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« Reply #4905 on: November 21, 2009, 01:18:51 am »


Dear all specially who r living in Canada :

what sort of benefit Canadian Govt. is giving to immigrant? I listen education is free and Govt give fix amount to every child, is this true..

Regards

Aleem

me too is curious about the same.Thanks GOd u asked the question.let's see if someone got the answer to this query...
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« Reply #4906 on: November 21, 2009, 02:58:50 am »

Come on' people,

Why were you migrating if you didn't know the benefits? You are entitled to;

1. Free education from day-1 for all children up to high school level. (Govt High School type and not the elite private schools!) You pay hefty amount in college fees. Most local Goras therefore opt NOT TO GRADUATE.
2. Children allowance starting from birth till 18 (?) years age. Normally it is more ($450) in the beginning and gradually reduces ($150) in the end. (THIS IS ONE GOOD POINT WHERE PARENTS USE THE MONEY ON FAMILY AND WHEN IT COMES TO COLLEGE EDUCATION, A CHILD CANNOT PAY HEFTY FEES OR IS FORCED TO TAKE STUDENT LOANS WHICH HE KEEPS REPAYING THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE).
3. Jobless allowance - Barely lets you survive. You have to take the job whenever and whichever is offered irrespective of your choice. You refuse two or three times, you will never be given this allowance.
4. Health Insurance - Govt pays your medical bills, provided you pay taxes. Long wait times, long queues, no choice of self medication. (Means that you cannot buy off the shelf medicine and treat yourself).
5. Child's rights - You could land in jail if your child reports abuse against you as parent on 911.
6. Child could be taken away from you if neglect.
7. Freedom for children above 18 years of age - they choose whom to live with (they call it legal and in our society it is a shame) and marry their partner, if at all they want. Parents have no rights!
8. Your Landlord can enter your house any time without your permission, with his duplicate key - legal.
9. Police can put handcuffs on you publicly even for very small misunderstanding. Of-course they take it off after they sign you in.
10. Police can enter your house without search warrant. (Sounds strange, isn't it?)

The listed sequence above does not happen with everyone, but it CAN happen to anyone. Many many more benefits which I may not recall off-hand. For peace-loving people the life is certainly good (if not prosperous). There is peace of mind, discipline, regularity and a clean life. The trick is to become like them to be treated like them!

You may have control on your children to some extend, but mark my words, the next generation would throw you out if you ever try to impose your Pakistani views or Islamic morality!!!!!!!!!!!

People please plan. Plan to obtain maximum advantage in minimum time. In my opinion, Pakistan is the land of biggest opportunities for educated and uneducated both.

Best regards and sweet dreams.




Dear all specially who r living in Canada :

what sort of benefit Canadian Govt. is giving to immigrant? I listen education is free and Govt give fix amount to every child, is this true..

Regards

Aleem

me too is curious about the same.Thanks GOd u asked the question.let's see if someone got the answer to this query...
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« Reply #4907 on: November 21, 2009, 03:36:16 am »

 @ Manj

What a blasting and truthful post , a real eye-opener

Just wanna say Job Well Done
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« Reply #4908 on: November 21, 2009, 03:45:00 am »

 @  Manj, good one Smiley
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« Reply #4909 on: November 21, 2009, 05:16:56 am »


Dear All !
There is nothing absolute in this material world. Every thing has its relative pros & cons. There are 2 tragedies in this world:
1- You longe for a thing and don't get it.
2- YOu longe for a thing and got it.
And you know which one of them is more bitter tragedy: The 2nd one.( perhaps Psychologically to a certain extent if not totally applicable to all of us.)

Its all depends on you.how you percieve life. Most of people who are dying for a thing,when got that thing, then started to see the
the negative aspects of that success and almost ignore the benefits attached with it as they take benefits as taken for granted and totally forget that once they were almost dying for that success.
Life in Pakistan is neither all +++ neither all ----- .Its is a combination of +++ & ----. Same is true for Canada.
Some peole with modest life style in Pakistan are fully contended. contrary some high achievers  in Pakistan are not happy altogether.
same would be true for Canada. Its all depends on you. What are your goals ? How you perceive logically the life in Canda and the related merits & demerits ? Your family cicumstances  ? your career progress and prospects in Pakistan & in Canada and a lots of other like factors.
So think logically and plan accordingly. Hope for the best & plan for the worst. Becuase if you don't plan you actullay plan to fail.
Keep faith in Allah. Try your best and leave the outcome on Allah.
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« Reply #4910 on: November 21, 2009, 05:44:39 am »

HI imran
did you able to get a job in canada
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« Reply #4911 on: November 21, 2009, 08:19:29 am »

guys....this is a nice read from JOSH....let me repost it....this could be an inspiration to you guys...Godbless us all...

