QORAX, PMM and other seniors......please advise me abt appeal

[uni]

Dear Qorax, pmm...

Need ur help..

I applied under NOC 4131 (Instructor in Private training institute) in January 2010.. I received 1st AOR in the month of March and then second AOR on 20th April 2010..

After 8months of sending all socs to Canadian High Commision New Delhi..suddenly without any verification call, i received rejection letter on 16th December stating the reason of refusal:" YOU have not satisfied me that (Name of my institution) is a govt accredited institution.. Processing fees that u have paid is refundable. u will re'v cheque within 8-12 weeks."


I have total 7years of teaching experience in my own institute. I sent all related docs like reference letters from my past students, Business registration certificate, tax bills, Bank accounts etc. etc...One of my friend got FSW visa on showing such experience in his own institute. how could it possible to have government accredition (and if so, My business registration by local Municipal corporation is not a proof?)

I am planning to appeal in Immi Tribunal against thiss bogus refusal reason..as this NOC is no more, i can not reapply..will you please guide me how to appeal

Please please provide your valuable suggestions...

Thanks in advance,

Regards,
Uni

[maran1976]

Instead of appealing, did you try to send a letter to the Visa Officer saying  NOC 4131  mentions

This unit group also includes trainers who are employed by private training establishments, companies, community agencies and governments to deliver internal training or development courses.

Quote the above and request them to look into the 'error' . Write a firm but polite letter. For some it has worked !

Again furnish your company registration details, annual reports etc. Also mention that a private institute not necessarily offers a university or college program, hence goverment accredition is not mandatory.

Btw, when you provided your current reference letter that included you duties, salaries etc...who signed it ? I hope it was not yourself !!

[aman_preetd]

hi..
i m also agree with maran1976...... i m facing almost same type of problem... please go ahead and hope for best

[toenjoy]

Dear Qorax, pmm...

Need ur help..

I applied under NOC 4131 (Instructor in Private training institute) in January 2010.. I received 1st AOR in the month of March and then second AOR on 20th April 2010..

After 8months of sending all socs to Canadian High Commision New Delhi..suddenly without any verification call, i received rejection letter on 16th December stating the reason of refusal:" YOU have not satisfied me that (Name of my institution) is a govt accredited institution.. Processing fees that u have paid is refundable. u will re'v cheque within 8-12 weeks."


I have total 7years of teaching experience in my own institute. I sent all related docs like reference letters from my past students, Business registration certificate, tax bills, Bank accounts etc. etc...One of my friend got FSW visa on showing such experience in his own institute. how could it possible to have government accredition (and if so, My business registration by local Municipal corporation is not a proof?)

I am planning to appeal in Immi Tribunal against thiss bogus refusal reason..as this NOC is no more, i can not reapply..will you please guide me how to appeal

Please please provide your valuable suggestions...

Thanks in advance,

Regards,
Uni

Actually you can write a letter address to Program Manager Immigration Section New delhi. he is the only person can reopen your closed file if he convenienced by your letter along with supporting proof.

if you are genuine you will get medicals.. I have 4such cases who got rejected and finally got medicals after appleal to Program Manager.


Most important is wording in that letter. you have to tell visa officer mistakes in a very gentle ways.

DOn't send only letter send all supporting docsagain to prove your point.

Use highlighter to highlight main pointsinyoursupporting docs.

[aman_preetd]

hi toenjoy,
  i write a letter to new delhi regarding my case 6 months ago and also send them a remainder letter... but still waiting... now what to do..
  thanx

[qorax]

Dear Qorax.....

Need ur help..

I applied under NOC 4131 (Instructor in Private training institute) in January 2010.. I received 1st AOR in the month of March and then second AOR on 20th April 2010..

After 8months of sending all socs to Canadian High Commision New Delhi..suddenly without any verification call, i received rejection letter on 16th December stating the reason of refusal:" YOU have not satisfied me that (Name of my institution) is a govt accredited institution.. Processing fees that u have paid is refundable. u will re'v cheque within 8-12 weeks."

