QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[mkshah]

Hello friends,
Finally after waiting for 80 days i got a letter from BIQ HK that my file is opened hey bachar, I told u so... That u will get ur AOR within a week or two.. congrats buddy for rcving AOR..
Thank you all for support
but the big important question is "What next??"
what to do now? answer to this big and important question is "wait for ur turn for ur file getting assessed by immigration officer and send a decision on ur application" till that time work on ur language skills.

[Bachar]

Hello mkshah,
thank you my friend
plz tell me more about "file getting assessed by immigration officer and send a decision on ur application"
I thought that they have already assessed it, do you mean that my file might be refused later?

[xse2573]

 @   Xse2573

The MICC has implemented a system of priority processing of skilled worker applications to be carried out in the following order: 1. Validated employment offer; 2. Preferred areas of training (applicant, spouse or a de factor spouse); 3. Others.

Therefore it is likely your friend will be in the next batch if the Visa Office have further concerns or the interview could be waived altogether...

 @  Bajan4Quebec
Thanks for your prompt info...so he still stand a chance to have a waived interview? A waived interview is as a result of what?..And having an interview is also as a result of what sisutation?

Thanks

[pedi123]

Hi all,

I'd applied for Quebec immigration as skilled worker and have just received my permanent resident visa. I've got a question about the process of landing in Montréal with my visa and CSQ.

As I'm still working here in Switzerland and have quite some stuff to do before moving to Canada, I'm planning to land in Quebec late summer, stay there for just a week (can't stay more due to work issues), and then return to Switzerland. My ultimate move to Canada might be delayed one or even two years after I land. So my questions are:

- Is there any chance that I receive the PR card within one week? If not, would it be possible (and safe!) that a friend of mine (whom his address I give to the officer for mailing the PR card) send it to me by post after it has arrived, or should I sign something there in person?

- Are there any other formalities that I should do (or I better do!) there before leaving Canada, knowing that I might be back in 1-2 years? (e.g., do I already have to apply for SIN, register at some places, open a bank account, change driver's license, etc?!)

- Do I have to pay any sort of taxes/fees during the 1-2 years while I've not yet moved to Canada?

- Finally, would it suffice to show a bank statement of my Swiss bank account at arrival as the proof of funds? I'm not planning to take any large amounts of cash...

Thanks a lot for your helps!

[mkshah]

 @  bachar,
Pls read below post for list of decisions.
once ur file receives its turn for review by IO, you will be notified for any of these decisions. So now waiting game is started once u recieve ur AOR.

4.2.3.1 Acceptance
 If the candidate satisfies the statutory conditions, the past file to the step of the selection; the letter PERM 111 (selection on file), PERM 121 (summoning to theinterview) or PERM 124 (interview expectation) is sent to the candidate, according to the position that applies to the latter (TO SEE GPI 3-2, SECTIONS4.4.1 and 4.4.2). For the candidates possessors of an offer of validated job, see thesection 5.5.1.1 of this chapter (SEE GPI 3-1, SECTION 5.5.1.1).

4.2.3.2 Intention of refusal and refusal
 If the candidate does not reply to the statutory conditions, the letter PERM 401(refusal intention to the preliminary examination) is sent him, accompanied cardof evaluation (FEVAL). The candidate has access to 60 days following the sending for there to reply. If the candidate gives after this letter and that his request nevertheless must be refused, a letter PERM 401A (refusal to the preliminary examination) is transmitted him, if need be,accompanied FEVAL. If the candidate does not give after the letter of intention of refusal, his request is refused to the expiration of the 60 days, without other notice.The code of the formation of the requiring principal and of his spouse must appear on the FEVAL of the candidate. Notice: - Is designated, by way of principal require, the person of which the position is the most advantageous one to the look of the granting of the foreseen points to the Regulation on the pondération, at the time of the assessment of a request presented by a couple. Thus, when a candidate accompanied of a spouseor fact spouse does not qualify itself to the preliminary examination, it there placeto verify if the spouse or de-facto spouse eventually could satisfy the passage thresholds. The counselor to the immigration examines the luck of the spouse to qualify itself as principal requiring and transmits, to the need, the letter PERM115 (lacking document) in order to complete the evaluation. If the examination isconclusive, the counselor opens a new file in the computer system and follows theevaluation according to the habitual procedure. If the spouse cannot qualifyhimself as principal requiring, the counselor indicates on the FEVAL that this option was envisioned but that the spouse replies to the requirements to beselected by way of principal require.- Exceptionally, a candidate that does not satisfy the requirements of the preliminary examination can be accepted to this step if the official judges that the gate does not reflect the capacities of the latter to establish itself with success or that it seems to present a position of humanitarian distress. The proceduresrelating to the usage of the discretionary strength of the minister (item 40 of the RSRE) are treated to the chapter 5 of the composing 3 (TO SEE GPI 3-5).