========================================================

Hear is my story...take the time to read it, if nothing you might at
least save a few pennies and a couple of sleepless nights.

I have been a silent viewer on this forum, I have read a lot of
arguments and I appreciate the zeal of most people. The positive
approach some people have displayed in spite of all the negative and
discouraging information is really inspiring.

I have been in Canada for over 25 months now, migrated from India, to
quickly answer some of the biting questions in your head....

1, Am I doing well---Yes I am, maybe not as good as I would have liked
it but I am happy.
2, Was I doing well back in India--- Very well.
3, Am I happy to have made the switch----No doubt about that.
4, Did I have to struggle and go through hard times----- Very very hard
times, I've had to hang on by my tooth and claws.
5, Would I do it again---Damn sure I would.
BUT
6, Would I go about it in the same way that I did----NO, This post is to
help you guys avoid the same mistake that I made
and to give something back to people like me 25 months ago, I would have
NEVER been able to do it without the help of many good hearted people,
God bless em. So here is my story......

But before that I just want to mention that I have met a lot of
immigrants, some who have done well some not so well and others worse.
The common line among all the immigrants were certain qualifications and
these are a must according to me and my experience if you have to
succeed, if you don't have these qualifications then you will be putting
yourself in deep trouble.

At the risk of sounding dreadfully dull and at a horrible effort at
instigating motivation here are the qualification you need to have:

a, Determination... If you are not absolutely determined its a waste of
time.
b, Perseverance...The heart to go on in spite of all odds, never failing
to loose the strength to take another step, NEVER NEVER give up, its
your life and you cant give up on it.
c, Hard work....Try to be the best in whatever you do, don't work hard
because you have to or because you are being watched just work hard coz
you WANT to. Even if you are polishing shoes and if you are the best in
doing that you will achieve glory someday. NOT BORN TO BE A MEDIOCRE
attitude.
d, Good Heart.... A good heart to help people in need, may not just be
financially (if that is not possible) but a kind word, a passionate hug,
an encouraging line to any fellow in need. A genuine good wish and
prayer from someone thankful can even move the Heart of GOD.

So, my story then, My God, its just starting, even I am tired already.
I'll make it short.

Got my visa after a long and painful wait...Quit our jobs, my wife and
me (first mistake, will explain later) scooped up all our savings, got
our children out of school with appropriate planning so that they don't
miss out a year. Did our lil research, said our prayers and got on the
plane. Landed in Vancouver, some website told us that this was the
worlds best place to live and raise a family (mistake number two).
Checked into the hotel and began house hunting, looked at all the nice
neighbourhoods and selected a house based on our budget (third mistake)
so far so good, we thought. Put our kids to school and began the
mammoth task of job hunting ( 25-30 days and 2000 dollars down).

Me wife and me are well qualified and based on our experiences we made
absolutely wonderful resumes and started applying ( fourth mistake).
Amazing responses, calls every day but that was that, stopped at calls
after realising we don't have any Canadian qualification or experience.
We were not too worried initially but as time passed it started to get a
little uncomfortable( down by 3 months and 4000 dollars). We then
started trying to get help and advise from the locals, mixed responses,
very conflicting as everyone were from different circumstances. We then
had to downgrade our resumes (as one of the refusal feedback was that we
were over qualified) and start applying, still luck eluded us. Every
dollar spent was like fire in the belly growing hotter. Five-six months
later we were desperate and ready to take any job that was available to
us. A month later, my wife got a job and few weeks later it was my turn
to get lucky to get a job.

