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Author Topic: Pakistan Application Forum................  (Read 2778856 times)
imhussain
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Posts: 68
Ratings: +3
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Islamabad
NOC Code......: 0111
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 28-07-2009
Doc's Request.: 27-08-2009
AOR Received.: 12-01-2010 (from CHC Isd)
File Transfer...: From CHC Isb to London June 2010 (In Process since March 2011)
Med's Request: MR received 25-02-2012 after start of processing on 20th Jan.' 12

« Reply #28005 on: February 15, 2012, 02:46:33 am »

Dear Sohail, What is your field (Civil/Electrical/etc ...) ?

I know many engineers here graduated from NED university Karachi. Few of them were lucky and got job in their field soon after landing, but most of them upgraded themselves here by doing short courses and co-ops. In co-ops, Govt gives guarantee and funds to provide 3 months training to new comers to get some industry experience. On completion, that company hires few of the good performers and others get a chance to show Canadian experience in their resume to get their first job in Canada.

Almost everyone need to go through this procedure to jump into the job market.

Hope this helps,
Regards,
Muneer


Dear Muneer !

Can you clarify if this "co-ops" option/ arrangment is only for Engineers or is for other professionals as well?

Regards,
imhussain
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cocknbull
Champion Member
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #28006 on: February 15, 2012, 03:11:26 am »

Dear Muneer !

Can you clarify if this "co-ops" option/ arrangment is only for Engineers or is for other professionals as well?

Regards,
imhussain

Hi Imhussain!

Check this thread by qorax. Very informative and helpful for Engineers. Thanks

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t37451.0.html


Foreign Qualified' Engineers in Canada –What to do???
(Some concrete Steps to make you Street Smart)

Barriers to foreign entry are common among the Regulated Professions in Canada like Medicine, Law, Finance & Accounts, Engineering etc. This is a fact of our life & cannot be avoided... not until some drastic policy changes happen. Governmental intervention plans are many in place, but till today the market doesn't reflect any better.

Foreign-trained Engineers who arrive in Canada with high hopes, only to have their careers derailed, have genuine reasons to crib. Ms. Marie Lemay, CEO of the CCPE (Canadian Council of Professional Engineers) said that, foreign-trained engineers have been caught in a Catch-22 situation, unable to find permanent employment because they had no domestic work experience and unable to get that experience because their degrees had no currency with Canadian employers.

The situation is:
"To get that work experience, you have to get a job, but to get the job you have to either have that work experience OR employers value your credentials [degrees & experience], which is not forthcoming".  <Catch-22, you bet !

Startling Facts : Under-Utilization of Engineers
• Yearly engineering supply from all sources has grown by a factor of three, and immigration into the engineering profession has increased by a factor of twelve, in a decade in which net jobs and economic growth in Canada has been less than 20%
• More than 75% of all skilled workers immigrating to Canada who intend to work in a regulated profession are engineers: this includes the total of all doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses, veterinarians, optometrists, accountants...
• A popular trend shows immigrant engineers, though well qualified, but is excluded from the workforce because his credentials are not recognized.
• Some senior engineers and engineering educators consider engineering to be the “new liberal arts education”, and have no expectation that engineering graduates should have the opportunity to work as engineers if they so choose! This attitude is not marginal- it is surprisingly widespread!
• Recent surveys have indicated that a large fraction of working engineers consider themselves to be “overqualified for the work they do”; and that about 75% of professional engineers have no defined area of work. A large fraction of engineers are not engaged in the practice of engineering as conventionally defined.
• We still hear reports of localized shortages of engineers. Why? Because some firms insist on hiring people with Canadian experience to fill certain positions that is actually entry level. And other firms wouldn't hire at the entry level with foreign-qualified engineers.  

Concrete Steps we should take to Combat the above
• If you are a new immigrant, first & foremost get your ‘foreign' credentials assessed within Canada (details below [1]).
• Secondly, obtain memberships / certifications of Canadian bodies / institutes / associations (details below [2]).
• Thirdly, get yourselves ‘re-trained' from Canadian Universities / Institutions. Most, if not all universities have engineering faculties.
• Fourthly, by the time you endorse into an engineering degree program, get that certification, for sure, as mentioned in point-2 above.
• Fifthly, if you are a recent graduate of an engineering program, or you have an ‘overseas engineering education and have been unable to find suitable work as an engineer, contact your university, accredition body, professional licensing body, and let them ‘know' that you exist! Network & gather all your colleagues, peers, friends, who are in the same situation and write/approach ‘jointly' to these bodies for assistance!