4.2.3.3 Intention of rejection and rejection
 When the official to the immigration has reasonable motives to doubt theauthenticity of the documents or trueness of the presented pieces of information to the support of the request of immigration, it informs the proof and towards to theimmigration file the pieces of information and documents require. If the proof is sufficient, the prepared official the letter PERM 400 (rejection intention) in whichit specifies the pieces of information or the document of which the trueness or theauthenticity was not proved in a satisfactory way. The candidate has access to 60 days, from the date back to reception of the letter of intention of rejection, totransmit its observations and any allowing document to review the decision,without what his request will be rejected, to which one case, the rejection of his request is confirmed by the letter PERM 399A (rejection letter), signed by theresponsible administrator, and an administrative penalty applies, preventing itfrom deposit a new request during the five subsequent years, by virtue of the item 3.2.2.1 Law. If the official to the immigration considers that the proof must becompleted, it can summon the candidate in interview, if this one attains the passage threshold require.

4.2.3.4 Suspense
It can happen that the official to the immigration cannot return adecision, notably when arises one of the following positions:- The payable expenses were not paid completely;- pieces of information, explanations or additional documents are required;- additional verifications are necessary. In the latter case, the official to theimmigration can, after approval of his administrator, ask an examination by theService of the security and investigations (SSE) or resort to to the expertise of intervening others. In the cases where the official to the immigration mustsuspend the treatment of a request, it records this advancement state in thecomputer system and puts back to the candidate the letter that applies to his position.

4,3 Steps of the selection
 
4.3.1 Objectives to the step of the selection
 THE step of the selection has for function to complete the process of startedevaluation to the step of the preliminary examination and to determine if thecandidate is in a position to satisfy the passage threshold to the gate. The decisionto the step of the selection can be taken in interview of selection or on file.

4.3.1.1 selection Interview
By virtue of the item 8 of the RSRE, the candidate worker qualified must be summoned in selection interview if it satisfies the passage threshold to the preliminary examination without nevertheless to satisfy the passage threshold in selection. To summon a candidate in interview, the official to the immigration transmits him the letter PERM 121 (summoning to theselection interview).The selection interview has for principal functions:- The verification or updated it carried out evaluation to the step of the preliminaryexamination;- the targeted evaluation of one or more factors of selection to assure itself trueness of the pieces of information furnish and authenticity of the presented documents to the support of the request. In interview, the counselor to the immigration can question the candidate, examine the original documents and judge validité of the pieces of information while taking account of the other motives that allow doubting or not of the validité of the document or trueness of the pieces of information. To the need, it will equally be able to ask additional documents relying on the candidate the letter PERM 115 (lacking document). Shealso can serve to: - The information transmission to the candidate (individualcounselling) to the look of his project of specific immigration and of its individual and socio-professional characteristics - the revision or the signature, if this already is not done, Contract relating to the capacity of financial autonomy, just like the piece of information transmission on the reach of the contract and on the real costs of establishment to the Quebec. The official to the immigration will have to assure itself that the candidate possesses a copy of the signed contract or to put back some for him and if the contract is signed at the time of the interview. The official will equally have to recall to the candidate to have in his possession hiscopy of the contract to his arrival to the Quebec. In any case, the candidate must present himself to the interview with the original ones of all the documents require. When the candidate is not in measure to present an original document, it must justify this non-availability and present a certified copy conforms by the transmitting institution of the document or by legal duly authorized authority, or any other certified document; the counselor will judge then validité of the document and of his admissibility. If it does not have in his possession these documents at the time of the interview, his request could be rejected or refused, in the respect of the applicable procedures.