These were not nearly ideal jobs that we were hoping for but some income
was better than nothing. It killed me to see my wife doing data entry
who was working for ICICI bank back in India and managing a whole branch
and had won many awards for being the best run branch , just typing away
8 hours a day. I never really had the courage to ask how she felt seeing
me flip burgers when I had 120 employees working for me at Hewlett
Packard back in India.

Though both of us were earning still we were not able to make enough
money to stop digging away from our savings. The house rent, bills,
travel to & fro to work, food and the most expensive of the lot, child
minders for our kids, to pick them up from school and take care until my
wife gets back home. I was working over time, nearly 12 hours a day but
could not sustain ourselves, we then switched our plan and I took up night shift
and weekends while my wife worked in the day, I would wake up cook and
get the kids back home and put them in front of the telly and pass out
on the couch. I was ready to leave for work and would be waiting at the
door to rush out to get the train, sometimes I must admit, with wet eyes
while walking to the train station.At all time, I tried real hard to put
a brave face for my wife and my two little angels, one kiss at the door
everyday was all the interaction I had with my wife. That and kisses
from my two little angels is what kept me going.

Even though we had figured out a way to save the child minders costs we
were just making enough to live a very limited life. My children
deserved more time from us, at least from one of us. I dint want them to
grow up without that. I forced my wife to work only part time, moved to
a smaller house, took up work for 12 hours every night, 6 days a week. I
could not miss a single days work, no work no money.
 Life seemed a little better for a while, at least for my wife and kids.

When all seemed in control ( at least better than a few months ago )
another blow (forgive me for saying that but that's what it seemed like
at that time), I was hardly with my wife a few times since we started
working and she was pregnant for the second time ( we had twins the
first time)  in spite of all the caution we had taken. The irony was, we
had to try for almost a year the first time around to get pregnant.  If
that was not all, it was twins AGAIN. The odds of that happening, twins
twice, was 10 million to one or so I was told. This was about the time
when I could sense my wife giving up. I could not imagine how we could
afford the expenses of additional two babies in our present circumstances.

To cut it short, we had to go through more hardships, we had to move
again and again until we were in what one would call a single room
apartment.

Was this what we left everything and came here?
Was this the life in Canada?
How could we have been so wrong in our assessment?
Are we losers and should go back home crawling like one?

BUT WAIT NO, I thought,

If I we had the luck of having two twins which is very very rare then we
surely should be blessed. And I will not let all the sacrifices my
family and I have made go for a waste, I did not want my kids to see
their father give up when I have always told them never to give up. I
was even more determined to move on.

Things turned around, of all the mistakes that I made I had done one
thing right, I had really put in my best at work, nobody could do stuff
in the kitchen like I could. For most people out there this was just a
job, for me it was food in my kids bellies and the last straw of hope in
keeping my dreams alive.

I got so many appreciations and management started noticing me, My work
was perfect no matter there was someone watching over me or not. As a
matter of fact I used to perform even better when I was not supervised.
the management quickly saw this and moved the night shift supervisor to
another branch to save costs. There was no impact on the business even
though I was all alone in the kitchen all night. It was barely any time
I was made a supervisor and I had enough money now and did not have to
work 12 hours and 6 days. But I did, as my wife had stopped working coz
of her pregnancy, we took this opportunity to get her to study and get
some certifications in her line of work which were recognised in Canada.
She came out with flying colours as she was twice as smart than any
certification she sat for. She scored 100% in every damn thing.

We had two healthy little angels again, within four months she started
applying with the Canadian certifications and she got a decent job,
within a very short time her employers realised her potential and moved
her to a different role with more responsibilities and more salary as well.

She did not eat for two days until I agreed to quit
my job and stay home with my kids and take up some kind of studying
myself. The first few days after I quit I slept for 15 hours every day,
it seemed like heaven as I had not had so much sleep in many months. I
then started studying at home and taking care of the babies while my
wife worked. She was getting paid more than what we had earned
collectively so it was fine.

I finished a few certifications and also got decent job.
We both feel that we can grow in the companies that we are currently in
because of our experience and knowledge and also the effort we have put
in to get so far.

We have now moved a good two bed apartment and got ourselves a second-had Ford Mondeo, and now we can see the light at the end of the tunnel and any hope of realising our dreams.

Now let me talk about the mistakes I think I made and what I would have
done differently if I had to do this all over again.