[1] Engineering International- Education Assessment Program
While it is not part of licensing, the Engineering International-Education Assessment Program assesses the educational qualifications of individuals who were educated and trained outside of Canada by comparing their education to a Canadian engineering education. The assessment provides applicants with valuable information on how their foreign education compares to a Canadian engineering education. Few of the agencies to approach are:

1. Canadian Council of Professional Engineers (CCPE)
http://www.engineerscanada.ca/e/pr_international_ieg_3.cfm
2. Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board (CEAB)
http://www.accreditation.org/accbodies.php?page=canada

[2] Memberships / Certifications from Engineering Bodies
Similar to a driver's permit, the memberships/certifications, will instantly qualify immigrants to work in an “apprenticeship capacity” as they pursue their supplementary training [Canadian re-training] toward a permanent placement. Some of the organizations you can approach are:

1. Professional Engineers Ontario licenses [PEO]
 http://www.peo.on.ca/
2. The Council for Access to the Profession of Engineering [CAPE]
http://capeinfo.ca/
3. Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists & Geophysicists of Alberta [APEGGA]
http://www.apegga.org/applicants/ieg/overview.html

REFERENCE READING:
Barriers to ‘Foreign Trained' Engineers...
http://www.geography.ryerson.ca/hbauder/Immigrant%20Labour/immigrant_credentials.pdf
...
Hope the foregoing helps my engineer friends !
Qorax
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mary83
Star Member
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Posts: 114
Ratings: +2

« Reply #28007 on: February 15, 2012, 04:27:14 am »

Dear members

How we can send any document to London office?
Through courier or any other medium?

Sending any additional document without their demand will slow down the case

or not? Any suggestions plz.

Also i want to know the address or email.

Thanks
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cocknbull
Champion Member
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #28008 on: February 15, 2012, 04:34:45 am »

Dear members

How we can send any document to London office?
Through courier or any other medium?

Sending any additional document without their demand will slow down the case

or not? Any suggestions plz.

Also i want to know the address or email.

Thanks

If you want to send employment contract that must be sent as a hard copy and preferably by courier so you can get the confirmation by courier.

It wont slow down your case.

Their mailing address is

Canadian High Commission
Immigration Division
38 Grosvenor Street
London
W1K 4AA
UK

In case for any queries their email is london-im-enquiry @ international.gc.ca

Thanks
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darian
Star Member
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Posts: 155
Ratings: +1
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Isd transferred to London
NOC Code......: 1111
App. Filed.......: July 2009
IELTS Request: Submitted with full application Dec 09 with band 7
File Transfer...: 30 June 2010
Med's Request: 15 Oct 2012
Med's Done....: 18 Oct 2012
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PR1 28 Oct 12 ..... Sent on 30 Oct 12 ..... Decision Made 19 Nov 12 .... PR2. 21 Nov 12

« Reply #28009 on: February 15, 2012, 05:23:22 am »

Dear Staralihaider / Seniors,

Yesterday i received email from London office requesting following documents within 60 days;

- New Schedule A/Background Declaration form
- Updated Police Certificates for me & dependent over 18
- Proof of settlement funds.

It also states to provide "explanation regarding any large deposits" 

But much awaited Medical has not been received moreover no change on my Ecas.

Please advise where i stand now? Should i expect MR prior or after submitting updated docs?

My timeline is as under;

Initial application for permanent residence on July 7, 2009.
Received recommendation on September 1, 2009.
Full application submitted to Islamabad office on December 22, 2009
Application transferred to the London England office on June 30, 2010


My case changed to "In Process" on March 31, 2011 and applied under 0111.
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mary83
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Posts: 114
Ratings: +2

« Reply #28010 on: February 15, 2012, 05:29:51 am »

If you want to send employment contract that must be sent as a hard copy and preferably by courier so you can get the confirmation by courier.

It wont slow down your case.

Their mailing address is

Canadian High Commission
Immigration Division
38 Grosvenor Street
London
W1K 4AA
UK

In case for any queries their email is london-im-enquiry  @  international.gc.ca

Thanks

Thank you sir
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saaansa
Star Member
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Posts: 79
Ratings: +1

« Reply #28011 on: February 15, 2012, 05:31:07 am »

Dear Staralihaider / Seniors,

Yesterday i received email from London office requesting following documents within 60 days;

- New Schedule A/Background Declaration form
- Updated Police Certificates for me & dependent over 18
- Proof of settlement funds.

It also states to provide "explanation regarding any large deposits" 

But much awaited Medical has not been received moreover no change on my Ecas.

Please advise where i stand now? Should i expect MR prior or after submitting updated docs?

My timeline is as under;

Initial application for permanent residence on July 7, 2009.
Received recommendation on September 1, 2009.
Full application submitted to Islamabad office on December 22, 2009
Application transferred to the London England office on June 30, 2010


My case changed to "In Process" on March 31, 2011 and applied under 0111.
Hi, you should submit the document as early possible, after the document...inshallah you will get medical....
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ammarhasan
Member
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Posts: 10
Ratings: +0
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0213
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 31 May , 2010
Doc's Request.: 18 Oct, 2010
AOR Received.: June 2011
IELTS Request: Sent wid App

« Reply #28012 on: February 15, 2012, 06:01:17 am »

Dear forum members !