[Bachar]

Thank you mkshah but i did not understand anything

no problem i will just study French and try to get an exam asap

[egrace62]

Hi all,

I'd applied for Quebec immigration as skilled worker and have just received my permanent resident visa. I've got a question about the process of landing in Montréal with my visa and CSQ. ( first canada is a good place right? but there is also another Angle to it. the country from which u are leaving to immigrate to canada will also determine aw attractive/good canada really is. i believe switzerland is one of the best country in the world. although u av a better picture of why u want to move to canada, but if u av a very good job in switzerland , then in my own opinion, canada might not b too fantastic for u cos of the similarity in economic strngth, political might etc btw those two countries and what is more, u will av to basiccally start form scratch in canada. so unless u are ready to face all these without complaining,ur experience might not b recognised, and unless ur french is really good, stellar jobs can just be a mirage. then it might not b a too fantastic move.it is most favorable to those from a developing country/those who naturally will av to pass 2ru the eyes of a needle to get any type of canadian visa be it student visa, temporary visa, etc not to talk of a PRV. just my little observation though... by the way doesnt Switzerland av free entry to canada?
As I'm still working here in Switzerland and have quite some stuff to do before moving to Canada, I'm planning to land in Quebec late summer, stay there for just a week (can't stay more due to work issues), and then return to Switzerland. My ultimate move to Canada might be delayed one or even two years after I land. So my questions are: all permanent residents av residency requirements that they must fullfil else they lose their permanent residency.the moment u land, they ll begin to measure u against those requirements.u will b asked if u will be travelling b4 u get ur PR card, so in ur case u will be issued a pass allowing u to travel. that is all abt that that i knw. cos i was asked if i will b travelling back too at the airport

- Is there any chance that I receive the PR card within one week? at least for now, it is not possible to get PR card in a week If not, would it be possible (and safe!) that a friend of mine (whom his address I give to the officer for mailing the PR card) send it to me by post after it has arrived, or should I sign something there in person? asking a friend to send it to u is at ur own risk. and the service canada guys dare not hear abt it. so u keep it to urself and if it has bad consequences, u also keep it to ur self

- Are there any other formalities that I should do (or I better do!) there before leaving Canada, knowing that I might be back in 1-2 years? (e.g., do I already have to apply for SIN, register at some places, open a bank account, change driver's license, etc?!) what is the point in changing dirivers lincence when u wont even b around to attend ur appointment with the SAAQ responsible for linsence. cos there are several pple, u might need to wait 2months to get an appointment... as for SIN card, well the choice is all urs, but be warned, i dentity theft is real, am sure u knw what the SIN card means. enthrusting it to someone is very risky.. but the choice is all urs

- Do I have to pay any sort of taxes/fees during the 1-2 years while I've not yet moved to Canada? as a PR, u only pay tax on all wages within canada  only canadian citizens pays worldwide tax. such that they will av to pay tax on any investment or earning they av anywhere in the world

- Finally, would it suffice to show a bank statement of my Swiss bank account at arrival as the proof of funds? I'm not planning to take any large amounts of cash... well, i think those guys at the airport are less concerned abt the financial thing.. they only ask aw much are u bringing in. they wont even ask to see it

Thanks a lot for your helps! count the cost wwell before taking the leap

[darshmodi]

dear Egrace,M K Shah

I am so much confused with my points so pls throw some light on it

i did B.com from Gujarat University(India) in May-99 and  and secondly after that i have more than 5 years experience in managerial grade so how many points i will be getting for Degree and AOT?

Pls reply

[cvd222]

I wonder how the processing times will change now that we have to submit our application for the federal part to the CIO in Sydney, Nova Scotia. I know that for FSW, it should help make it quicker. However, is it the same for QSW? Will submitting it to the CIO make it longer? Hmm.

[caribgrl55]

Hi all, just an update that I landed in Montreal on Jan 17. All processes at the airport went very smoothly and quickly (about 45 minutes). I believe there was only 1 other person who landed at about the same time as me, which is why it went so quickly. The immigration officer did ask me about POF and if any of my status changed (married, criminal etc).