1st Mistake -, Quitting both our jobs. My wife was working for an Indian
Company( ICICI) but I was working for a global company (HEWLETT
PACKARD). I should have tried to get a internal transfer, Global
companies do hire from within. I agree that it would not have been easy
but I am sure not as difficult as what I went through. I might have had
to go down several levels and wait for maybe a year or two which is
still a worthwhile thing to do.

If that was absolutely not possible I would  then quit my job leave my
wife and kids behind and go to Canada myself.

2, Mistake - Trying to settle down with out first getting a job. If I am
alone I can get a temporary accommodation and be more flexible to move
where ever there is opportunity, even move to different cities, with
family it is not possible. this will also keep my costs very very low.

3,Mistake - Unless you related to tourism and hospitality industry don't
go to Vancouver. Calgary is good for people in oil industry but as a
general rule of thumb there are much more jobs in Toronto that any other
place. There are many immigrants there , right, but this is not entirely
bad as the employers in Toronto are more used to the Immigrants and are
less biased compared to other places.

4, Mistake - I expected to get a great job, like the one I had back in
India right away. This does not happen with 99% of the people. You cant
just pick up from where you left unless you have some kind of Canadian
qualification or internally transferred from within your company.
As soon as you land get yourself some/any job that you can land yourself in and ensure that your monthly expenditure is less that what you earn. Yes you might have to compromise a great deal on where you live and stuff. Make sure you spend as little money as possible from your savings. Immediately get into some kind of course/certification in your line that is recognised in Canada, use your savings for that. Don't waste even one day.

Make sure once you have secured some certifications and you are looking for a job that is in your line of work. You would already have a job, however bad but a job nevertheless. All your focus should be to get a job in your line of work and not towards getting a little more money, this is because if you get to do something in your line of work you will naturally do well.

Once you have set your foot in and fairly confident its time to get your wife..... NOT KIDS, just wife. I know it can be very difficult to leave kids behind but you will have to make some sacrifices to ensure that you do it the right way.

Now that your wife is there, just get her to do some part time work focus entirely on getting Canadian qualification in her line of work.

Always remember there will be totally unexpected things that will come up ( my wife's pregnancy for example ) and make sure you have put away some money for emergencies, however little, something is better than nothing.

Only get a permanent family home when you and your wife are working, in your respective line of work and the get your kids. Things would have been a lot easier if I had done it this way rather than the way I adopted.

THE SATISFACTION YOU GET AND THE WAY YOUR SELF CONFIDENCE IS BOOSTED WILL BE WORTH ALL THE EFFORT. ONCE YOU HAVE SETTLED IN YOU WILL HAVE VERY FEW AND JUST MUNDANE THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT, LIFE IN CANADA WILL SEEM VERY ENJOYABLE THEN.

Please feel free to ask me any questions that may crop up, I wish this was helpful and God bless you all.
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« Reply #4912 on: November 21, 2009, 08:23:44 am »


 @  All Forum Members

Please read the above post that is the realistic picture for new comers in Canada. This is not to discourage any one but to make the brothers and sisters ready when they discuss that we have got golden ticket or heaven etc. Though Manj bhai have disscussed the one side of the picture but this is the other side and reality that we have to be ready for our future. May God bless us and give us the courage to manage our life in a good way and all that what we want achive in Canada.
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« Reply #4913 on: November 21, 2009, 08:25:14 am »


Please everybody to read the real story at previous page number 328 , at the bottom. OPne real and beautiful post ever.
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« Reply #4914 on: November 21, 2009, 08:26:50 am »

I am posting it again at this new page for you.



guys....this is a nice read from JOSH....let me repost it....this could be an inspiration to you guys...Godbless us all...

========================================================

Hear is my story...take the time to read it, if nothing you might at
least save a few pennies and a couple of sleepless nights.

I have been a silent viewer on this forum, I have read a lot of
arguments and I appreciate the zeal of most people. The positive
approach some people have displayed in spite of all the negative and
discouraging information is really inspiring.

I have been in Canada for over 25 months now, migrated from India, to
quickly answer some of the biting questions in your head....

