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Author Topic: NOC 1311 or 1431 ???  (Read 304 times)
jimmyf
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« on: February 10, 2012, 03:17:35 pm »

Can someone tell me what are the main difference between a Bookkeeper(1311) and a Accounting Clerk(1431)?
I just got a reference letter from my employer, but both 1311 and 1431 duties have included in my letter. I check the hrsdc for both duties, but both titles looks like doing the same thing, does someone know what is the major difference? Thx!!!
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 04:53:57 pm »

you mean, besides the fact that one qualifies (1311), and one does not (1431)?   Smiley

From the NOC descriptions, a Bookkeeper works at a higher level - to claim 1311 most of your responsibilities would have to be simliar to NOC 1311 -

1311
Accounting technicians and bookkeepers maintain complete sets of books, keep records of accounts, verify the procedures used for recording financial transactions, and provide personal bookkeeping services. They are employed throughout the private and public sectors, or they may be self-employed.  Main duties:
    Keep financial records and establish, maintain and balance various accounts using manual and computerized bookkeeping systems
    Post journal entries and reconcile accounts, prepare trial balance of books, maintain general ledgers and prepare financial statements
    Calculate and prepare cheques for payrolls and for utility, tax and other bills
    Complete and submit tax remittance forms, workers' compensation forms, pension contribution forms and other government documents
    Prepare tax returns and perform other personal bookkeeping services
    Prepare other statistical, financial and accounting reports.


1431
1Accounting and related clerks calculate, prepare and process bills, invoices, accounts payable and receivable, budgets and other financial records according to established procedures. They are employed throughout the private and public sectors.  Main duties:
    Calculate, prepare and issue documents related to accounts such as bills, invoices, inventory reports, account statements and other financial statements using computerized and manual systems
    Code, total, batch, enter, verify and reconcile transactions such as accounts payable and receivable, payroll, purchase orders, cheques, invoices, cheque requisitions, and bank statements in a ledger or computer system
    Compile budget data and documents based on estimated revenues and expenses and previous budgets
    Prepare period or cost statements or reports
    Calculate costs of materials, overhead and other expenses based on estimates, quotations, and price lists
    Respond to customer inquiries, maintain good customer relations and solve problems
    Perform related clerical duties, such as word processing, maintaining filing and record systems, faxing and photocopying.

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 05:14:39 pm »

Thanks Jes_ON!
But my question is, the duties in my reference letter, 60% are belong to 1311, 30% are belong to 1431, and there are even 10% belong to the Payroll Clerk. Since I am working in a small company, I almost do all the accounting jobs. Is my reference letter gonna be a problem? Is that possible that CIC classify my real title is 1431?
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 09:11:39 pm »

the letter of employment should clearly indicate main duties that are consistent with 1311 (to receive credit for that). 

Yes, it is possible that CIC would think you are doing the "unskilled" job, unless the letter is very clear...
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 02:41:14 pm »

I think you will be just fine. Since you cover all the accounting functions in the company, you will just need to list them all and give the priority and emphasis on the "B" NOC! 2-3 lines mentioning about the low skills will not disprove you at all. G'luck!
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 02:48:28 pm »

Thanks all!
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