I did the following in the same order: Applied for my SIN, opened a bank account, applied for my health card, all while job hunting. Had an interview yesterday for a call center job which I got and start on Monday. Not the ideal job, but something for now.

Weather is very cold, but once you dress well enough, it's not unbearable. You have to ensure that your extremities are warm (hands, feel, head), because that makes a big difference in how you feel.

The language you hear the most here is French, then English, then lots of other languages from around the world. Most people who deal with customers are bilingual (French and English). Use the time while you wait for your PR approval to improve your French, as this will give you a jump start once you get here.

[hec006]

hello my friend

No my dear as per the Quebec immigration guide you don't need to have practised your degree if it is obtained within last 5 years of your application to get the AOT point.

They have given me that 4 points of experience because my 9 months of professional experience was coming in 5 years preceding my application, so this work experience was after a 1 year certificate course in human resources management.

Hello quebec2011,

mkshah is correct here. I am also not sure. Your case is quite confusing. But, it looks like that you have not received points because your profession is before your degree. Even though they give points for your area of training, if the degree is completed within 5 years, but in GPI it is mentioned the following,

Pour se voir attribuer des points au critère Domaine de formation, le candidat doit détenir un diplôme « terminal » conduisant directement à l'exercice d'une profession.


To be awarded points for the test area of ​​training, the candidate must have a degree "terminal" leading directly to the practice of a profession.

That's why you have not received points or AOT. your profession should start after your degree. Even though, AOT is separated from profession, but they want to assume AOT and Professional experience( may be in domain diferent from degree) is intact.

Your one year certificate course will not help you to give points for Area of training. This is mentioned in GPI...

[Le diplôme étranger qui correspond, au Québec, à un diplôme universitaire de 1er cycle sanctionnant 1 an d'études à temps plein ne peut être évalué en vertu du critère Domaine de formation, car il se compare à un diplôme d'études postsecondaires générales (avec concentration) (VOIR GPI 3-1, SECTION 3.3.1.1). Il en est de même pour le diplôme correspondant à un diplôme universitaire de 1er cycle sanctionnant 2 ans d'études à temps plein, sauf s'il s'agit d'un diplôme étranger qui s'apparente à un DEC technique de 3 ans (voir la section Remarques sur l'évaluation des diplômes étrangers).]

[The corresponding foreign degree, in Quebec, a university first degree attesting to 1 year of full-time studies can not be assessed under the test area of ​​training, as it compares to a general post-secondary education (with concentration) (SEE GPI 3-1, Section 3.3.1.1). It is the same for the degree corresponding to a first university degree attesting to 2 years of full-time student, except a foreign degree akin to a technical diploma 3 years ( See Notes on evaluation of foreign credentials).]


Hence, for example you have completed B.Com in 2004-2007. You have exp in from 2007-2008. You have completed M.COM in 2008-2010. You have applied to Quebec immigration in 2010. You will get points for your master degree and you will get points for your area of training because you have the professional experience in 2007-2008 that is after your degree B.COM( which is area of training list). That means, your exp after your listed area of training will help you to get points in AOT. May be your exp related to your work or completed within 5 years, whichever is valid. That means , in this case your AOT points will be calculated solely on the basis B.COM, and not M.COM.

You have got points for your exp, because they give points for exp, if it is within last 5 years, may be or may not be directly after your listed area of training degree. This is not true for AOT marks.

Hope this helps.

[OsamaR]

call center agents earn a minimum of 10$ per hour for english speakers... but for the bilingual pple, they earn a minimum of 12$ per hour depending on the company.... bank call center agents pays a minimum of 15$ per hour while some credit card coy pays. Telecoms call center agent in bell earns 14.5$/hr starting wage, FIDO/ Rogers earns 15.5$/hrs, TELUS earns 19-22$/hr depending on the project. 99% of the call centres runs 24/7 365days a year
as per the cold, we av got no choice, we keep decking ourselves with thick clothes... actually minus 17 as i write .