I have total 7years of teaching experience in my own institute. I sent all related docs like reference letters from my past students, Business registration certificate, tax bills, Bank accounts etc. etc...One of my friend got FSW visa on showing such experience in his own institute. how could it possible to have government accredition (and if so, My business registration by local Municipal corporation is not a proof?Huh)

I am planning to appeal in Immi Tribunal against thiss bogus refusal reason..as this NOC is no more, i can not reapply..will you please guide me how to appeal

Please please provide your valuable suggestions...

Thanks in advance,

Regards,
Uni

Hi,

Actually the bone of contention here is in the line, "I have total 7years of teaching experience in my own institute".

Self-employed experience is NOT CONSIDERED against your "qualifying experience" by CIC. This is b'coz anything & everything could be written as JD by the applicant & confirmatory signatures could be obtained from his own employees.

Such cases r supposed to be filed under BC (Business Class) stream.

The wise way to handle such situation is to go ahead as a paid employee of a non-family org. The owenership should not be linked to u. If u did that - then u can write a letter to your VO to 'reconsider' your case. But, under no way the CHC should be able to confirm that (read verification calls to someone in your org, wherein s/he spills the beans).

However, if the same is confirmed - u stand rejection. The grounds depicted by the VO could be anything.

Pls relook at your situation. If u r confident, then write to your VO, with repeat supporting docs, to reopen your file. B'coz, working in "Pvt. Trg. Institutions" is permitted. The org doesn't need to be affilliated to a Govtl. Trg. body. There could be an "error" by the VO (unless your linkage to your org. was proved).

Good luck!

Qorax
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This is in response to your PM.

[uni]

Hi,

Actually the bone of contention here is in the line, "I have total 7years of teaching experience in my own institute".

Self-employed experience is NOT CONSIDERED against your "qualifying experience" by CIC. This is b'coz anything & everything could be written as JD by the applicant & confirmatory signatures could be obtained from his own employees.

Such cases r supposed to be filed under BC (Business Class) stream.

The wise way to handle such situation is to go ahead as a paid employee of a non-family org. The owenership should not be linked to u. If u did that - then u can write a letter to your VO to 'reconsider' your case. But, under no way the CHC should be able to confirm that (read verification calls to someone in your org, wherein s/he spills the beans).

However, if the same is confirmed - u stand rejection. The grounds depicted by the VO could be anything.

Pls relook at your situation. If u r confident, then write to your VO, with repeat supporting docs, to reopen your file. B'coz, working in "Pvt. Trg. Institutions" is permitted. The org doesn't need to be affilliated to a Govtl. Trg. body. There could be an "error" by the VO (unless your linkage to your org. was proved).

Good luck!

Qorax
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This is in response to your PM.

Dear Qorax,

Thanks for your valuable advice..

Uni

[toenjoy]

hi toenjoy,
  i write a letter to new delhi regarding my case 6 months ago and also send them a remainder letter... but still waiting... now what to do..
  thanx

Dear Aman Preet,

to whom you address your letter.Program Manager or Visa Officer.you have to address Program Manager and copy to same letter to Visa Officer.

[aman_preetd]

 hi,
 i address my letter addressed  to immigration section office.....

[toenjoy]

Dear Aman Preet,


Write letter once again  address to Program Manager Immigration Section New delhi and also CC same letter to visa officer also.

you will get reply ........

[shibuya]

Uni,
     Capt Qorax has given u the best answer. Just follow his comments.

Regards,
Shibuya

[anil_india]

UNI

i dont know much abt the intricacies.

regardless of this Result from VO, and all sorts of thots surfacing ur mind....
a Request letter with support dox, can still do wonders.

u hv nothing to loose if u do that.

God forbid, if u still dont get wat u want, then think abt the Immi. Tribunal option.

all the very best !