1, Am I doing well---Yes I am, maybe not as good as I would have liked
it but I am happy.
2, Was I doing well back in India--- Very well.
3, Am I happy to have made the switch----No doubt about that.
4, Did I have to struggle and go through hard times----- Very very hard
times, I've had to hang on by my tooth and claws.
5, Would I do it again---Damn sure I would.
BUT
6, Would I go about it in the same way that I did----NO, This post is to
help you guys avoid the same mistake that I made
and to give something back to people like me 25 months ago, I would have
NEVER been able to do it without the help of many good hearted people,
God bless em. So here is my story......

But before that I just want to mention that I have met a lot of
immigrants, some who have done well some not so well and others worse.
The common line among all the immigrants were certain qualifications and
these are a must according to me and my experience if you have to
succeed, if you don't have these qualifications then you will be putting
yourself in deep trouble.

At the risk of sounding dreadfully dull and at a horrible effort at
instigating motivation here are the qualification you need to have:

a, Determination... If you are not absolutely determined its a waste of
time.
b, Perseverance...The heart to go on in spite of all odds, never failing
to loose the strength to take another step, NEVER NEVER give up, its
your life and you cant give up on it.
c, Hard work....Try to be the best in whatever you do, don't work hard
because you have to or because you are being watched just work hard coz
you WANT to. Even if you are polishing shoes and if you are the best in
doing that you will achieve glory someday. NOT BORN TO BE A MEDIOCRE
attitude.
d, Good Heart.... A good heart to help people in need, may not just be
financially (if that is not possible) but a kind word, a passionate hug,
an encouraging line to any fellow in need. A genuine good wish and
prayer from someone thankful can even move the Heart of GOD.

So, my story then, My God, its just starting, even I am tired already.
I'll make it short.

Got my visa after a long and painful wait...Quit our jobs, my wife and
me (first mistake, will explain later) scooped up all our savings, got
our children out of school with appropriate planning so that they don't
miss out a year. Did our lil research, said our prayers and got on the
plane. Landed in Vancouver, some website told us that this was the
worlds best place to live and raise a family (mistake number two).
Checked into the hotel and began house hunting, looked at all the nice
neighbourhoods and selected a house based on our budget (third mistake)
so far so good, we thought. Put our kids to school and began the
mammoth task of job hunting ( 25-30 days and 2000 dollars down).

Me wife and me are well qualified and based on our experiences we made
absolutely wonderful resumes and started applying ( fourth mistake).
Amazing responses, calls every day but that was that, stopped at calls
after realising we don't have any Canadian qualification or experience.
We were not too worried initially but as time passed it started to get a
little uncomfortable( down by 3 months and 4000 dollars). We then
started trying to get help and advise from the locals, mixed responses,
very conflicting as everyone were from different circumstances. We then
had to downgrade our resumes (as one of the refusal feedback was that we
were over qualified) and start applying, still luck eluded us. Every
dollar spent was like fire in the belly growing hotter. Five-six months
later we were desperate and ready to take any job that was available to
us. A month later, my wife got a job and few weeks later it was my turn
to get lucky to get a job.

These were not nearly ideal jobs that we were hoping for but some income
was better than nothing. It killed me to see my wife doing data entry
who was working for ICICI bank back in India and managing a whole branch
and had won many awards for being the best run branch , just typing away
8 hours a day. I never really had the courage to ask how she felt seeing
me flip burgers when I had 120 employees working for me at Hewlett
Packard back in India.

Though both of us were earning still we were not able to make enough
money to stop digging away from our savings. The house rent, bills,
travel to & fro to work, food and the most expensive of the lot, child
minders for our kids, to pick them up from school and take care until my
wife gets back home. I was working over time, nearly 12 hours a day but
could not sustain ourselves, we then switched our plan and I took up night shift
and weekends while my wife worked in the day, I would wake up cook and
get the kids back home and put them in front of the telly and pass out
on the couch. I was ready to leave for work and would be waiting at the
door to rush out to get the train, sometimes I must admit, with wet eyes
while walking to the train station.At all time, I tried real hard to put
a brave face for my wife and my two little angels, one kiss at the door
everyday was all the interaction I had with my wife. That and kisses
from my two little angels is what kept me going.