I am Dec 2009 applicant and they started processing on my application on 20th Jan, 2012. As I observed that from the starting of processing the people are getting medicals OR request for additional documents within 10-15 days, but in may case I did not yet receive any letter.

Its worrying me. Should I write a mail to CHC London ? What do you people suggest/ advise.

Will be obliged for members' kind time.





Call TCS also and track any package they are having/ moving with your name   Roll Eyes    Wink
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cocknbull
Champion Member
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #28013 on: February 15, 2012, 07:15:04 am »

Dear forum members !

I am Dec 2009 applicant and they started processing on my application on 20th Jan, 2012. As I observed that from the starting of processing the people are getting medicals OR request for additional documents within 10-15 days, but in may case I did not yet receive any letter.

Its worrying me. Should I write a mail to CHC London ? What do you people suggest/ advise.

Will be obliged for members' kind time.

Hi!

Its not true for every one's case. Neveed1 received medicals when he remained in process for 3 months. I am also in process since 9 jan 2012 and nothing yet. I also know other people who have been in process for almost an year and no come out yet.

Just wait and relax.

Thanks
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cheeta37
Hero Member
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Posts: 529
Ratings: +9
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: CHC ISLAMABAD → CHC LONDON
NOC Code......: 0111
App. Filed.......: 04-06-2009
Doc's Request.: 05-08-2009
AOR Received.: 05-08-2009
File Transfer...: Islamabad 05-08-2009 → London 30-06-2010

« Reply #28014 on: February 15, 2012, 08:03:50 am »

Jago CHC Jago Cry
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darian
Star Member
****

Posts: 155
Ratings: +1
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Isd transferred to London
NOC Code......: 1111
App. Filed.......: July 2009
IELTS Request: Submitted with full application Dec 09 with band 7
File Transfer...: 30 June 2010
Med's Request: 15 Oct 2012
Med's Done....: 18 Oct 2012
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PR1 28 Oct 12 ..... Sent on 30 Oct 12 ..... Decision Made 19 Nov 12 .... PR2. 21 Nov 12

« Reply #28015 on: February 15, 2012, 08:13:06 am »

Hi, you should submit the document as early possible, after the document...inshallah you will get medical....

Thanx saaansa waiting for more replies.....
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mmiq
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 465
Ratings: +12
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: LONDON
NOC Code......: 0111 F/Manager
App. Filed.......: 06-04-2009
VISA ISSUED...: 01/11/12
LANDED..........: FEB,2013

« Reply #28016 on: February 15, 2012, 08:15:05 am »

Dear Staralihaider / Seniors,

Yesterday i received email from London office requesting following documents within 60 days;

- New Schedule A/Background Declaration form
- Updated Police Certificates for me & dependent over 18
- Proof of settlement funds.

It also states to provide "explanation regarding any large deposits"  

But much awaited Medical has not been received moreover no change on my Ecas.

Please advise where i stand now? Should i expect MR prior or after submitting updated docs?

My timeline is as under;

Initial application for permanent residence on July 7, 2009.
Received recommendation on September 1, 2009.
Full application submitted to Islamabad office on December 22, 2009
Application transferred to the London England office on June 30, 2010


My case changed to "In Process" on March 31, 2011 and applied under 0111.
dont worry
its  a sign that your medical request is under process
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khawaja01
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Posts: 8
Ratings: +0

« Reply #28017 on: February 15, 2012, 08:32:21 am »

Could anybody please help me regarding understanding points I could get for my education. Particulars are:

1- Matriculation (16 years)
2- Intermediate (2 years)
3- CAT qualified (1 year)
4- ACCA member (3 1/2 years)
5- Recently converted my ACCA membership to CGA membership so now, I am a CGA member as well.
6- B.Sc (hons.) Oxford Brookes university (converted degree).
7- M.Com from Pakistan (Also a converted degree from HEC, I got it on the basis of my ACCA membership, I didn't study it)

So, will I get 22 points or 25?
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S.K
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Posts: 1088
Ratings: +35
LANDED..........: 05-08-2011

« Reply #28018 on: February 15, 2012, 09:57:06 am »

22
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khawaja01
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Posts: 8
Ratings: +0

« Reply #28019 on: February 15, 2012, 10:20:39 am »

Could anybody please help me regarding understanding points I could get for my education. Particulars are:

1- Matriculation (16 years)
2- Intermediate (2 years)
3- CAT qualified (1 year)
4- ACCA member (3 1/2 years)
5- Recently converted my ACCA membership to CGA membership so now, I am a CGA member as well.
6- B.Sc (hons.) Oxford Brookes university (converted degree).
7- M.Com from Pakistan (Also a converted degree from HEC, I got it on the basis of my ACCA membership, I didn't study it)

So, will I get 22 points or 25?
Sorry to write 16 years instead of 10 years against my matriculation.
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