  @   CARRO, i knw u will get something from them soon

THANKS A lot egrace62 for providing such useful information

[cvd222]

I am very confused about the validity period of police certificates. Why does it say in the Document Checklist for Quebec-Selected Workers, under item 14 (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5690E.pdf) that "police certificates are generally considered to be valid for one year from date of issue; therefore, depending on the processing time of your application, you may be requested to submit new certificates"
BUT on this page (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp) it says "The certificate must have been issued no more than three months before you submit your application."

Does it mean that I have to make sure that the police certificate has been issued no more than 3 months when I submit my application... but if the application process takes longer than a year, then they would have to ask me for a new one?

What if I submitted the application on February 10 but the police certificate was issued on November 5 (therefore the 3rd month would be February 5), would they still accept it?

[quebec2011]

Hello quebec2011,

mkshah is correct here. I am also not sure. Your case is quite confusing. But, it looks like that you have not received points because your profession is before your degree. Even though they give points for your area of training, if the degree is completed within 5 years, but in GPI it is mentioned the following,

Pour se voir attribuer des points au critère Domaine de formation, le candidat doit détenir un diplôme « terminal » conduisant directement à l'exercice d'une profession.


To be awarded points for the test area of ​​training, the candidate must have a degree "terminal" leading directly to the practice of a profession.

That's why you have not received points or AOT. your profession should start after your degree. Even though, AOT is separated from profession, but they want to assume AOT and Professional experience( may be in domain diferent from degree) is intact.

Your one year certificate course will not help you to give points for Area of training. This is mentioned in GPI...

[Le diplôme étranger qui correspond, au Québec, à un diplôme universitaire de 1er cycle sanctionnant 1 an d'études à temps plein ne peut être évalué en vertu du critère Domaine de formation, car il se compare à un diplôme d'études postsecondaires générales (avec concentration) (VOIR GPI 3-1, SECTION 3.3.1.1). Il en est de même pour le diplôme correspondant à un diplôme universitaire de 1er cycle sanctionnant 2 ans d'études à temps plein, sauf s'il s'agit d'un diplôme étranger qui s'apparente à un DEC technique de 3 ans (voir la section Remarques sur l'évaluation des diplômes étrangers).]

[The corresponding foreign degree, in Quebec, a university first degree attesting to 1 year of full-time studies can not be assessed under the test area of ​​training, as it compares to a general post-secondary education (with concentration) (SEE GPI 3-1, Section 3.3.1.1). It is the same for the degree corresponding to a first university degree attesting to 2 years of full-time student, except a foreign degree akin to a technical diploma 3 years ( See Notes on evaluation of foreign credentials).]


Hence, for example you have completed B.Com in 2004-2007. You have exp in from 2007-2008. You have completed M.COM in 2008-2010. You have applied to Quebec immigration in 2010. You will get points for your master degree and you will get points for your area of training because you have the professional experience in 2007-2008 that is after your degree B.COM( which is area of training list). That means, your exp after your listed area of training will help you to get points in AOT. May be your exp related to your work or completed within 5 years, whichever is valid. That means , in this case your AOT points will be calculated solely on the basis B.COM, and not M.COM.

You have got points for your exp, because they give points for exp, if it is within last 5 years, may be or may not be directly after your listed area of training degree. This is not true for AOT marks.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your detailed explanation and I really appreciate your effort for writing such a wonderful answer.

In fact this issue is confusing me either. But thankfully when I filed my application I had joint a company and I was working there for about 2 months so now It has been 17 months that I am still working there so hopefully this time I mean after Appeal they will give me the AOT point as I am practising my degree. Next week I am sending my appeal and I Pray that everything go smoothly.

Thank you .

[hec006]

Thank you for your detailed explanation and I really appreciate your effort for writing such a wonderful answer.

In fact this issue is confusing me either. But thankfully when I filed my application I had joint a company and I was working there for about 2 months so now It has been 17 months that I am still working there so hopefully this time I mean after Appeal they will give me the AOT point as I am practising my degree. Next week I am sending my appeal and I Pray that everything go smoothly.

Thank you .

Yes, Please do appeal. yes, now they will give you the points for AOT, because 17months after your degree will give you the points. and also appeal for French marks calculation according to new rule. let me know the their answer.

best of luck !!!