Even though we had figured out a way to save the child minders costs we
were just making enough to live a very limited life. My children
deserved more time from us, at least from one of us. I dint want them to
grow up without that. I forced my wife to work only part time, moved to
a smaller house, took up work for 12 hours every night, 6 days a week. I
could not miss a single days work, no work no money.
 Life seemed a little better for a while, at least for my wife and kids.

When all seemed in control ( at least better than a few months ago )
another blow (forgive me for saying that but that's what it seemed like
at that time), I was hardly with my wife a few times since we started
working and she was pregnant for the second time ( we had twins the
first time)  in spite of all the caution we had taken. The irony was, we
had to try for almost a year the first time around to get pregnant.  If
that was not all, it was twins AGAIN. The odds of that happening, twins
twice, was 10 million to one or so I was told. This was about the time
when I could sense my wife giving up. I could not imagine how we could
afford the expenses of additional two babies in our present circumstances.

To cut it short, we had to go through more hardships, we had to move
again and again until we were in what one would call a single room
apartment.

Was this what we left everything and came here?
Was this the life in Canada?
How could we have been so wrong in our assessment?
Are we losers and should go back home crawling like one?

BUT WAIT NO, I thought,

If I we had the luck of having two twins which is very very rare then we
surely should be blessed. And I will not let all the sacrifices my
family and I have made go for a waste, I did not want my kids to see
their father give up when I have always told them never to give up. I
was even more determined to move on.

Things turned around, of all the mistakes that I made I had done one
thing right, I had really put in my best at work, nobody could do stuff
in the kitchen like I could. For most people out there this was just a
job, for me it was food in my kids bellies and the last straw of hope in
keeping my dreams alive.

I got so many appreciations and management started noticing me, My work
was perfect no matter there was someone watching over me or not. As a
matter of fact I used to perform even better when I was not supervised.
the management quickly saw this and moved the night shift supervisor to
another branch to save costs. There was no impact on the business even
though I was all alone in the kitchen all night. It was barely any time
I was made a supervisor and I had enough money now and did not have to
work 12 hours and 6 days. But I did, as my wife had stopped working coz
of her pregnancy, we took this opportunity to get her to study and get
some certifications in her line of work which were recognised in Canada.
She came out with flying colours as she was twice as smart than any
certification she sat for. She scored 100% in every damn thing.

We had two healthy little angels again, within four months she started
applying with the Canadian certifications and she got a decent job,
within a very short time her employers realised her potential and moved
her to a different role with more responsibilities and more salary as well.

She did not eat for two days until I agreed to quit
my job and stay home with my kids and take up some kind of studying
myself. The first few days after I quit I slept for 15 hours every day,
it seemed like heaven as I had not had so much sleep in many months. I
then started studying at home and taking care of the babies while my
wife worked. She was getting paid more than what we had earned
collectively so it was fine.

I finished a few certifications and also got decent job.
We both feel that we can grow in the companies that we are currently in
because of our experience and knowledge and also the effort we have put
in to get so far.

We have now moved a good two bed apartment and got ourselves a second-had Ford Mondeo, and now we can see the light at the end of the tunnel and any hope of realising our dreams.

Now let me talk about the mistakes I think I made and what I would have
done differently if I had to do this all over again.

1st Mistake -, Quitting both our jobs. My wife was working for an Indian
Company( ICICI) but I was working for a global company (HEWLETT
PACKARD). I should have tried to get a internal transfer, Global
companies do hire from within. I agree that it would not have been easy
but I am sure not as difficult as what I went through. I might have had
to go down several levels and wait for maybe a year or two which is
still a worthwhile thing to do.

If that was absolutely not possible I would  then quit my job leave my
wife and kids behind and go to Canada myself.

2, Mistake - Trying to settle down with out first getting a job. If I am
alone I can get a temporary accommodation and be more flexible to move
where ever there is opportunity, even move to different cities, with
family it is not possible. this will also keep my costs very very low.

3,Mistake - Unless you related to tourism and hospitality industry don't
go to Vancouver. Calgary is good for people in oil industry but as a
general rule of thumb there are much more jobs in Toronto that any other
place. There are many immigrants there , right, but this is not entirely
bad as the employers in Toronto are more used to the Immigrants and are
less biased compared to other places.

