets.
see how tough they are being in handling backlog for federal applications of skilled workers...really painful for those who has been waiting for PR for so many years......................