4, Mistake - I expected to get a great job, like the one I had back in
India right away. This does not happen with 99% of the people. You cant
just pick up from where you left unless you have some kind of Canadian
qualification or internally transferred from within your company.
As soon as you land get yourself some/any job that you can land yourself in and ensure that your monthly expenditure is less that what you earn. Yes you might have to compromise a great deal on where you live and stuff. Make sure you spend as little money as possible from your savings. Immediately get into some kind of course/certification in your line that is recognised in Canada, use your savings for that. Don't waste even one day.

Make sure once you have secured some certifications and you are looking for a job that is in your line of work. You would already have a job, however bad but a job nevertheless. All your focus should be to get a job in your line of work and not towards getting a little more money, this is because if you get to do something in your line of work you will naturally do well.

Once you have set your foot in and fairly confident its time to get your wife..... NOT KIDS, just wife. I know it can be very difficult to leave kids behind but you will have to make some sacrifices to ensure that you do it the right way.

Now that your wife is there, just get her to do some part time work focus entirely on getting Canadian qualification in her line of work.

Always remember there will be totally unexpected things that will come up ( my wife's pregnancy for example ) and make sure you have put away some money for emergencies, however little, something is better than nothing.

Only get a permanent family home when you and your wife are working, in your respective line of work and the get your kids. Things would have been a lot easier if I had done it this way rather than the way I adopted.

THE SATISFACTION YOU GET AND THE WAY YOUR SELF CONFIDENCE IS BOOSTED WILL BE WORTH ALL THE EFFORT. ONCE YOU HAVE SETTLED IN YOU WILL HAVE VERY FEW AND JUST MUNDANE THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT, LIFE IN CANADA WILL SEEM VERY ENJOYABLE THEN.

Please feel free to ask me any questions that may crop up, I wish this was helpful and God bless you all.
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« Reply #4915 on: November 21, 2009, 10:49:49 am »

Every book has two sides, the one you see and off course the other side. You can will many immigrants who came to North America and were successful but many returned.... so each and everyone can make a difference but just be ready to face challenges and they can be daunting and will require lot of guts. Plan accordingly. I lived here for 9 years and extremely happy where I stand today... Best of luck to each one of you.
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« Reply #4916 on: November 21, 2009, 11:33:25 am »

Dear Seniors (specially Hotlier)

Your help needed please

I have score following bands in IELTS

Listning 6.5
Reading 5.5
Writing 5.5
Speaking 7.0

As per my calculation I will get 10 points and hence getting 66 points in total. I am also doing Basic Level (A1.1) from Alliance Francaise. My answer is that whether I can claim 1 point after completeting Basic level or i should try to improve IELTS

My other details are as under

Education : ACMA : 25 points
Language : 10 points
Experience : 21 points
Age : 33 ; 10 points

Total : 66 points

An early reply is requested

SALAM, what mistakes you  made in writing , listening and reading.
It seems that you could have obtained much better socre than you mentioned.
Well, please let me know what pitfalls you came across in ielts test.
Thank you
 
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« Reply #4917 on: November 21, 2009, 11:52:40 am »

AOA Forum members,

Anyone recieved employer verification lately? i found out tht they contacted someone from my office yesterday, who had no idea about my immigration plans.

ANYONE GOT AN IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET SOME REPLY AFTER EMPLOYER VERIFICATIONS??

Regards.
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« Reply #4918 on: November 21, 2009, 11:56:31 am »

AOA Forum members,

Anyone recieved employer verification lately? i found out tht they contacted someone from my office yesterday, who had no idea about my immigration plans.

ANYONE GOT AN IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET SOME REPLY AFTER EMPLOYER VERIFICATIONS??

Regards.

Same thing happend in my case. It took 20-25 days in my case after verification to recieve PA.
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File Transfer...: April 2011 to chc - london
Med's Request: 11-08-2011
Med's Done....: 21-08-2011
Interview........: waived i guess??
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« Reply #4919 on: November 21, 2009, 12:14:22 pm »


Same thing happend in my case. It took 20-25 days in my case after verification to recieve PA.
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Thanks hotlier bhai. If it happens then in that case i owe you a treat, as if u remember what advise you gave me while quoting your friend's example, i folllowed it and send it to them around 3 weeks back.
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